Very disrespectful comments from LTR after broken frame, soft or hard next?

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Title Very disrespectful comments from LTR after broken frame, soft or hard next?
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Date 22 July 2020 04:41 AM UTC (8 months ago)
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[–]TRP VanguardWhisper219 points220 points  (6 children) | Copy

Anytime a woman does something that might be a bluff, immediately call it. If it's not a bluff, find another woman.

at the end of the argument she says "you're lucky I'm not dumping you over this, I can do better".

Invite her to do so... "Yes, you absolutely can do it better. Good luck out there."

Remember that women want relationships and you are the gatekeeper of them. A woman threatening to break up with you is like a man threatening to not have sex with her.

[–]CasaDeFranco48 points49 points  (0 children) | Copy

Indeed, humor her and flip the script.

It's quite likely she's replaceable. Being a respectable partner is a low threshold and this woman failed that test.

[–]Protocol_Apollo11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

With a nuclear (or almost nuclear) bluff, shouldn’t you end things either way?

[–]CarbonBasedLifeForm60 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I love this comment

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Anytime a woman does something that might be a bluff, immediately call it. If it's not a bluff, find another woman.

I absolutely agree with this and I always try to remember to do so. If she's bluffing then you basically passed a shit test, if she wasn't you don't want to be with that bitch anyway.

[–]spartan_samurai127 points128 points  (3 children) | Copy

"you're lucky I'm not dumping you over this, I can do better"

It's finished mate, if you get back in relationship with her then during your next argument she will say exact same words. She have zero respect for you and your frame has been brutally broken.

The reason she is blowing up your phone because she have no one lined up at the moment. As soon as she find someone you will be thrown out like a piece of chewing gum.

[–]smhfamswag14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

The reason she is blowing up your phone because she have no one lined up at the moment. As soon as she find someone you will be thrown out like a piece of chewing gum.

^ This is so true. Dump this bitch

[–]tudor0723 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

This

[–]teka715 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

i second this

[–]exton989 points90 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hard next. Unless you have zero self respect

[–]TXJohn8358 points59 points  (1 child) | Copy

"you're lucky I'm not dumping you over this, I can do better"

After shit like that you can't LTR with her anymore, by keeping her as an LTR you opening yourself up for so much shit you might as well buy her a strapon and grab your ankles.

How should I proceed?

You have a few options:

  1. Move her to be a plate, you just need to make sure you keep frame and stop with ANY form of relationship type shit. The key is she needs to feel like you are using her just for sex, you don't need to tell her shit, but let your actions do the talking. Make sure that you limit her time over at your house to no more than 3 hours at a time, to do this you need to have her come over in the afternoon, then you need to plan to hang out with friends at a fixed time.
  2. Give her a bit of space and a few weeks to think about it, then plate her. The problem with giving her a few weeks is that if she has abandonment issues they will be amplified.
  3. Just ghost her block her and move on(which might be the only thing that you can handle from reading your post).

[–]toygar520 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’d definitely choose 1st option because its way more brutal than just ending it

[–]FirstName_LastName425 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Once she disrespects you its over.

She already does not respect you, if you get back with her, she'll respect you even less

[–]TheRedPillRipper50 points51 points  (0 children) | Copy

completely disrespectful

I have dealbreakers in my LTR. That’s it. Infidelity for example. Depending on the nature of your LTR; if it’s a dealbreaker it’s a dealbreaker. Conversely if it’s not then act like it didn’t happen and let it go.

In between are issues. If an issue such as continuous disrespect becomes big enough you’re reassessing her value; then do so. At the end of the day if she can’t follow your lead; she’s unworthy of you.

Godspeed and good luck!

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[–]ironrape122 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Damn, so you’re saying that you can get another turn? As long as you’re patient?

[–]MysticalMike199018 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah ding dong, just don't hold your breath at the same time. You might asphyxiate and then shove off this mortal coil before you get your turn again

[–]tudor0711 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

It sounds like horrible advice

[–]TheDeadlyZebra0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree that it probably won't work out, but there's at least 5% chance of this working.

