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Title Feminist noises
Author Unknownman2029
Upvotes 178
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Date 20 May 2020 08:13 AM UTC (6 months ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/709931
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/gn7ecg/feminist_noises/
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[–]akihonj23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy

You know what gets me every time I see these images, at the time these people really thought they were doing something good, and being passionate about something, albeit stupid inconsequential issues, and years later finding they've been turned into a meme that shows how ridiculous they were all along and probably still are.

[–]Mr_Volkstaat5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's the beauty of it.

[–]akihonj5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I really need to print off the two bottom images and set up dating profiles with them. Just for shits and giggles

[–]mellainadiba7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Killing a woman is not misogny even if a misogynst does it unless the actual specific motivation at that moment of time was misgony. Exact same with killing a man. Who knows this could have been that attack but I havent seen anything from a quick look to suggest this. So why do feminist push this agenda, even though the ones at the top know this isn't true? Well basically money. You, on the other hand are a low rung feminists so you actually believe this as your a puppet of feminist higher up. Feminism 101

  1. Take an issue that affects both sexes
  2. Ignore the men and play it as a WOMEN ONLY problem.
  3. Project it as a problem that affects all women.
  4. Blame men and/or patriarchy and/or toxic masculinity and make sure women are not seen as part of the problem.
  5. Legislate gendered laws and policies (but gendered ONLY towards women)
  6. Publicise the problem as if it is everywhere and thereby persuade the government to hand over vast amounts of funding.
  7. Advertise for "victims." / academic fraud - more numbers = more funding. Shelters/ hotlines/ centres/ gendered laws are all good... trying to solve the problem so no more victims... NO NO NO!

above steps 1-7 = MONEY + POWER

What does this lead to? Well the CEO of refuge is on 500,000 with benifits and expenses and has 200 staff... no they make up stats and ACTIVELY campaign to reduce male DV... its all about money... dont get me wrong this is all of chairty not just feminsim. And it works, this false female narrative means feminist and women get 98.3% of government funding. They dont even believe their narrative it just self interest money at the end of the day

this fake feminist issue = book sales, courses, NGOs created, jobs created, courses, pointless PHD's and courses for femnists. The political parties go along as women are simply pawns for votes. We have seen it with Biden, feminits at the top and the party dont care about women.... maybe the feminsit skivvys like you do, but the top don't. Biden is even hilarously supporting Title IX - he doesnt care, itss just do all it takes for female vote. Feminism itself only exists with the permission of capitalist elites who love it... feminism is pushing for women to have less children, increased cheap labor force, have made 2 working parents necessary, agreebale non ambitious women usualy feminise a profession and lower average salaries.... feminism is capitalist bitch

So sorry ittle femnist at the bottom... you got played.. every good idealogy needs sucker and pawns. Mayve this is how you got recruited. Poor girl (they have serpate stratgey for men and LGBT):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROsXfwTaVaM

Example in action - Domestic Violence:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Egalitarianism/comments/gec8io/highly_informative_we_urgently_need_to_reform_the/

This is how they got 98.3% of all funding women only and why when men called the police saying theyd been beaten they were arrested! This is the model they created:

"When women use violence in an intimate relationship, the circumstances of that violence tend to differ from when men use violence. Men’s use of violence against women is learned and reinforced through many social, cultural and institutional experiences. Women’s use of violence does not have the same kind of societal support. Many women who do use violence against their male partners are being battered. Their violence is used primarily to respond to and resist the violence used against them. On the societal level, women’s violence against men has a trivial effect on men compared to the devastating effect of men’s violence against women."

Lets see what the data ACTUALLY shows:

70% of non reciprocal i.e. one way only domestic violence is by female perpetrators

The first part of this article summarizes results from more than 200 studies that have found gender symmetry in perpetration and in risk factors and motives for physical violence in martial and dating relationships. It also summarizes research that has found that most partner violence is mutual and that self-defense explains only a small percentage of partner violence by either men or women. The second part of the article documents seven methods that have been used to deny, conceal, and distort the evidence on gender symmetry. The third part of the article suggests explanations for the denial of an overwhelming body of evidence by reputable scholars. The concluding section argues that ignoring the overwhelming evidence of gender symmetry has crippled prevention and treatment programs. It suggests ways in which prevention and treatment efforts might be improved by changing ideologically based programs to programs based on the evidence from the past 30 years of research.

