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Lets put men in jail without any proof

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July 7, 2020
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Title Lets put men in jail without any proof
Author TheDerp42069
Upvotes 607
Comments 52
Date 07 July 2020 05:30 AM UTC (1 month ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/709733
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/hmojyw/lets_put_men_in_jail_without_any_proof/
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[–]UchihaZuko96 points97 points  (1 child) | Copy

"You trust the court process and need proof"

Umm bish, yes..?!

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

I read that and I was just stunned, I honestly can't believe somebody actually said that

[–]virtualwar12345[🍰] 37 points38 points  (0 children) | Copy

What does racial discrimination have to do with women

They always want to make every problem about them don't they

[–]ReddditmodsRtrash82 points83 points  (30 children) | Copy

I got a better idea.

Assume any woman without proof is lying. Period.

[–]SelahattinOzdemir26 points27 points  (4 children) | Copy

I got an even better idea but it's too based to be written on reddit

[–]AndrewLewer12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Based

[–]Npc528474714 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

King moment. Wholeheartedly support you

[–]NeoKiume1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reddit?!? Nahhhhh

[–]AndrewLewer13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

Assume any woman without proof is lying. Period.

FTFY

[–]Noesk1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

And this is how people against the feminist movement ended up being considered woman hatersand why pur opinions are discarded on account of usebeing "misogynistic woman haters"

The true FTFY should be:

Assume any woman human without proof is lying

[–]ReddditmodsRtrash1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Assume any woman human without proof is lying

Sure, that's a legitimate point. Except it not really men who go around lying about being sexually assaulted, is it? Its almost exclusively a female sourced accusation.

[–]Noesk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

True. But for real tho. Don't believe peoe without proof. Male or female. There is 1000% something where predominantly males lie about but wich doesn't have coverage since it is less interesting.

[–]ReddditmodsRtrash0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Assume any woman without proof is lying. Period.

I don't agree with that.

[–]Bigbog545 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

Do not believe anything that has periods, anything that bleeds every month and doesn’t die cannot be trusted...

[–]Certain-Moose10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

Lol, I hope this is satire. I always like to assume both sides are innocent, the woman is telling the truth, and the man didn’t do it. It’s the most fair way

[–]Deathbysugar20202 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't assume both sides are innocent. Assume nothing, be skeptical. Either could be telling the truth, either could be lying.

[–]Certain-Moose1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

True, but if the law worked the way I described, we would have far fewer cases of innocents being out in prison.

[–]ReddditmodsRtrash1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, its not fair to assume that both parties are equally innocent because that assumes that both parties are both equally plausible in being guilty.

For the woman, that means you are assuming it's plausible she is a liar.

For the man, that means you are assuming it's plausible THAT HE IS A FUCKING RAPIST.

It's far more negative to the MAN to assume he's a plausible rapist, than to assume the woman is a plausible liar.

So no, I WILL NOT GO AROUND assuming every accused man plausibly committed a grievous crime just because somebody said so. Unless there is ABSOLUTE PROOF, then he does not deserve that kind of extreme negative speculation against his character.

[–]Certain-Moose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Liars and rapists in this case are equally bad. A liar is literally lying about a serious crime to put innocent men in changes or even be hung because of her malicious intentions. Innocent men commit suicide because of charges like this, and it can tear apart whole families. Because of liars, real survivors are having a hard time being believed. This person is just as bad as a rapist. I actually assume both the accused and accuser are not doing either of these crimes. Because you’re right, it is unfair to make such negative speculations against people like that. The only time I would assume either did any crime is if there is absolute proof.

BTW, I think the identities should be kept private until one side is proven guilty, and any side trying to spread their identities should be punished.

[–]mygstacy0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy

How about dont assume anything and judge based off the evidence. If theres no evidence or witnesses obviously the man shouldnt be charged but dont call the woman a liar. False accusations is also a crime and also needs proof so without any evidence of rape or evidence the womans lying you should remain neutral. Also bear in mind that false accusations are very uncommon so statistically it is more likely she's telling the truth.

[–]ReddditmodsRtrash0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

No, its not fair to assume that both parties are equally innocent because that assumes that both parties are both equally plausible in being guilty.

For the woman, that means you are assuming it's plausible she is a liar.

For the man, that means you are assuming it's plausible THAT HE IS A FUCKING RAPIST.

It's far more negative to the MAN to assume he's a plausible rapist, than to assume the woman is a plausible liar.

So no, I WILL NOT GO AROUND assuming every accused man plausibly committed a grievous crime just because somebody said so. Unless there is ABSOLUTE PROOF, then he does not deserve that kind of extreme negative speculation against his character.

False accusations are only statistically unlikely in terms of lawsuits. Since without proof, there is no case to be made.

It terms of women talking shit, it happens all the time. Just look at what just happened to Angry Joe from some stupid attention whore. .

[–]mygstacy0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy

You cant use one guy as an example of false accusations happening all the time. I believe in being innocent until proven guilty so i dont believe in calling men rapists without proof obviously. If someones accused of commiting a crime of course im gonna assume its plausible they committed that crime. Im not gonna call someone a rapist without proof but im also not gonna call someone a liar for accusing someone of being a rapist without proof. If theres no evidence theyre assumed not guilty that doesnt mean im gonna accuse the woman of lying i dont see how that would do any good.

