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Soldiers who fight for freedom and equality are heroes, not people who speak about freedom and equality

by Guy1404 | May 06, 2020 | antifeminists

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Title Soldiers who fight for freedom and equality are heroes, not people who speak about freedom and equality
Author Guy1404
Upvotes 590
Comments 57
Date 06 May 2020 10:54 AM UTC (2 months ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/709993
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/gehtho/soldiers_who_fight_for_freedom_and_equality_are/
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[–]Sublime_E22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even my sister believes that the world owes her something for existing. She hates my father because she did not get the best out of life, as if she never made a mistake. It's always someone else. One day she attempted to "wake" me, saying that the patriarchy this and that, etc. My response was swift. Women are becoming less capable of dealing with their life and responsibilities due to the idea that somehow the system is abusing them and therefore require special treatment. Guess what? We are all abused in some way or another. I was drafted and I am a reserve soldier, and even if I reside in a relatively peaceful country, the idea of being owned by the government is not nice. But hey, it's the best we have been able to achieve as human beings.

[–]BASSKORN41 points42 points  (4 children) | Copy

Hans hol den Flammenwerfer !

[–]Guy1404[S] 22 points23 points  (3 children) | Copy

Der Flammenwerfer, hier Kommandant!

[–]BASSKORN11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

Danke Hans, schicken wir sie wieder zurück in die Hölle 🔥🔥🔥

[–]OnePix3lGuy6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ja, Hans. I'm not eastern spy. Der Flammenwerfer!

[–]_peanut4butter_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

FÜR SPANDAU

[–]OussamaImLin43 points44 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yeah I totally agree with u, but this is an old idea.... Now they say is being a Trans is bravery ,this is nonsense

[–]Noesk23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or gay. Unless its an offense punishable by death. Even then, coming out/ whatever is dumber than brave.

Of course, i am pro LGBT rights, and whatever but 4 real

[–]OussamaImLin15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes 100%, but please don't plead ur innocence by saying I'm pro LGBT.... U did nothing wrong actually those who s attacking publicly the straight people they said (heterosexual not working) even in some universities LGBTQ tried to make halls one public places only for them (no straight people allowed) u can Google it.

U can express ur opinion without apologizing my friend

[–]real_josem30-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

They say trans. Is bravery because the suicide rate for trans. People is above 51%. Lol

[–]GerinX21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women not wearing any makeup on social media isn’t brave.

Fireman running into burning buildings is brave.

Everyone just wants a pat on the back these days.

[–]theschizophrenguy10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Afghanistan joined the chat

[–]RockmanXX8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Press F to Stone

[–]Alida20018 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

being a lesbian in say... saudi arabia, would be brave. but being a lesbian in america really isnt.

[–]Guy1404[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I mean the western world

[–]Rougetherug591 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

There still are people who kill people for being gay or trans here

[–]Alida20011 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

oh yeah definitely but homophobia isnt ingrained into
american culture or practices nowadays.

[–]Guy1404[S] 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Deeds speak louder than words

[–]beniesixx986 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Always have , always will .

[–]Mick_Donalds5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Came for the stunning, stayed for the brave.

[–]Yodas-Fart-Chamber6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

B-b-b-but the patriarchy.

[–]make-me-yours-please3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I half way agree. I think that soldiers are extremely brave and horrendously unappreciated for what they do. I also think that lgbt people are brave when they unapologetically be themselves and not care about what others think. These are two different types of bravery.

What isn’t brave is trying to force society to change and claim to be victims when society doesn’t want to change.

[–]Ziodyne_Ham3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Coming out and expressing your opinions requires a little bit of bravery, but not as much as it takes to run out of a trench with people shooting at you, and fighting

[–]rhymenisce115 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lol - yeah that’s called daddy issues, insecurity with your natural features such as hair color, and sexual fetishism.

[–]beniesixx988 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

No , that's called wanting something they haven't earned , I'm always cutting and dying my hair , I'm into bdsm .But the difference me and them is I know I don't deserve that title , I will never claim to be a 'hero' or 'brave' because of I might get out of my box . My bils are the heros , my grandfathers were hero's , my great uncles were hero's .They fought for our country and my papa who I actually got to know is just that a hero .

[–]rhymenisce10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you say so

[–]BenjiGoose2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

what these idiot feminists are saying is like

“hey my dad fought in both WW2 and the Vietnam War, how about yours?”

“well mine are gay, so they’re braver than yours”

i don’t understand this bullshit logic, how is coming out/ making out with same sex/ whatever in public (where most people accept the LGBTQ community, including myself) braver than fighting for equality? it is braver than soldiers enduring bullet wounds, fighting for the very same people who call them “cowards” because they are not LGBTQ?

[–]thegraveyardcat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m pretty sure this was an lgbtq thing though, not a feminist thing

[–]RockmanXX2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've said this countless times, the bottom image is ALSO bravery IF its done in Countries like Saudi Arabia. However, these COWARDS have no balls to actually do something like that.

