it really grinds my gears how no feminists ever talk about male issues

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December 21, 2018

male issues, such as being seen as work objects, the judicial system having a bias against them, abuse against them that goes unnoticed and unhelped, the violence against them and the suicide and depression rates.

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Title it really grinds my gears how no feminists ever talk about male issues
Author enterelysium22
Upvotes 30
Comments 15
Date 21 December 2018 03:53 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]aluciddreamer4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Feminists and MRA's tend to have wildly different ideas about what men's issues actually are and how society ought to go about addressing them. I couldn't care less that feminists don't give a shit about men's issues unless they can frame them in such a way that men are to blame. I just wish they didn't pair the attitude that feminism is a gender-equality movement "for everyone" with the idea that men ought to get their own movement. Pick a narrative.

If you can find someone who supports a contestable assumption of shared parenting in family court, or more oversight for family court, or massive revisions to Title IX such as are currently being made by Betsy DeVos, or whose idea of toxic masculinity isn't paired with a ridiculous double-standard when it comes to acknowledging what actually constitutes masculinity, then more power to you. There are decent people who identify as feminists, but those people don't have any institutional power within the broader scope of their movement.

I'm in a place right now where I've just had enough. I had one person who I could rely on to talk soberly about these issues, and it was astounding to see how utterly incapable she was of behaving like a human being as soon as a group of her peers became involved. People love their thought-terminating cliches.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Their ideology is predicated on the notion that women have a monopoly on suffering. It's a proven femfact that all of society conspires against women and men are privileged. Everything ultimately comes back to privileging men over women because Patriarchy.

Addressing men's issues would be a direct attack on this. It would be like an avid Communist saying really capitalism is a much better system.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Anti feminist women here

They want to be equal but only focus on their make belive problems. In alot of working environments unless you can work as hard as the men then no we dont deserve to be their equal. We where mentally and physically made different so when we come together we balance out eachother and take care of what the other lacks. So there is no way that we will ever be truly equals. Me as a women would love to be a home maker and carter to my family because it brings me joy to help others. Instead im gone at work most of the day to make sure my family as a good life. My husband works as well. Just cant have decent things on one check. We have to many rights and the feminist now a days, just sound like whiney kid at the store asking for a toy their parents can't afford because of our economy. Which middle class is like being borderline poor now.

If i didnt have responsibilities and a life i would start my own activists movement.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because men and responsible women are busy working and taken care of eachother

[–]Aro2220-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hear them talk about male issues all the time. They say that they don't understand why men aren't more supportive of feminism because it's in their benefit.

They talk about how beneficial feminism is to men all the time they aren't talking about how men need to die.

So I have no idea what you are talking about.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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