Due to the pandemic askTRP hasn't seen many bar/club Game questions lately. But with things opening back up in some locales, now is a good time to revisit the topic.

A few months ago, a user posted asking for advice on how he could do better at the club scene. I'll paste the first part of his post:

We’ll meet girls at the club, exchange numbers and shit and then hangout over the weekday. Doing stuff like volleyball, going on boat, or going for food and drinks.

It’s fun, but hasn’t resulted in banging for any of us. I don’t mind because I’m adding to my friend group and it’s all fun. Good social proof too.

What can I be doing instead to take these girls home and bang them (on first night meeting at club, and after exchanging numbers) I live about 20 minutes from downtown and most of the girls I meet also live far from downtown.

That’s one problem I have. Because meeting girls at a club, I’m that Fucking dude. But if I meet them and friends at the beach 2 days later on a weekday, it’s a different vibe, you know? Not super flirtatious. More friendly.

I will review exactly where this guy is going wrong, because I see the same mistakes repeated again and again in similar posts. These fatal errors are entirely the result of unexorcised Blue Pill conditioning, which I will explain.

Here I will describe exactly how to get laid in a club setting. My method is so easy that even the smartest software developer on the planet couldn't possibly overthink it.

What Women Want At the Club

Girls aren't at the club for conversation. Even if they could hear all about your latest engineering project over the music, they wouldn't give a shit. Doesn't matter if she goes to MIT or the local community college. Girls go to the club to drink, let loose with their girlfriends, and potentially find a hawt fun Alpha to have sex with.

At any club/dance bar you have a main dance floor, which is ringed by tables and bars. The latter areas are filled with Beta males in goofy plaid shirts standing around awkwardly drinking Bud Light. They watch the action and passively wait for something good to happen for them.

The main dance floor is packed with chicks, gays, and hawt fun club guys. Let's analyze that last group (inspiration taken from GayLubeOil's essay "Cynical Implementation" which I recommend).

Hawt Fun Club Guy is often dumb as a rock, which is why he's uniquely suited for the club setting. He doesn't have the capacity for intellectual conversation. He doesn't overthink the approach because he doesn't do much thinking in the first place. He's just there to party and have fun. He's a man of action.

He may not be the best dancer in the world. In fact, he might be terrible. But he's too stupid to know or care. He's just letting loose like the girls and gays. I personally know fuck all about dancing, that I can tell you. You wanna know what's worse than being a shitty dancer? Wading onto the dance floor with drink in hand, and just standing there like a dweeb. Might as well tattoo "NOT FUN" on your forehead.

Obviously in addition to being fun, you also have to be hot. That's why I call him Hawt Fun Club Guy. If you don't lift, groom, and dress well, then I don't know what to tell you other than stop reading right now and revisit the self-improvement section of the sidebar.

The Approach

Once you spot a group of hot girls that you'd like to have sex with, mosey your way on over. More experienced PUAs have written all about openers, which you can search out on your own. Honestly it doesn't matter what you say, she probably won't hear it anyway. All she sees is your vibe and what you look like. Again, Hawt Fun Club Guy.

At this point you might not even have to open, some girl from the group may invite you in. Other times you don't say anything, you lock eyes with her and you just know. It's difficult to describe. These are social cues that you pick up on with experience.

It goes without saying that if the body language signals rejection, you just rinse and repeat with some other group.

Getting Laid in 20 Minutes

So you found a cute girl and you're dancing with her. Maybe you leave the dance floor to go take a shot with her. She's clearly feeling it. Everything seems to be going so well for you.

Most guys drop the ball here. They're loss averse due to a scarcity mindset, so they don't risk making a serious move. They drag on the dancing way too long until she's sweaty and tired. They start making out with her on the dance floor, completely diffusing the sexual tension. They bring her into a corner to try to make conversation with her. And worst of all, they ask for her number and then just go away. I have to quote a now-deleted EC, because what he said is too good not to paste verbatim:

Talking is automatically in the female frame. Action is the male frame.

For the most part, when you are talking to a woman, especially one you have just met, if you are sitting there talking, you're in her frame. Period. And the longer you talk, the more disinterested she will get because the conversation is helping her learn more about you and take the mystery away.