[–]ReddditmodsRtrash0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy

If someones accused of commiting a crime of course im gonna assume its plausible they committed that crime.

Lying is something human beings do all the time. Rape is not.

I am going to assume the person without proof, saying that the most uncommon type of behavior that occurred, is more likely to be engaging in the common type of behavior humans engaged in (lying) unless there is proof otherwise.

I'm not going to put one iota of doubt on a man's innocence without proof. People don't deserve to be considered to be potentially plausible of heinous crimes, an assault against their character, without proof.

Suggesting that someone plausibly is capable of such a crime, is defamation in and of itself and men don't deserve socially pervasive defamation because of a false accusation.

[–]mygstacy0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

Well according to the statistics raping someone is more common than lying about rape. Humans lie all the time but they dont lie about being raped all the time. 90% of the time girls dont even accuse guys of raping them when they actually rape them.

[–]ReddditmodsRtrash0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Maybe they do, maybe they don't. I'm not inclined to believe somebody isn't lying unless their is a consequences for lying and there is no consequence for women who lie about being raped. A man can lose everything, a woman who lies about being raped just looks like a bitch. She doesn't lose her job, her ability to date, she isn't put on a registry and she isn't charged a massive fine or put in jail.

When a lying woman can do the same kind of jail time that a man can get for being false accused, then I'll be more inclined to believe the probability of accusations being truthfully claimed. Not before.

[–]mygstacy0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

I dont think you can compare false accusations and rape. Of course it happens but its very uncommon. False rape accusations are illegal just like any false accusations. I dont know how many women actually get convicted but the conviction rate for rapists is also very low. Even if a man does get falsely accused its unlikely he'll do jail time. I think the fact that it's unlikely a man will do jail time for actually raping someone is a bigger issue than false accusations i dont see how you're comparing these issues when ones statistically so much bigger than the other.

[–]ReddditmodsRtrash0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Even if a man does get falsely accused its unlikely he'll do jail time.

Fucking wow, you're full blown retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CXtTS8klPU

no woman ever goes to jail for false accusation while men can spend 1/3rd of their life, of their PRIME, behind bars for it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_rape#:~:text=Prison%20sentences%20for%20rape%20are,time%20served%20was%205.4%20years.

Prison sentences for rape are not uniform. A study made by the U.S. Department of Justice of prison releases in 1992, involving about 80 percent of the prison population, found that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 9.8 years, while the actual time served was 5.4 years.

people like you are the reasons prenuptual agreements need to be mandatory

i think that women can and do just accuse men of rape/sexual harassment without facing significant fines or jail time is the larger issue than people who can't be bothered to get off their ass and get to the local station to file a police report

[–]mygstacy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Are you fucking serious? Youre calling girls lazy for not reporting rape?

[–]mygstacy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Im not denying false accusations is a problem im saying rape is a bigger problem

[–]mygstacy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You know as a man youre more likely to get raped by another man than falsely accused by a woman

[–]weedfarm2319 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lets put women go jail without any proof

[–]PineappleWithSmallPP8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oml guys women never lie!1!1!1!!!!! If a woman says she has been raped, she was!!!1!1!1! No proof is needed because obviously they can’t ever lie!1!1!!!!!

[–]akihonj21 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy

She does have a point though, so many people saying defund the police, abolish the police are often the same people who when accused or in trouble want the police investigate.

[–]AxiomQ16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sheep and bandwagoning fools often end up contradicting themselves, it comes with the territory of not thinking for yourself and having the balls to voice your own thoughts even if they go against the grain. That said social media, especially reddit, can be extremely echo chambery and so when an opposing comment is made it is not brought to the top and will be shouted down by those that do see it. Even within the subreddit, if someone were to oppose a post made, even if they brought a valid point or different perspective, if enough people didn't like what they saw it would get folded up down at the bottom of the thread.

[–]Certain-Moose0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What should we do then? Have kangaroo courts that fire the accused from their job and jail them only to find they were innocent months later? The police shouldn’t release the accused person’s name or picture unless a guilty verdict is decided.

[–]akihonj0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't care what you do, the system is screwed anyway, do what you wish, you have to live it afterwards.

[–]Drayelya6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

483k mental retards liked that tweet...

[–]Colombian-mra8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lol twitter is worst than tumblr, twitter where mental retardation is intelectualism

[–]Drayelya2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Makes my brain hurt thinking about it honestly.

[–]robo_oof1011 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tumblr is a paradise for radical feminist and liberals, and sadly Twitter is becoming the same thing.

[–]sanrio-sugarplum2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Who is she talking to? The people who hate cops are the same people who are #BelieveAllWomen

[–]mrkeifer862 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amber heard started out as a victim. Her and Johnny depps case (trust me I know there have been more before him) should serve as why there should be evidence. Period.

[–]chambertlo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Excuse us for needing proof and evidence before we sentence an potentially innocent person to prison.

[–]Silencio000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah because they're the same thing.

[–]Colombian-mra0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She is completely comparing 2 different groups, those BLMs are big opposers to do due process

[–]robo_oof1010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's this thing called "presumption of innocence" and basically it makes it so that anyone that is accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty.

[–]rodogg340 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

She is lost..you know how many false reports women claim😅

[–]mygstacy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, hardly any compared to true accusations. Look up the statistics.



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