[–]itsalexcl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The hypocrisy is they would call out a man for doing something wrong but never speak a word of the same was done by women.

[–]EightBitEmi8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy

Scientific, biological facts and just facts in general can’t just be swept under a rug just because of feelings. Leave pretending to the children, they’re better at it and even THEY can admit that none of it is real. I’m all for doing what you want - call yourself whatever you want and be whatever you want, but you can’t force others to call you what you want to be called at all times, like getting offended when a random stranger calls you the wrong “pronoun” when you clearly look like a girl, even with a rainbow pixie cut. lol

Plus, if these genderqueer people were so sure of themselves, it wouldn’t matter what anyone would call them if they’re well established in themselves and in what they want to be/what they want to do.

For example, strong people don’t get offended and fly off the handle when someone calls them something offensive, because they know that just because someone is calling them a name doesn’t mean they truly ARE what they’re calling them, but a weak person on the other hand will become very offended and it’ll even go so far as to bug them days and weeks. It’s exactly the same.

I have a transgender friend actually, we’ve been friends for more than a decade and she’s getting surgery to become a “man”, goes to pride events, supports and is part of the LGBTQ and even though with her transition she looks extremely masculine and sounds masculine, she doesn’t care if I call her a “she” or if anyone else calls her a “she” because she is what she is and she got the surgery because she wanted to and basically, she doesn’t care. Lol That’s strong character. I still call her “him” out of respect however, only because she deserves it and isn’t angrily forcing me to do it. She also doesn’t deny 2 genders as a scientific fact and that no matter what, he is in good terms with the fact that he was born a woman and will always biologically BE a woman, realistically.

What I’m essentially getting at is:

  1. There are definitely only 2 genders, it’s scientific fact and no matter how you feel, it’ll never change that - BUT - you can pretend to be and call yourself whatever you please, get surgery, it’s definitely an option, no one’s stopping you.

  2. Don’t force others to deny facts if they don’t want to and expect everyone to call you by your correct “pronouns”, it’s simply unrealistic (in more ways than one) to expect such a thing.

Aaaaaand 3. Live and let live, that’s for both sides of the party. Be who you want. Do what you want. Just be sensible and a good person, and don’t be mad and so affected by WORDS and break out into a full-on toddler tantrum. Lol

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. If someone has an Adam’s apple I’m going to assume they are a male because biologically the average male has an Adam’s apple. To get mad at me for following basic biological fact is .. I don’t even know. I think it’s denying that there are actual biological laws that don’t go away just because you feel a certain way.

[–]itsalexcl1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Personally I don't care what anybody wants to call themselves and what preferences regarding a partner they have. What I am against is people think I need to know what your pronouns are and that people who misgender someone should be punished. I mean is that even logical?

[–]EightBitEmi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It absolutely isn’t and that’s exactly what I’m saying. Lol

[–]Radikost1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I will correct you a bit.

There are 2 sexes

Gender is what you call yourself. Sex is what you have got in your pants

Or at least that’s what I’m being taught

[–]akihonj6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sex and gender are interchangeable phrases applying to the same thing, I don't care what you're being taught, neither do you. Unless we are willing to believe that a transgender person saying lady cock means having a cock and calling yourself a woman really does make you a woman.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think that there’s this .. conflict between terms like male and masculine. A girl can do things that are traditionally masculine such as say roughhousing because most girls just aren’t interested in that. But just because a girl might do traditionally masculine things doesn’t mean she’s male because she’d had to be biologically male ie have a higher rate of testosterone to qualify I guess.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with saying masculine or feminine because certain genders are more prone to following certain behaviors. It’s just hard to make that distinction because I think a lot of people don’t comprehend the intrinsic differences between male and female brains.

[–]EightBitEmi2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

gen·der /ˈjendər/ noun

Either of the two >>>>SEXES<<<< (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female. "a condition that affects people of both genders"

Sadly, the definition has been tweaked in the second last parts because even schools are giving into people’s feelings for the sake of their feelings, but it still doesn’t defy or change literal scientific biological fact, and yes, sex and gender are the same thing. Lol Your gender being what you are based on your genitalia, or in your terms what’s “in your pants”. lol GENitalia = GENder.

I’m not sorry for stating scientific fact, I am sorry if it offends you however - but that isn’t going to change facts. No one’s stopping you and your friends from calling you whatever you wanna be called, but not everyone is going to be forced to do so as well.