Of course, if OP takes her back, he's only proving that he's a little bitch, but that's his life

[–]_the_shape_0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yes, he should slam shut, pave over the door with cement, and be done with this one forever.

Any "advice" suggesting he 'play it cool' or 'give it some time' or go no contact for a short period time as a tactic to reel her back is completely neglecting or hamstering how she's (continuously) spit in OP's face as something forgivable, as if this girl was one of the very few women left in the World, and this degree of disrespect ought to be accepted because, you know, vagina reasons.

In short, it's like asking: "how can I be a smooth playa while, at my core, remaining a doormat of a little bitch at the same time?"

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[–]Tractor_Sunpower0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So situation is that LTR was very bad. The only way to proceed it to cut the losses, the fastest as well.

But then I feel it is kind of out of the box thinking, although I used SOME of it one way or another just might not remember all stuff now.

I was going trough in my head lately about improvement of sorts of punishments.

  1. throwaway punishment. TP is very individual and ideally should be at the core of previous fight, misbehavior, the best something of sentimental / emotional value. Something that once taken, destroyed can not be brought back. Like favorite picture of grandma, also one of only 2 remaining.
  2. Only then BDSM punishment trough pleasure. I have this idea of threesome BDSM where she is being treated by other girl, but in your presence and on your command, so you not getting invested again but she does.

When you attempt nr 1 you do not say what is the next step. All you can say is: it is punishment for bad behavior & can't promise anything after complied with it.

Importantly it should be preceded by temp withdrawal and return of frame. Otherwise no reason to even start it.

Requests should be met in short time frame, no negotiations just silence.

She will likely test you and won't agree but can reach out again when you say bye then. Then it is time to ask for second grandma picture, something of even more ridiculous value. No more tries past that.

Looks bit harsh? I think if something is finished and you don't force anyone to do it, then free choice.

TP is instant investment/punishment that can't be taken back and has big forever value. It also shows you where are you at with LTR, if she doesn't want to invest it... Time to go.

Problem might be to find something TP worthy.

[–]cvbnjk0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

What should you do if she reaches out after 3 months or after 2 years? It might not be because she wants to get back together

It could just be a test to see if you're still interested in her or pining over her

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[–]cvbnjk0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

This happened to me once, where the girl broke up (by saying she needed a break since her father had just died - understandable), but in essence she abruptly broke up with me. I became a beta faggot by trying to plead and reason with her, which I'm sure hardened her decision all the more. Logic can't trump emotion

But I cut off contact, didn't say anything and she reached out after 3 months of blocking me. She unblocked me and then texted me. She agreed to meet (and to this day we only just met that one time after breakup) but basically I later found out she met me to try to give me closure and do me a favor (lol), not cuz she wanted to hookup or bang again. 2 months later she was with some other dude

So, yeah, positive sign if she wants to meetup but it's not a home run or grand slam she wants to fuck or get back together

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[–]cvbnjk0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I know that now, and that's what sucks in hindsight. I should've just said "ok" and not contacted her at all after that

I kind of cringe at the memory for a variety of reasons, but mostly because I clearly made the wrong moves which I only realize now.

Thanks for the advice mate. These lessons are very harsh

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. If you have abundance, this wouldn't even be a "decision" to make.
  2. She openly said she can do better than you.

If you go back to her now, prepare to be treated like dogshit until she dumps you. Not if but when.

[–]MotorsportEnthusiast44 points45 points  (0 children) | Copy

Time to dump her before she dumps you.

[–]nofappist14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

"you're lucky I'm not dumping you over this, I can do better"

I'm glad you listened to your gut. The relationship was already over, she just didn't have your replacement lined up yet.

[–]Musicgoon12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

She put a dagger right through the heart of your relationship. She lost respect for you. Hard next her so quickly that her head spins.

[–]BluzzKill11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

She can do better? Next!