[–]PickleChuckle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. The bottom picture was taken in Wales which is not a country that has ANY issues with the LGBT+ community. As a whole, the people there are welcoming and don’t treat them differently.

[–]dadsuki21 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Gonna be real, at a time there was some bravery to it and in some parts of the world I believe there is, they're entitled to show affection with their SO be it man or woman but at a time not a lot of people agreed and some get violent about it.

[–]iHaveAtinyWoody1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"At a time"

And that time has passed. Especially in any civilized country.

[–]MeatyDogFruit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

While it can take some anxiety to come out about orientation I agree that facing bullets is far braver than changing a gender

[–]MeinChutiya693 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Any sane person can say that a thousand angry glares are better than a few hundred bullets

[–]Guy1404[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The soldiers who shot this bullets are the one who fought for you, and the bullets that where shot killed people who where indoctrinated by racism and ignorance.

[–]MeinChutiya694 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude I agree with you. I said the soldiers who faced death to fight for us had tougher lives than these "brave" people. I still don't know why I got downvotes for agreeing with the post.

[–]cowyeti0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

I don’t think mlk went to war. Neither did Rosa parks. Donald trump literally ran away from war.

[–]SeizmicETC0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Lol, being too lazy to get out of your seat on a bus makes you a hero?

And let's not even talk about MLK as a person with the FBI files that were recently released, revealing he was an anti white rapist who had a fetish for white women.

[–]cowyeti1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Too lazy to get out of her seat? That's a nice way to brush away someone who refused to comply with racial segregation.

You're the same type of person to say George Washington was a hero even though he owned slaves. I wonder why you don't extend the same charity to a black man....

[–]SeizmicETC0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Her refusal to comply with racial segregation wasn't out of some stand (stand, lol) against inequality blacks were facing, it was literally because she couldn't be bothered to stand up and even if it wasn't don't conflate that shit to the level of bravery WHITE soldiers displayed in world wars. Don't even fucking try.

Your last paragraph is you making baseless accusations against me in order to somehow try and undermine me/portray me in a bad light.

George Washington was a great man. I don't know about Hero.

Also, at the height of American slavery only 4-6% of the population actually owned slaves.

Now go watch your Jordan Peele movies.

[–]cowyeti1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Her refusal to comply with racial segregation wasn't out of some stand (stand, lol) against inequality blacks were facing, it was literally because she couldn't be bothered to stand up

Yes definitely. She fought for civil rights her entire life because she didn't like standing. It's not like the bus incident was just what made her famous. You're actually so smart.

even if it wasn't don't conflate that shit to the level of bravery WHITE soldiers displayed in world wars. Don't even fucking try.

Holy shit dude. When I made that joke about you being racist it was a joke, but now i know you're actually racist. It wasn't white soldiers that displayed bravery in the world wars, it was AMERICAN soldiers. Almost 1 million African-Americans fought on behalf of a country that didn't believe they had rights. Why don't you celebrate their bravery? Oh yeah, it's cause you're racist.

Also, why wouldn't fighting for civil rights be as brave as fighting in a war? Blacks were still being lynched in the 60s my dude.

try and undermine me/portray me in a bad light.

I mean you kind of outed yourself as a racist so I didn't have to do anything.

George Washington was a great man. I don't know about Hero.

Why was he a great man and not MLK. Washington literally owned other human beings, but you call him a great man? I mean I'd agree that Washington was great, but I also agree that MLK was great. You can't ignore the faults of one while focusing on the faults of the other.

Also, at the height of American slavery only 4-6% of the population actually owned slaves.

So? How was this relevant? What I've learned about you so far is that you're racist and incredibly stupid.

Now go watch your Jordan Peele movies.

I'l do that after I finish putting a baby in your sister

[–]SeizmicETC0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm typing off a phone so forgive my lack of quote mining abilities.

You mention my stats about the % of slave owners not being relevant which is ironic because it's in direct response to your inane tangent about George Washington being a slave owner.

Lol @ calling me racist because I pointed out the bravery of white soldiers in the world wars, you're aware the war consisted of much more than America, right?

Lol @ the 1 million Africans leftist diatribe, too. You realise only 700ish Africans died in WW2, right?

Would you like to compare that to the deaths young white men endured in close house combat in Stalingrad or in the trenches of WW1 where some soldiers were so traumatised even though there was nothing physically wrong with them, they went blind and death.

Leftist propagandist pushers like you fucking disgust me. The world wars were White mens wars and they died in multiple millions, not 700 fucking deaths.

Stop trying to revise History to portray your race (if you're not black you're a cuck, kill yaself son) as more important than they really were.

On George Washington, you're looking through history and applying the moral standards of today to men of a completely different world. MLK was alive in the 1960s, his disgusting behaviour is much worse than Washington's because MLK KNEW what he was doing was morally and socially unacceptable, owning slaves in Washingtons era was a social norm for the rich elite.

You're comparing fighting for civil rights in a first world country to Stalingrad and trench warfare? Holy fucking shit, stupidity like this actually exists?

Also, how many blacks were lynched in the 1960s? Lmfao.