[–]Radikost1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Okay thanks for explaining it to me and FYI I am a cishet white male MRA/Anti feminist so there is nothing to offend me about being in the wrong. I was mistaken, that’s all.

[–]EightBitEmi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My apology was only a precautionary statement in case you might’ve been offended by it. lol Many who deny 2 genders and who separate gender and sex are typically angered by these bare and very real facts. I apologize for my assumptions and I apologize for apologizing in this regard. Lol I, too, was mistaken.

I’m all for good, clean conversation and debate and I like to try and understand both sides of the spectrum regardless of any of my standpoints - but with this subject at hand, I simply cannot. There is quite LITERALLY not even a HAIR of logic behind this “52+ gender” movement and it is highly contradictory, therefore there simply isn’t anything to understand (even though I’ve attempted to understand). Anything and everything that denies history and scientific fact just grinds my gears and rubs me in a very, very wrong way, to be honest. Science and history are what brought us here today and what keeps us here and moving forward to advancement as a human race and I will NOT stoop to denying science because it simply risks too much. People are falling into a deeper and deeper sleep in their comfortable little “safe spaces” and they want everyone else to fall asleep deep into their imaginative state along with them as well. Some of us are still awake, and I’m hoping the ones stuck in Lala-land will wake up too, essentially.

[–]averis12 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

And these gross looking freaks are the ones calling any right-leaning men "incels."

Oh, the irony...

You know what's scary? The features of these "women" resemble the very gender they despise.

Like.. "half-tranny" looking. What happened to their looks?

The type of women you wouldn't touch with a 10-foot spear..

I saw a "women's march" once in B.C, Canada. Close to a hundred women. Not a SINGLE attractive woman.

How shocking is that..?

[–]EightBitEmi2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ya’ know what they say - Imitation the highest form of flattery.

When someone is jealous of you, it’s usually because they want to BE you - and isn’t that what feminism is? Wanting to be masculine and authoritative yourself? It is HIGHLY contradictory. I truly believe that what makes women “strong” and a “woman” is the differences we have from men - otherwise we wouldn’t be women, we’d be men. Lol But whatev’s, right ladies? Fuck all men, we’re better than them so let’s be LIKE them. Lol

Oh, the irony, the sheer confusion, chaos and clearly ignorant denial.

[–]Nanosnow1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

How does this relate to feminism?

[–]EightBitEmi1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Because the mass majority of this non-binary movement stuff is mainly women - look it up, it’s a statistic. They want to be more and feel like they are more by denying their gender and natural anatomy - mainly, if you notice, to look more like men. Boyish baggy clothing, short pixie haircuts, etc. all while claiming to either have no gender or to be some made-up one.

Also, ask any feminist and I bet you almost 98% of them will tell you they support the non-binary genderqueer movement and agree with it.

It has a lot to do with feminism, even though it highly contradictory.

[–]Nanosnow0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

All you said was majority women support this idea so once again how does this post relate to feminism. In no way is this an anti feminist post this is just non lgbt.

[–]EightBitEmi0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I completely understand your question and I can see how they can be seen as “unrelated” but they’re almost entirely similar and wherever there is an LGBTQ matter, if you notice, there is feminism as well.

Also, I didn’t only say women are “supporting” it, but that mainly women ARE “non-binary” and that it’s highly contradictory. I’m essentially saying that there are more women in the genderqueer movement (of course, they won’t admit they’re biological women because fuck science I guess) but the bare fact is, most of them are biologically women and usually before becoming “non-binary” most if not ALL of these women were feminists.

[–]Nanosnow0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I never said that you said only women supported it and there is nothing wrong with being non binary but your whole argument up to this point has been only saying the two groups are closely linked. The question still hasn't been answered, how is this post anti feminism? Because all I see is anti non binary/anti genderfluidity.

[–]EightBitEmi0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well, here - your question sounds rhetorical, so, what do you WANT to hear buddy? Lol

You clearly don’t agree, but you’re showing your disagreement in the form of a question that I think you already have a person answer to. Just state your opinion, I’m all ears - really, I am.

I also never said there was anything wrong with BEING non-binary but that denying scientific biological fact was wrong. Like I said, be whoever you want but don’t expect everyone to see it the way you do, especially in a demanding and condescending manner.

[–]Nanosnow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All I want to know is how this post is related to the sub



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