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[–]TheDeadlyZebra2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

My ex-wife said some shit like this to me, but it was more like "my mom was right, I should have listened when she said you weren't good enough."

Despite my beta-oneitis over her, you could tell how that marriage turned out.

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[–]TheDeadlyZebra0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, much better. I moved to Vietnam since then. Now I'm with a chick that blows me everyday (for the past 6 months), but I think I just got her pregnant again, so we'll see where this rabbit hole goes.

[–]eatdiz13522 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

Losing frame or not it's probably safe to hazard a guess that she has these thoughts about "doing better".

Relationships aren't fucking easy, they take a lot of work. She's blowing up your phone right now because you're not in her orbit so her anxiety levels are through the roof.

If we're treating an LTR as a lifelong commitment I would seriously consider re-evaluating the relationship.

[–]Bruchibre7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

You've been lucky enough, time to let her find better. And find better for yourself.

If she thinks she's better than you and that you should be thankful to her for staying, you have nothing to do in this relationship. It's a way deeper problem than an argument or losing frame. You need to asses of she said that to be bitchy or if she really thinks it.

[–]notaselfdrivingcar7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

you're lucky I'm not dumping you over this, I can do better

Bruh, it's over.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

Recently the shit tests have been coming in harder and I started failing them, so naturally they get worse.

Your failure came way before she dropped the bomb, " you're lucky I'm not dumping you over this, I can do better". We've discussed this many times but you were on the path to her begging you to kill the puppy.

When women tend to become dissatisfied in the relationship they up the brattiness. They see you as failing to lead, they lose attraction, etc. So they start to treat you with contempt.

I dated a girl in college and towards the end of the relationship she became an cunt of the highest order. When I finally pulled the trigger and told her to fuck off it eventually came out, "I was mean to you because you were a good guy. I figured if I did that you would break up with me and I wouldn't feel so bad."

Seriously, that was her logic.

LTR game is a different animal. You have to be 100% always on. You have to date the girl you got before your LTR'd her all the time, not settle in with the girl after the LTR. So many men in the AskMRP side have this slow imperceptible slide into mediocrity. Ten years later they are fat, unattractive and not fun and wonder "why won't she fuck me/love me for who I am?" Because fatso she didn't sign up for that fucker.

Now, if you are 100% on your game all the time will she always be the girl you started dating? Who knows? Life is complicated. But if you are always demonstrating high value, always a higher value than she can attain elsewhere, if things don't look good in the relationship, it will be your choice to move on because of tangible reasons, not because she's being a bratty bitch. Even in an LTR you must always demonstrate abundance, you must build your life so that she is a compliment, that can be replaced if she no longer holds value.

[–]cvbnjk0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

When women tend to become dissatisfied in the relationship they up the brattiness. They see you as failing to lead, they lose attraction, etc. So they start to treat you with contempt.

How do you ensure women don't become dissatisfied to the point they are bratty? I'm reading NMMNG, but it's hard be mentally strong and disassociate my value as a man to her. I've gotten better but not there yet.

[–]alfred3111 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

By chasing your purpose in life, abundance, keeping in shape, not pedestalising her, eating healthy, dressing properly, haircut every week, not chasing her pussy, keeping your frame like do not give your mobile phone to her, do not play video games, by being unpredictable in everything you do

Personally i have my own secret house, thats where i bring my plate and at the same time my man cave where i just rest and be alone, of course you need to earn a lot to do this lifestyle so just work hard

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This is a good start u/cvbnjk. Keep in mind she already chose you. So don't make her regret why she did. Be the dude she chose. Her job is to keep up, not set the pace.

I'm older than most here. I see plenty of soccer moms complaining that their husband is a fat useless fuck who does nothing but annoy them. if you could look back 20 years and see pictures of them you'd see vacations in beautiful places and that they were good looking people. Do you think that woman is complaining about the guy in the picture?

