Growing old and alone. And how old are the guys posting on TRP? Poll?

VasiliyZaitzev · 2018-12-25T18:59:25+00:00

I'm 51 and will be spending the rest of the week + New Year with my 23 y.o. OLTR1. She doesn't look a day over 22. Life is good.

If I had gotten married young and been "lucky" and found my "soul mate" or some shit when I was younger - I'd be married to a 50 y.o. woman. On a purely practical level, I'm happy boning multiple 20-somethings. How can I do that? Because I don't have a 50 y.o. wife telling me that I can't.¹

Generally, when someone says, "but what about when you're older?" the subtext is "Quick! Wife up a tatted-up, cankled bar slut single mom before all the 'good ones' are taken!" Um, no, thanks.

Is it harder to meet girls as you get older? Hmm. It doesn't seem to be. You simply have to pre-qualify them. Most women want a man near their own age, and that's it. That's probably 50% of young women. Another 30-35% might be open to a relationship with an older man, but prefer a man near their own age. But 15-20% of women prefer and older lover. So the pool of young women that are willing to bang you, within your age category and before other factors are considered, will be smaller, but the girls in that group will really, REALLY like you.²

So the question is, what are your goals, and what types of risks are you willing to take? I'm a deal guy and I look at marriage and I see it's a shit deal (for men). If you get "lucky" you stay married and have to listen to your wife bitch all the time, because getting divorced is a pain in the ass.

Now imagine be 50 and having to start over while paying 40% of your gross to a woman so she can fuck other guys and teach your kids to hate you. You're starting over from less than zero.

So how many of your "single" co-workers are bitter, divorced people? You give the Ring of Power to ONE woman at your peril.

Meanwhile, if you stay single and spin plates - even if they are in your own age group - then no ONE woman decides if you're fucking that night and no ONE woman can "change her mind" because you've "grown apart" and get awarded Cash & Prizes for walking away.

You have to be careful trying to use TRP Tools to fulfill your Bluepill dreams....

¹ Wives can be real buzz kills in this way.

² My girls all dig that I am good at "life" and don't get jealous or fly off the handle. So when you're out looking for young tail to have longer term things with, find tall introverts. They will thank you for it.

creating_my_life · 2018-12-25T17:25:25+00:00

mid 50s here. family has taken my time and money and delayed me from my goals. being married doesn't give you a best friend, you'll never be more lonely than when you're married.

you can't achieve blue pill goals through red pill awareness. that's why it's bitter.

the single grumpy guys you see are blue pill.

don't give up on relationships, but never sacrifice your goals and life for someone else's.

BTW, when's the last time you called your Dad?

Mangasbzo7 · 2018-12-26T01:22:02+00:00

OP, this is something I think abt a lot. Guys will come in here and say fucking plates at 50 is great + all their married friends are jealous, but they are in denial. I say this bc:

a) I'm 28. I am living the playboy lifestyle right now fucking plates and it's really not all it's cracked up to be. Fucking loads of plates, I have learnt that 1 good girl REALLY is worth a thousand plates. And this lifestyle is not going to be more fulfilling 20 years down the line

b) at some point you will become old & weak. That's when you need family and loved ones around you, not 22 year olds, who won't be around anyhow bc the second they see you need help taking care of yourself they will bail.

Personally I am considering one of two options:

a) ultimately moving to a country in the East where marriage laws are still sensible and setting up a life there

b) if I stay in the west just maximizing my SMV and RMV, so I can have a LTR and family without getting married. This is possible and becoming more common in society too

chomponthebit · 2018-12-25T21:46:27+00:00

I’m in my 40’s. Last plate was 18. The one before her, 22.

Never married, no kids. Most of my married peers hate their lives and envy mine - and though their wives put on shows when I’m over, these guys are all like Ben-Affleck-smoking-omfg.jpg

My happily married peers fell in love early and haven’t known much else, so they bonded, and the sex is awesome because they’ve got nothing else to compare it to.

The ones who married women who rode the cc? They fucking hate their lives

GayLubeOil · 2018-12-25T17:55:29+00:00

The US is going to demographically transition in the next 20 years. Your going to see lots of anti male and anti European rhetoric to justify welfair state gibs me dat. The US government will have to increase wealth transfers just to keep the political situation stable as the economy slides deeper and deeper.

These 50 year olds who's cocks your so eager to suck on rode an unprecedented economic surge up. In the next 20 years the exact opposite is about to happen.

The practical advice here is either learn how to cook stray animals into tastey stews. Maybe you got some Korean friends who can come through with some recepies.

Or

Figure out a way to relocate your wealth so you won't get economically gang banged.

This is the most Red Pill advice on what will be when your 60. Your delusion of economic stability is blue pill.

[deleted] · 2018-12-25T17:56:36+00:00

While I'm only 21 I've been on TRP for a bit and can say that there's a wider range of ages here than you may think. Definitely a handful of those 40-50+ and some below 16 too.

