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Gameperson700
July 10, 2020
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Title Feminist logic
Author Gameperson700
Upvotes 540
Comments 51
Date 10 July 2020 02:54 AM UTC (10 months ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/709728
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/hoh54u/feminist_logic/
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[–]Grtrshop105 points106 points  (23 children) | Copy

Feminism literally has no place in the west anymore, they aren't oppressed in any way and if anything have way more rights then men, 60% lighter sentences, maternal leave, and at this point they are getting promotions just for forced diversity. Maybe if they got off their ass and actually did something they would help out the women who actually needed it like India and the middle east, but they can't admit that those countries oppress women because it's not politically correct

[–]TheDerp4206948 points49 points  (5 children) | Copy

I am from India and I can say that what you had said is true here too except that girls are actually oppressed in some rural areas

[–]Grtrshop13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

I thought it was a nationwide problem, the child marriages to old men, sexual assault, and abuse

[–]ArnavChalla20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not at all nationwide. In devoloped city area none of that is there. What you're talking about happens in very very rural areas only.

[–]masterdarthrevan5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Did u not hear about the group of Indian women who wear pink and carry canes? If there is an indiscretion against a woman they all show up and beat up the man with their canes

[–]Grtrshop-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I thought that was mostly a joke

[–]OnlyOneIronMan8886 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think those practices are more dominant in Arab countries

[–]Yomyusernameiscool20 points21 points  (5 children) | Copy

Even in india laws are in favour of women, the rural areas need correction of some women oppressing issues, but the laws meant for women's protection are misused heavily in india with almost 53% of filed rape cases in india being fake. Further, in Indian law women can't rape or be punished for infedility, so things are screwed to an extent here too.

[–]Grtrshop14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

The same rape laws are in the US and UK, they come from feminists that insist women can't rape it's just "forced penetration" and get a much lesser charge of sexual assault at the most. If you sue for infidelity nothing will really happen unless if they plead guilty and only around 5% of rape accusations are fake in the US. So it's screwed everywhere, in the US it's common culture for men working in offices and schools to never be alone with a woman because they could scream sexual assault or rape and their career would be instantly ruined

[–]Yomyusernameiscool11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

Except india has laws other than rape laws and divorce laws that a married woman can use to legally screw her husband and inlaws . And rape allegation in india, if i am not wrong is a non bailable offence even for the allegation, and you will be released only if you are proved innocent.

I could name 5 laws that are being misused by women for selfish reasons and destroying lives.

[–]Grtrshop8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Damn that's fucked, so you're saying that except in rural areas women have a lot of ways to fuck over their husbands or any man with no proof?

[–]Yomyusernameiscool9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup .. Lot of ways. And most of these legal devices are non bailable offences for the men .

The staggering difference between rural and urban India astonishes me. In rural areas you will feel the light patriarchy like women having to cook, men farming (the usual patriarchy in a farming society), but it is so starkly flipped in the urban areas it is unbelievable.

[–]Jaktenba0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

only around 5% of rape accusations are fake in the US.

Just going to have to correct you here. I'll assume you have the right percentage, but this is only the cases that have been PROVEN false. On the flip side, the number of cases that lead to conviction are about the same percentage. This leaves an enormous grey area of cases that had to be dropped because they couldn't be proven one way or the other. It is very likely that at least some of those cases will be false, so the number is likely much more.

[–]theindigodot-3 points-2 points  (10 children) | Copy

Well the reason it is worse for women in developing countries is because of us in the western using these people, putting them in low paying jobs with bad conditions to pay for our clothes. Kidnapping poor women and men (women at a double rate) and bringing them into human trafficking in the west. So we can't just "help those in India" we need to get to the root of the problem.

[–]Grtrshop4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy

Human trafficking in the west? Bro what the hell are you talking about, this isn't the fucking slave trade. It's developing countries experience rough period before they become developed from being a source of cheap labor. Literally every country went through this.

[–]theindigodot-1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy

They do bring a lot of people to the west, but of course, a lot of people from the west simply stays in the developing countries for the amount of time they need to get what they want (sex, slave work, babies etc.)