Guys phone it in. They get married. Stop going to the gym. Start placating her for all her whims etc. Then they let their dreams slip, first putting if off a year, then maybe after the kids come, etc. She pops out a few kids, lets herself get fat, because hes's a fat fuck too so why not? Then you hear them sitting on the side of some soccer field complaining "My husband fucking annoys me. I wish he would travel all the time" Resenting the fact she got onboard the SS Mediocre on a ticket to nowhere.

Women should be a complement to your mission, not the focus of it. There can only be one captain.

[–]cvbnjk0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Hi /u/UEMcGill, thank you for the great advice, been dealing with a situation myself and trying to figure out next best steps for me. I've received some great advice from you and other a couple other sage TRP experts from some stuff I posted

You can read my post history if you'd like for the details. But trying to figure out what to do next and if I should go snooping around in her past/let her past get to me/take up my mind before committing fully to LTR. I'm afraid if I don't do that ("snoop" a bit), I'm going to find red flags too late, like a year down the line (and why waste a year?)

It's funny, I sincerely did not give a fk about her til just this past weekend, and now since I'm considering her for LTR, wondering if I'm making the right choice. We are quasi-LTR already

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's no such thing as wasting a year. There's making a decision with data. Sometimes you can make a decision with good data and have a good outcome. Sometimes it's a bad outcome and either you had all the data or incomplete data. If you've done everything right, made the right decisions and shit still goes sideways? Your job is not to lament time lost, but what you would've done differently knowing what you knew going into it.

Poker is said to be a game where you make the best decisions based on incomplete information. Make the best decisions over time and you will win. This is life. Learn to read the table and make the right decision based on the risk at hand and you'll leave the table with more than you started.

[–]pistola_papi13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can do better. You’re the prize.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

HARD NEXT.

Why do some of you on this sub put up with so much shit?

NEVER be afraid to walk away from a woman.

Have some damn respect for yourself.

[–]_the_shape_4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

The girl who brought me to TRP some time back now never said those exact words to my face, but other things she said and her overall behavior in the relationship amounted to the same thing (i.e. "I don't need this shit") Without question, the biggest L I've ever taken in the dating world.

Good to read that update that you ended it, but now you must enforce it too. It would behoove you to go no contact on this one for the sake of telling yourself that you "can do better". Don't be surprised if she tries to slip back into your life, just to see if she can get you to backpedal, so keep an eye out for any contact from her end. The Dead To Me Act of 2020 is what I'd firmly put in place if I were you, but take the wisdom, and leave her in the rearview until she vanishes completely.

[–]cvbnjk0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What should you do if she reaches out after 3 months or after 2 years? It might not be because she wants to get back together

It could just be a test to see if you're still interested in her or pining over her

[–]spcparks1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

In two years you better be fucking way hotter chicks because you raised your SMV and making way more money that you don’t have a second of time for this bitch.

She reaches out and you don’t give a shit because you are smashing way hotter and way more chicks and living your purpose.

She becomes a fading memory who had her chance and lost it.

In turn it will make her want it more and try harder but why would you care.

[–]cvbnjk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's the ideal response, and one that I see TRP advocate everywhere but...it's a very difficult state to achieve where as a man you're in that position. Make ton more money, much higher SMV, fucking way hotter girls. It's very difficult and it's only getting harder because girls have gone from being the selectors -> myspace -> facebook -> twitter/instagram/youtube -> patreon/onlyfans.

I mean the amt of messages and attention and validation they receive today is ridic, and the constant dopamine/seratonin levels is not something a normal guy can compete with

[–]Black JesusDerekMorganBAU4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just dropping by to say I appreciate you actually giving context unlike these other clowns that post vague shit

[–]DisastrousCounter4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

Hey you lost frame once, I CAN DO SO MUCH BETTER THEN YOU

[–]DetroitGangster6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Isn't that concept fucking wild? Lose frame ONE time with a chick and she might view you as beta forever. Happened with my last LTR. I made the mistake of opening up and becoming vulnerable because it felt like a natural thing to do with my "best friend". As soon as I did, she lost attraction and disrespect ramped up.