Fuck me you're a special kind of spastic aren't you? Then again, you didn't exactly hit the genetic lottery did you, average IQ of 85, so this is what it looks like.

[–]cowyeti1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You mention my stats about the % of slave owners not being relevant which is ironic because it's in direct response to your inane tangent about George Washington being a slave owner.

But I wasn't talking about Americans, I was talking about George Washington. So, it was irrelevant.

Lol @ calling me racist because I pointed out the bravery of white soldiers in the world wars, you're aware the war consisted of much more than America, right?

My bad. I thought you were talking about the bravery of white Americans so i responded saying all american soldiers were brave. I still don't understand why someone would single out white soldiers though...

Lol @ the 1 million Africans leftist diatribe, too. You realise only 700ish Africans died in WW2, right?

You mean people who were not allowed to serve on the front lines died less??? I never thought about that!!! It's still brave to volunteer to fight for a country that oppresses you.

Would you like to compare that to the deaths young white men endured in close house combat in Stalingrad or in the trenches of WW1 where some soldiers were so traumatised even though there was nothing physically wrong with them, they went blind and death.

And what about the Indians who starved to death in the siege of Kut? What about the Algerians who were the first to suffer the first mass use of gas in ww1? What about the Moroccans who made up 2/3 of the Free French Army? What about the Filipinos who suffered alongside their American colonial masters during the Bataan death march? All these men fought in a war that wasn't theirs, and they fought to liberate, or maintain the liberty, of the nations that were oppressing them. They fought not knowing whether they would be free when it was all over. Tell me that's not bravery.

Leftist propagandist pushers like you fucking disgust me. The world wars were White mens wars and they died in multiple millions, not 700 fucking deaths.

Dude. You have absolutely no self awareness. You are engaging in historical revisionism by claiming WW1 and 2 were white men's wars.

Answer a few questions for me:

  • What was the largest volunteer army in WW2? (British Indian Army)
  • Who made up 2/3 of the Free French Army? (North Africans)
  • Who made up a majority of the British army in Mesopotamia? (Indians)
  • Who made up a majority of the armies in Africa? (Black Africans)
  • Who made up the Japanese army? (Japanese and other Asians)
  • Where these wars only fought in Europe (no)

I don't use these facts to claim the white men had no role in the world wars because that would be historical revisionism. But nor do I claim minorities had no role in the world wars. That would also be historical revisionism.

Stop trying to revise History to portray your race

actually no self awareness.....

On George Washington, you're looking through history and applying the moral standards of today to men of a completely different world. MLK was alive in the 1960s, his disgusting behaviour is much worse than Washington's because MLK KNEW what he was doing was morally and socially unacceptable, owning slaves in Washingtons era was a social norm for the rich elite.

Was Muhammad bad? He fucked a 9 year old. Was MLK worse than Muhammad because the culture was different in the 7th century or whenever he was alive? No of course not.

You're comparing fighting for civil rights in a first world country to Stalingrad and trench warfare? Holy fucking shit, stupidity like this actually exists?

No. I'm saying fighting for civil rights makes you brave because it's dangerous. Probably not as dangerous as Stalingrad, but dangerous. In the same way being on of those guys who works on an oil rig in the ocean. The original meme said war is brave, fighting for civil rights isn't.

Fuck me you're a special kind of spastic aren't you? Then again, you didn't exactly hit the genetic lottery did you, average IQ of 85, so this is what it looks like.

IQ memes. Further proof you're racist.

[–]bebasw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haha black bad trump good I rednek texas MuRiCa second amendment

[–]porgyporgporgy1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It depends on the context. If those lesbians are in a dangerous country and is fighting for equality then yes it is bravery. In America, no.

[–]MeinChutiya691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well said.

[–]DrippXMoose211 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The bottom one is disgusting not because it’s gay but just because they look like they are making out at a theme park which anyone dong is disgusting

[–]Poseidonram19440 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Terrible meme, but the principle is correct

[–]Guy1404[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not meant as meme

[–]bebasw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I really like how being trans now is brave and yet no one talks about Turning (the guy who cracked the enigma code and invented the modern concept for the computer). Who killed himself because he was castrated for being gay.

Wow I actually got downvoted for this. Same comment section where one guy defended segregation in the USA

[–]MingSushi-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ew... they don’t even have matching colors, it’s all over the place, and their style and hair doesn’t even make sense....

I swear most of these lesbian feminists could be really, really cute if they actually put in some effort instead of just throwing on anything they touch in the dark

[–]Lickiecat-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Is this supposed to be ironic? or is this a general feminist mentality meme?

Both are displaying completely different acts of what one might call bravery, but they are not comparable in any way, one is putting your life on the line, the other is completely exposing yourself for who you truly are.

[–]Severe-Pirate4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, I don’t really see how this fits the theme of this sub

[–]stellarcompanion-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Scraping the barrel for 10 year old memes

[–]Guy1404[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not meant as meme

[–]DarkNights292-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s just disgusting.

[–]Washys_finest-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hmmm... depends on what the soldier did.



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