[–]Grtrshop3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

You sound stupid, so white people are going to the middle east. Stealing babies. And buying slaves. And raping people. Do you know how dumb you sound rn

[–]theindigodot0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Not necessarily the middle East. It's wide spread in Asia, especially Pakistan, South Korea, China, Thailand and more. It's targeting people in Eastern Europe, Africa and probably South America.

Also, it's not stealing babies, it is using women as surrogates because it is much cheaper than in the US etc, to get white babies. Then paying the people organising the spectacle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking

Some good movies on the matter are

Lilja 4-ever, Outsourcing embryos (vice documentary), Sex trafficking in america

[–]Grtrshop1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

You are making a issue out of something that doesn't matter, there are literally 9 million slaves in Africa right now and surrogate babies are at the top of your priority list

[–]theindigodot0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I literally pointed out human trafficking/ slave trade in Africa too was a problem. Also, the surrogate industry in India consists of billions of dollars and 3000 active clinics, making it too an important issue.

But why would you say one inhuman way of treating people in one place is suddenly more important than another?

[–]Grtrshop-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Surrogate babies are completely moral. You can't compare having a baby for someone who can't to being enslaved. Let me repeat. Surrogate baby. Enslaved. There's a big difference. It's much more important when one is a service to people and one is owning people. Let me repeat one more time. Being a surrogate mother is helping people who couldn't have a baby. Being a slave is one of the worst things in the world.

[–]theindigodot1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

But you don't think there's a reason people travel all the way from the US, or a European country where it's allowed, to India, for the service? You think it's because the women in India are treated better? No, because it is cheaper and less paper work. And how can it be cheap? By exploiting already poor people who can't read and therefore can't demand rights.

Some surrogate mothers could of course be treated well, but some slaves could, too be treated well in comparison to other surrogate mothers and slaves. That does not mean they're treated right. And those exceptions should also not be a reason to discard the problem.

[–]RoffeDH8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, rape apologist logic.

It's clearly irony to show how stupid "if she didn't want to be raped she shouldn't have dressed like that" logic is

[–]Rektangulus21 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy

Sounds a lot like the creepy don’t dress slutty argument 😬😬😬

[–]Gameperson700[S] 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah that's what it's supposed to sound like.

[–]Rektangulus9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Mmm love when they can make jokes but I can’t

[–]Conconninja18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

Weird how literally nobody had a problem with them being up before this whole blm thing

[–]Ast0rath4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

i think that quite a few people had problems with them yes

[–]Conconninja5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

That makes it even more weird that nobody talked about it or tried to protest it. This whole blm thing is just an excuse for the rioters to destroy stuff. I don’t know how we haven’t accepted the fact that all lives matter

[–]CosmoaicComputer6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

what

[–]Oceanfell5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Oh I'm sorry, I never knew statues could change clothes.

[–]sanrio-sugarplum0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

It's a joke. A bad joke, but still

[–]Oceanfell0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

My comment or their post?

[–]sanrio-sugarplum1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Their post. It's supposed to be like when guys justify rape because the girl dressed slutty or whatever

[–]tedbaz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Everyone in that thread needs to get their heads checked ASAP lmao

[–]bluejburgers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Rules for thee, not for me.

But also fuck the confederacy

[–]PolesWithGoals0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe if the people tearing them down weren’t gullible retards we wouldn’t be having this convo

[–]Silencio000 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What feminism has to do with racism?

[–]Gameperson700[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Intersectional feminism. There’s actually a thing called white feminism. Yeah...

[–]Zhiira0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Visible confusion

[–]Disorganized_Closet0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Totally doesn’t have to do with their ideologies. I’m against the tearing down of statues.

[–]Gameperson700[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Me too.

[–]Nielsen3160 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No they have point.

[–][deleted]  (2 children) | Copy

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[–]Thatsal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s not

[–]Gameperson700[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’re forgetting that feminism doesn’t have a clear goal now. Everything is a feminist issue.



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