You REALLY need to be on your game CONSTANTLY in a LTR. I am so much happier being single and spinning plates. I can let any one of them go without hesitation.

[–]thesehoesaintloyal883 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s amazing how much a girl will attracted and fuck you silly when you don’t open up to them. As soon as you do though, the clock begins ticking on when she loses attraction.

[–]jrr6415sun1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Is there anyway back from this? I made the mistake of opening up and now I noticed her attraction is so much less.

[–]alfred3112 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Abundance, chasing your purpose, not giving much attention to her, lifting, dressing properly are some ways to reverse this

[–]2319Skew2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never argue with a woman

[–]ur8moms1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is relationship is likely gone though You did some damage control with NC. Demote to plate or next her

[–]Bone_Coat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I speak to her today, explain that what she said the day before was not okay and that I needed a few days of NC to re-evaluate the relationship. She's currently blowing up my phone on several messaging platforms apologizing profusely but I have only opened not responded.

you managed the situiation nicely, OP, thumbs up to you

[–]TheDeadlyZebra1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your edits have restored my faith in humanity.

It's always nice to see a happy ending

[–]gbnz872 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy

Ending a 1 year relationship over text is pretty harsh.

Dont worry about breaking frame. Everyone does it from time to time you cant be perfect every second of the day.

I would said "do it then" and told her to dump me. I think shes just bluffing and testing. Girls usually dont say stuff like that in my experience. They just go and break up with you when they are done. I know you see stories of women hanging around in relationships being miserable and say they cant get out but ive yet to meet a woman who doesnt think twice about ending it when they want to.

[–]silvereddi5 points6 points  (11 children) | Copy

What’s harsh about that? Who the fuck cares what she feels about this? She needs to be dumped. And there is no need to protect her fEeLiNgS. She would do the same, even worse without feeling anything for you.

[–]gbnz87-1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy

Its not about feelings but you are completely obliterating any frame you have.

Sure you probably wont see this person again but you may cross paths, have a mutual friends, family or who knows what else a emotional woman can do. There is nothing wrong with being civil. It also shows you actually mean it and its done. He said his phone is lighting up and shes trying everything to open communication again, chances are she wouldnt be doing that if he did it in person from my experience.

It will probably make you feel better ending it with her and you can leave feeling much better knowing you dont have that ball and chain behind you anymore and you can potentially leave on a high. You dont have to be a shoulder to cry on nor do you need to discuss her feelings (its much better if you dont)

Also who cares what she would of done, we dont know her. All we know shes done is throw out a few shit tests (which every girl does) its not like shes cheated, stolen money or damaged property which require you to be a bit more ruthless.

[–]silvereddi3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy

Your hamster is spinning on high speed. Stop analyzing what could be better in terms of her. Women seek closure, men do NOT need it. 1 year is nothing and it doesn’t matter shit how he ends with her. He can even block her, it’s not important. With your logic a man who’s married for 30 years with his wife and she cheats on him or whatever and when he ends it he has to talk with her for hours since they have been together for so long and their families know each other? Lol. He has to do nothing to justify it or to make her feel good. That’s just bp thinking and you should read more into RP then.

[–]alfred3111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

On point man, closure is bullshit, its just for girls pinning blame on you, move on and grieve on your own as a man, we dont need closure.

[–]gbnz870 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Did you read what I said. I said not to discuss feelings or anything really. You could give a short reasoning if you want but you don't have to discuss it.

I'm sure after a year this girl will likely have access to your friends and family. You don't know what she might share with them or do and make your life a mess trying to get you to talk to them.

I still feel breaking up in person (it only takes a couple of minutes) let's them know you are 100% serious and it is definite.

Text is so imprecise if anyone Ive known for a uear sent me a text saying they don't want to see me again I'd just think they are mad or joking. I also don't know what ops texts or relationship is like with this girl.

[–]silvereddi0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

What makes you think that she won’t destroy your personal life when breaking up in person? If she wants to fuck you up, she‘ll do either way. In person are way more problems that could come up since she’s in front of you. Harder to get away, easier for her to escalate and call the cops tell them you hurt her or raped her or whatever. Also you’re more likely to be trapped in endless discussions, her breaking down crying and begging you. No need for this drama, don’t you think?