All of this stupidity comes from Blue Pill conditioning - you have to "get to know her" and "build comfort" before she will have sex with you.

Utter horseshit.

All you have to do is interact with her on the dance floor for a short period of time before simply saying "Let's get out of here." She'll say goodbye to her friends, and you leave. That's it fellas, it's really that simple. I've never actually timed it, but I'm certain that this process takes no longer than 20 minutes. Obviously you have to have good logistics, which is covered in basic sidebar material.

Don't Dither

The more you drag on the interaction, the more you shoot yourself in the foot. Young girls just want to live in the moment. They crave spontaneity. Be a man of action.

Don't get her number and wait a few days to text her like the guy above. Women are emotional. They may be ready to go one night, but the next day they will be ice cold. Your window of opportunity is finite. Dither, and the opportunity will pass you by forever. Move quickly and decisively.

Obviously you don't have to be autistic about it. If she won't leave with you, then by all means grab her number and move on to the next one. If you encounter token soft resistance, e.g. she says something like "in a little while" then continue Gaming and try again in another 15-20 minutes. But really, make your intentions clear as soon as possible. It's all upside and no downside.

Don't be the guy who snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.

Timing

This approach works best when the energy is at its peak, say midnight - 1 A.M. Depends on nightlife in your city. Whatever the case, it probably won't work when the night is just getting started. Old school PUAs used to talk about heading to the club an hour before closing. I've done that myself with a large measure of success.

Going Solo

Many guys complain that they don't have any friends to go out with. Au contraire, I say that's a good thing.

When you go out with a big group, you aren't approachable. How many times have you been approached by girls when out with a bunch of friends? Probably not often. It's too intimidating for chicks. On the other hand, I'm often approached when I'm out alone or with one high SMV friend.

Social proof is irrelevant to the approach that I outline here. Again, all that matters is that you're hawt and fun. If she asks where your friends are (shit test), just say they stayed in tonight.

Additional Notes

  • Roosh and other PUAs emphasize not putting too much effort into groups of two girls. Most chicks aren't going to leave a friend totally alone. You also have the jealousy dynamic when you're trying to close a broad and her friend isn't getting any attention. Maybe some of you have had success with it, but I've always found it to be a waste of my time. Focus on groups of three or more girls.
  • Like I said, it's better to go solo if you just want to get laid. But if you do go out with friends, make sure your collective SMV is high. Many PUAs advise not to go out with Alphas and/or better-looking friends, but I've always found this to be totally counterproductive. Girls infer a lot about you from the company that you keep, because Alphas generally hang out with other Alphas.
  • Inevitably a few people will comment that I must be handsome for this to work. I won't deny that (Hawt Fun Club Guy), but I'd say that I'm no more than an SMV 7-8 on Looks alone. I'm average height (5'9" on a good day). But I have a decent sense of fashion, groom (stylish haircut and beard), and busted my ass in the weight room to get to this point. Those Black Pill faggots should just go suck a cock already, because that's all the action they're going to get.
  • I prefer vodka soda as my drink of choice, the main reason being that vodka doesn't smell strongly on one's breath.
  • Also, don't get drunk. Nothing more really needs to be said on that topic.

Conclusion

As Rollo has written, society is increasingly divided into sexual and non-sexual zones. Sexual zones are places like Tinder, the club, college parties, and travel destinations like Las Vegas, spring break locales, and cruise ships. Ain't nobody going to those places for the culture; they're going to have fun and potentially get laid.

Every guy has his own customized approach that works for him, but the same principles apply to all of these sexual zones. Be fun, be hawt, and move quickly and decisively. Most guys at least vaguely understand the first two, but the Blue Pill conditions them to move slowly and indecisively. If there was one thing that held me back in my pre-Red Pill days, it was this fallacy.

Many guys in askTRP have only partially unplugged with regard to women's feral nature. It is totally feasible, indeed common, for the hawt fun guy to go from meet to bang within the hour. She's in the club to get laid, so don't make this any more complicated than it has to be.