While I know you said you preferred for older people to answer, I'll throw my two cents in. I was in a great LTR for a couple years and it crumbled. I kept the girl as a plate but as of thus far haven't reinitiated LTR at all with no plans to do so either. My take on it is that, had that LTR lasted forever, I would have had a very nice, happy, stable life. However, I am unsure that that's a possibility. I think the "good" part of an LTR has an expiration date.

My best recommendation, and what I plan to do myself, is to just spin plates, fuck girls, let them show their qualities to you over time. Those who appeal to you, LTR them. If they continue appealing to you, continue LTRing them. And that's honestly all we can do. We may find our perfect LTR that does not go bad, we may not--no control. Deal with whatever outcome you reach and accept it.

I also do think people in this generation are too quick at times to scrap relationships rather than working through problems. I've been a bit back-and-forth myself on if my ex-LTR should have been worked through. It could have been pretty good, I think, and I regret that we live in a day where that could not happen. But I think nexting girls when you have to, to avoid wasting time on a failing project, is necessary.

light-----------dark · 2018-12-25T18:34:45+00:00

Have a life mission, and you’d be too occupied to consider having a family w/ kids.

_the_shape_ · 2018-12-26T00:44:36+00:00

No need to marry to have some sort of life-partner, if that's the sort of thing that interests you.

I'm 36 now, been with my LTR for a little over three years, and the advice I'd give is to do what I did and make your opposition to marriage very clear from the beginning. In my case, she's given me some shit on rare occasions, and I always point back to the same response: if you don't like it, I guarantee there's some other schmuck out there who'd gladly hack a limb off in exchange for being able to "put on ring on it you". I'm not leading anyone on, not playing any sort of tricks - in fact, I'm being completely transparent by communicating my aversion to that god-awful institution - so it can't be held against me that I've flip-flopped or been deliberately ambiguous, only that I'm being too obstinate and not giving her what she wants.

Look at it this way: in an LTR, your top move is to withdraw attention, sometimes even permanently if things go south enough, from your point of view. Yes, you can still do this to some extent while married, but not permanently, not for good - at least, typically not without paying a serious toll to get out of what you no longer want any part of. Why make an LTR even harder?

jbnw17 · 2018-12-25T20:07:34+00:00

TRP is what you make of it bro. Its not a bunch of rules and guidlines set in stone. Use TRP learnings to achieve what you want personally in YOUR life.

SteveStJohn · 2018-12-26T01:51:20+00:00

Check out Chris Rock Commitment v. New Pussy

Brickles09 · 2018-12-26T02:06:34+00:00

“I've been with a my ex for 3 years, being in "love". Having that special connection with someone.” If you guys had such special connection, why is she you “ex” then? Care to explain?

ColeTra1n3 · 2018-12-26T02:35:47+00:00

17 now been reading for two years

Musicgoon · 2018-12-26T07:49:29+00:00

I'm 40. I eased into the red pill about 6 years ago. I was married before and miserable. She was BPD and horrible. I had a kid with her not by choice.

I can say that a life of freedom is worth far more than the jail of marriage. Then again, I've got friends and a daughter and many plates to keep my bed warm.

I truly believe that if you're worried about being lonely, you're still believing a female narrative. I'm hardly ever lonely. Most guys don't have confidence that they can develop deep bonds without giving their soul to a woman. It's just not true..

Rognin · 2018-12-26T09:30:55+00:00

38 year old. Have been steady with a 23 yo since August. Life's great.

SeasonedRP · 2018-12-26T11:04:31+00:00

You have a fantasy ideal of marriage that isn't uncommon among younger men. You envision a devoted lifelong companion, someone who will support you through life's struggles, and above all just love you for you. Keep in mind that it is just that--a fantasy. Women aren't programmed to think that way and don't think that way. Hang around some 50+ women and hear what they think of their husbands. Your bubble would quickly burst, just as it will when that "special connection" you think you have with your LTR is abruptly severed without your input. If you want to get married and have kids then do it, but don't fantasize or try to argue that it can be something that it can't.

50, two sons, got married when young, kicked her out for various reasons. Sons have always lived with me.

HeadingRed · 2018-12-28T14:31:09+00:00

I'm in my early 50's. Never married, no kids, on my 4th live-in LTR.

Being alone and lonely are two different things.

When I was in my 20's I was in the bottom 50% of my age group SMV wise. I'm now probably at the top 10% - if I want a LTR with a woman my age I'm the hot property.

It will be easier to get women as you age and IF you stay fit, don't fuck up your life you will have a buffet to pick from when you want to.

Unless for whatever reason you want kids enjoy your single life. We all die in the end and being married or having kids won't change that.

Also pulling women younger than yourself is shockingly easy.

Title	Growing old and alone. And how old are the guys posting on TRP? Poll?
Author	Mrhobo888
Upvotes	64
Comments	76
Date	25 December 2018 05:09 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	askTRP
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