[–]gbnz870 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Sure they can still do things even if you break up in person but right now this girl is trying to contact him through multiple ways and its only a matter of time she contacts his friends or family to get his attention. I have no idea what OP actually texted to break up but she obviously thinks hes just angry and wants to win him back.

I am just speaking from experience as I broke up with a girl after 2 years over text when I was about 20 and she phoned my mother and invited her to come around to her place and talk to her because her parents lived out of town, she was also just sitting on the steps outside my house when I came home one day. She didnt actually get it or stop until I just said it in person. It really isnt hard to do and it saves a lot of headaches.

Ive only had headaches with women who I break up with over text. The other women ive done it to have only been after a few dates so I dont feel it warranted anything else.

[–]silvereddi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I mean if you see each other often, sure, you can just tell her and leave. Don’t fall for her crying and excuses and promises. But if this bitch cheated on you or just doesn’t deserve any further closure, I’d send her a message and call it quits.

[–]Tractor_Sunpower0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

In person are way more problems that could come up since she’s in front of you.

Picking up only on this. Actually recording brake up, her begging etc etc would be better then not having it.

[–]silvereddi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why tho?

[–]gbnz870 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Did you read what I said. I said not to discuss feelings or anything really. You could give a short reasoning if you want but you don't have to discuss it.

I'm sure after a year this girl will likely have access to your friends and family. You don't know what she might share with them or do and make your life a mess trying to get you to talk to them.

I still feel breaking up in person (it only takes a couple of minutes) let's them know you are 100% serious and it is definite.

Text is so imprecise if anyone Ive known for a uear sent me a text saying they don't want to see me again I'd just think they are mad or joking. I also don't know what ops texts or relationship is like with this girl.

[–]alfred3111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men do not need closure, search closure is bullshit

Women forget you after a week and fuck the next dude who sees her vulnerability, they dont care about us and the more you talk to them the more they will blame you for everything

Just block, delete and cry for losing her in your own time. Forget about her

[–]HelloDearWorld2230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude you should totally next her. Massive disrespect.

[–]TheMoorNextDoor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She looked at you in a lower light, if anything I’d say leave her.

You could smash again just to let her know whose boss but after that’s said just dash.

[–]kclanton800 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

HARD NEXT!!!!

[–]rashnull0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Having the ability to walk away without any sense of remorse is your number 1 chip!

[–]Revere_Tha_MC0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"you're lucky I'm not dumping you over this, I can do better" I say just call it quits my dude. If you go back she's probably gonna assume she's put you in a lower position and you're afraid to lose her.

[–]metal92180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

OP IS A KING 🤴

[–]1MrTheFalcon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"you're lucky I'm not dumping you over this, I can do better"

It's over.

[–]BarbellsAndBicarb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

These comments are humorous but correct. Fuck that bitch. Any level of disrespect isn’t acceptable.

[–]Tambamwham0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She won’t miss a beat. Promise her behavior is fueled by another guy already in the picture

[–]Herdsengineers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Long story short at the end of the argument she says "you're lucky I'm not dumping you over this, I can do better".

I just texted her and ended the relationship. Just said that things weren't working out and that I wish her the best. Thanks for the input guys I had a gut feeling this one wasn't salvageable.

You might have screwed up from RP perspective at one point, but you handled the aftermath of that comment like a champ. I agree with the rest, if a girl says this, the relationship needs to be finished, and you needed to be the one to finish it, not wait around for her to get around to doing it.

Good job.

[–]Optionsmfd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

now that its over

re read rollos 9 iron rules

dont go through the garbage........ it smells

its not worth it............hopefully u dont have oneitis...... i had it for the first time and it led me to rational male and redpill........ good thing i didnt try and fix what was broken

[–]Vynxe-Vainglory0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Most of the dudes here are cringey and aspy as fuck.

