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This whole operation was their idea

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Title This whole operation was their idea
Author iamrivensky
Upvotes 45
Comments 32
Date 02 July 2019 01:48 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/710561
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/c89fxq/this_whole_operation_was_their_idea/
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[–]User-31f64a4e1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then I would say ... you're talking about the non-Muslim part of the world.

But you're right. Women probably weren't all that keen to dig coal by hand, crew wooden sailing ships, harpoon whales, fight Indians and rustlers, hammer out horseshoes at the forge, join the shield wall, hunt down predators killing the stock, brand the cows, or pretty much anything else men did back in the day.

[–]seven_pillars_of_wut1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Boomer-level meme skills I see.

[–]heisyes1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not dangerous anymore, luckily we all progressed. Apart from this sub.

[–]Rocky4280 points1 point  (24 children) | Copy

Just curious, but who were the ones making life outside dangerous for women?

[–]BoomersAreIdiots2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Mean girls who said my ankles were immodest 😡

[–]An0N-3-M0us32 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Those are some sexy ankles

[–]User-31f64a4e0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

It is in fact mostly other women who attack female immodesty.

Sluts undercut the value of pussy. Men don't mind that a bit. We aren't gonna marry it, but we won't criticize it. We are quite happy to hit it, quit it, run it through the gears, park stop it, neutral slam it, and leave it in a ditch over by the section 8 housing where we found it, dripping fluids.

[–]BoomersAreIdiots-2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy

Jesus Christ man seek therapy.

[–]User-31f64a4e0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

A comment with no information content whatsoever. Well done, sir!

Perhaps you should avoid this group. The grownups are talking here.

[–]BoomersAreIdiots0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Excuse me sir, but it is uncouth of you to impinge upon my maturity a most undue assertion. Now please do go about your business of maturely discussing your incel rage with other incels, sir. Thank you, sir.

[–]User-31f64a4e0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

impinge upon my maturity

You have no maturity, as evidenced by your reliance on personal attacks, especially those over imaginary psychological characteristics. Please confine yourself to the higher levels of the argument pyramid.

incel

Name calling? That's what you have to prove your points, name calling?

uncouth of you

Ah. Not just name calling, you can do tone policing as well.

Alas, counter argument or refutation of central points, not so much.

[–]Spez_Dispenser0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

"The grownups are talking here" is the part that gets me. Quite the basement dweller.

[–]User-31f64a4e0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, we seem to be getting a lot of those in here.
Our moderators maybe need to limber up the ban-hammer.

[–]User-31f64a4e2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Back in the day?
Mother nature. Wild animals. The natives. The livestock. Storms at sea. Mining cave ins. Mean people who hurt their fee-wings.

[–]Rocky4280 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Man, you’re out here acting like we’re in hunting and gathering era. We haven’t had to deal with that in hundreds of years dude. Like seriously, my girlfriend and her sister laughed their asses off when they saw this.

The way you literally group all women together and pathetically mock them for their “fee-wings” tells me that you don’t know a lot of girls in real life. And before you start trying to pull that “argument pyramid” bullshit, just remember that you’re entire argument was based on a straw man interpretation of literally the entire female population, which shows such a disconnect from reality that it made two real girls laugh.

[–]User-31f64a4e1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This meme, and my comments, address feminist nonsense about how oppressed women were in history.

Note the use of past tense. Note my words "back in the day?"

You are apparently not bright enough to pick up on that.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Males

[–]laws161-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah yes. Natural selections hurt the left wings feewings. You destroyed em, the left is gone.

[–]bigrichardpic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's my man* /woman*!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

I dunno, lions, tigers, bears? The things men have been fighting and have been forced to fight since before civilization? Sometimes still?

[–]Rocky4280 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Yeah dude, because you’re totally fighting lions, tigers, and bears right now. Gimme a break.

And as for being “forced”, keep in mind that it was men who initially refused to let women serve in the military. All of these inherent disadvantages that you claim men are facing were instituted by men themselves, unless you’re going to try to say that women were the ones who had major legislative power throughout history?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

I don’t understand how presenting the argument that men of the past (And some today) fighting threats which includes animals and sometimes other men implies I’m trying to take credit for it. Where did I say “Me”?

And I never said that things like the draft weren’t other men’s fault. That’s a mixture between gender and class issues (The poor fighting grand dying for the rich) Try and take a big guess why men in power forced men without voice to fight in the military in bulk as opposed to letting those few spots be occupied by women who wanted to fight (Big hint, it’s an anime genre that starts with H and has to do with girls)

[–]Rocky4280 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Woah, what the fuck? Are you actually trying to say that men created the draft so that all the poor men could die, leaving plenty of girls leftover for the men in power to create their own harems? If so, then you have a lot of problems man.