This isn't instant hard next territory and other stupid shit. This is a fight. You lost frame? Get it back. She was disrespectful? Punish her.

Just demote her and keep fucking her with less relationship effort required. Train your body more, start gaming other women (if you don't already). Get some plates ready to spin. Tell her that you still want to see her, but due to her crossing the line, commitment is off the table for the time being. She took you for granted. You're not granted. She's profusely apologizing? Fantastic. Let her make it up to you. Let her know EXPLICITLY that she is there to make it up to you and you are graciously providing an opportunity, but BE FUNNY when doing this. Cheekily require more than she is probably willing to give. Make her prove how bad she wants it. Dangle the relationship carrot, and fuck the absolute shit out of her in the meantime. Enjoy this time until she gives up putting in so much effort. Put in precisely the amount of effort back that YOU WANT TO, but try not to exceed the golden ratio.

[–]stoicAce0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I mean sure but dude I think if she gets another guy in line she’d dump this dude for sure. She is just going crazy cause she doesn’t have options currently. I think he can NEXT her for sure. Wait for her to hit him up and then plate her. You make it look like spinning more plates is easy for him, then WHY THE FUCK SHOULD HE CARE ABOUT THIS ONE?

[–]VigilantSmartbomb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t think it “wasn’t salvageable” or whatever- it’s always salvageable, it’s just whether or not it’s advantageous to you.

She came back and learned her ways, make it sting so she learns her lesson but I don’t think you had to kick her from the ship unless there’s other issues.

Ultimately what she said was out of line, but the next one would have said the same thing. AWALT

You said your frame was slipping, what’s she “supposed” to do? Stick with you till you fix it?

That’s blue pill mentality, she puts herself first

The aim in breaking up with her is either because she’s really not worth your time, which it doesn’t seem like it, or if she doesn’t or couldn’t respect you and so you’re reclaiming your sense of self in doing so.

I don’t think either were a necessity but if it didn’t mean that much to you use value or not then so be it.

Point is, fix your frame or this will be a repeat.

[–]ay-fuh-q0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

LTR of a year is a overall good girl.

Don't preface with bullshit. You're lying to yourself.

Recently the shit tests have been coming in harder and I started failing them, so naturally they get worse.

Probably looking for a reason to dump you.

They started to get enough and I went a little bit BP and argued with her. Long story short at the end of the argument she says "you're lucky I'm not dumping you over this, I can do better". After this I lose frame and it turns into a full blown fight.

And there's the battle. She managed to break you. So dump her and show her you can do better.

I speak to her today, explain that what she said the day before was not okay and that I needed a few days of NC to re-evaluate the relationship. She's currently blowing up my phone on several messaging platforms apologizing profusely but I have only opened not responded.

Logic doesn't work on women. You might as well be explaining things to a 5 year old... or a wall.

I already know this story is filled with mistakes, I completely broke frame over this and I need work on that. In terms of the situation where I left myself, how should I proceed? Part of me feels like I fucked up and just start fresh.

Yeah, you fucked up, but.... I think she was either looking to end things or she wanted to change the balance of the relationship in her favor.

I dont just think I fucked up, I think what she says was completely disrespectful and I am considering leaving her completely and starting fresh with a new perspective.

And... it's good that you recognize it. I'm not sure what she said that was disrespectful but, if it was bad, and she felt comfortable enough to say it, that's got to be the end.

I just texted her and ended the relationship. Just said that things weren't working out and that I wish her the best. Thanks for the input guys I had a gut feeling this one wasn't salvageable.

Good move. Don't beat yourself up about where you failed. Learn from it. Move on. And good luck!

[–]MAGAorD1E-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have a friend who bitch slapped a woman for disrespect

And guess what? She stopped speaking to him like that

[–]MGTOWJulietSierra-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Can someone please explain to me what “losing frame” means here in this context? Also, what should the OP have done differently? Thank you.

[–]stoicAce1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you have an LTR and she feels okay to emotionally manipulate you



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