Also, if that was the case, then you just proved how shitty it is to be a woman, to be treated as basically a commodity or trophy. You also sort of proved that the majority of the world’s issues towards men and women were instituted by men in power throughout history, so good job, you played yourself.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Um, yeah. I wouldn’t say that’s the primary goal but thats a benefit. Of course that’s shitty for everyone who isn’t rich. Your dead or your an object.

And yes I did intentionally blame rich men in power for some problems that men also face because there’s really not denying it. Why would I deny a very clear indicator of what makes life shitty for a while majority of people? Not “Playing” myself here.

If you want to keep arguing let’s go to chat. Mods here might ban you because wrongthink

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Take a look at this Wikipedia article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_expendability

Ivana Milojević notes that while patriarchy assigns the role of sex object to women, it assigns to men the role of violence-object, with male expendability being corollary to the sexual objectification of girls.[2]

Doesn’t do much to explain the objectification of women (There are plenty other articles), just draws a comparison between traditional gender roles and both the supposed disposability of men and sexual exploitation of women.

[–]Uno_Cinco[🍰] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm just saying this because you don't seem to understand. Men have been objectifying just as much as women. Their are male prostitutes and strippers. Also back In the day it wasn't only men who went hunting for a spouse. Some women saw( notice the past tense half-wit) men as nothing but bags of money and routes to the top of the social pyramid.

[–]Rocky4280 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

First of all, you were the ones who were using the past dynamics of male and female relationships to invalidate modern feminism. If you believe that this was all in the past, then you agree that this post is stupid for trying to make some point that modern feminism is weak and pathetic because of the actions of past women from a different time.

Secondly, the social systems and legislations that predicated most female behavior in the past were primarily instituted by men. Yes, women were encouraged to find a wealthy and responsible man to settle down with, but that was mainly because a woman just couldn’t support herself independently because of the rampant sexism going on in the country. So if you believed that was a problem, then you would have to thank feminism once again, because it pushed women to become more independent and not depend on men for financial stability. Compared to the past, there are staggering few amount of women who marry men based solely on income, as the typical “stay-at-home housewife” has gone more out of style.

And lastly, while I’m not saying that male objectification isn’t a thing, the amount of female objectification is far worse in our society, though it definitely has gotten better. Go anywhere and see how many strip clubs for men there are compared for women. Go to any company and see whether the majority of sexual harassment is directed at men or at women. It takes just one step into the real world to see the world we live in is heavily favored against men.

And you know what, I’m a guy, and I’m secure enough with my own successes and failings in life to admit that I’ve had it easier due to being a man. I’ve had issues, but nothing that I can’t work against, and that type of attitude has genuinely helped me with my relationships with both men and women.

The fact that I’ve only ever heard statistics and claims about men’s rights issue in response to feminist claims tells me that you don’t actually care about these problems. You just don’t like it when feminists talk about any sort of issue women are facing because it makes you feel insecure and bad, so you fuel you’re own victim complex by pointing out some men’s issues as if that makes everything even. I have never heard someone discuss the real social problems men face in society isolated from a feminist topic, because none of you actually care. It’s why you ignore the fact that many feminist movements have benefited men greatly, because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

TLDR: This post is stupid, and I’m not surprised you’re active on the antiLBGQT subreddit and rate pornstars.

[–]Uno_Cinco[🍰] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

First off I am not insecure in any way and have been raised to have open dialogs. Also I have nothing against women getting ahead in the world. Just because the you only hear of statistics about men's issues in response to female claims doesn't mean no one cares about them it just means pride or a fear of being shamed gets in the way. This issues are brought to light when certain sources make it look like the problems concern women. It is not the fault of all men that the issues are twisted to block of or bury the claims of women, but the fault of the one's in power. And when I pointed out issues I was not solely talking about the US because it's only around 220 years old. I was talking about the entire world.

I know women have tough. I see this every day in my mother, but she has taught me different values then the ones you seem to stand for. She taught me to respect women, but also that men and women have different jobs/roles.

I am not a misogynistic pig, my only insecurity is a deeply rooted fear of abandonment stemming from my father. And the advantages I am naturally born with as a man are a gift from God, whether they be family, opportunity or, talent I will not reject them or apologize for them as I have experienced dark times and they got me through them.

Also in my opinion Independence is bullshit. No one can be independent, everyone relies on everyone. Everyone's actions affect everyone else. The electric company relies on you to pay your bill, and you rely on them to keep your lights on. Your parents rely on you for companionship, and you on them for life.

Now, I really want to end this with "In conclusion, suck a dick."

But that would be going to far.

It's fun to discuss my ideals with people who aren't family so if you feel up to it PM me.

[–]KainoaTheMeme0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

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[–]User-31f64a4e3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not revisionist at all.



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