LTR admits to openly flirting with guys to “finesse free drinks” They love to claim their behavior as innocent. Should I next?

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Title LTR admits to openly flirting with guys to “finesse free drinks” They love to claim their behavior as innocent. Should I next?
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Date 06 January 2019 11:11 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]drugtofuck276 points277 points  (10 children) | Copy

She is with no doubt doing it to get free drinks... but with them ugly dudes. If she starts ''innocently'' flirting with Chad and sees that he is also interested in her by buying her a drink or maybe flirting back, what do you think will happen? Also why LTR a girl that goes to clubs/bars without you and gets drunk? Wtf?

[–]Eldudearino8988 points89 points  (4 children) | Copy

There will be a Chad there... time for a come to Jesus talk. Get your ass in shape for the rainy day coming.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yea flirting is flirting. It’s in her nature to upgrade if the opportunity presents itself. You can assume that if she disrespects your relationship and your intelligence to that degree you can expect the relationship to end sooner or later.

I’d keep her as a backup girl and consider yourself single... get out there and flirt with other women too!

[–]Eldudearino8913 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed 100%. Off she went. Oh well there's another one at the grocery store.

[–]Platos_slow_brother3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Get your ass in shape for the rainy day coming.

It is always raining. If you don't feel the rain, it is denial.

[–]Eldudearino891 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love it. Definitely true. Some days it's lighter than others then. How about that? haha

[–]The_Lightskin_Wonder4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not only that but , that same drink that got her into a Potentially bad situation is now lowering her inhibitions. It's dark, he's cute, the music silences her conscience, now what's an innocent kiss? Once she realizes she's in deep, it will be the same for Chad's dick. Because she already cheated .... Might as well follow through. Plus she feels bad for leading him on. He's such a good kisser - I mean guy, I couldn't say no.

[–]Thisismybot822 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why LTR a girl that goes to clubs/bars without you and gets drunk? Wtf?

Thirst, desperation, scarcity mentality...

Look, you ever listen to monster by 21 savage? You know the song that goes, "Power, the money and the fame make a monster, a monster".

In the example that is OP, we have the antithesis of that.

So it would go something like, "Scarcity, the hunger and the thirst make a beta, a beta."

[–]fuckboychadlmao1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Best anology 😂😂

[–]Andorli1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also why LTR a girl that goes to clubs/bars without you and gets drunk?


[–]throwawaybpdnpd117 points118 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fine for a plate, horrible for LTR

[–]YNGBLOOD13[S] 191 points192 points  (19 children) | Copy

It baffles me that they try to justify their behavior as innocent. Game recognizes game. I’m not stupid. I Nexted. Always have self worth. I’ll be heading to Krav Maga later and hitting the gym.

[–]sosex199299 points100 points  (12 children) | Copy

Bravo!! even though we’re strangers, I feel proud of you man.


[–]YNGBLOOD13[S] 54 points55 points  (11 children) | Copy

Appreciate you immensely man. Cheers

[–]WithItOrOnIt10 points11 points  (10 children) | Copy

Damn. How did you sort this out? Congrats

[–]YNGBLOOD13[S] 38 points39 points  (9 children) | Copy

The main thing is to be cognizant of your emotions. You may have oneitis or “love her” , but you can never police a girls behavior. I told her that’s unacceptable in a monogamous relationship, I don’t care how you justify it. She called me immature and immediately I popped smoke and told her I’m not doing this anymore.

[–]WithItOrOnIt30 points31 points  (2 children) | Copy

She Calls you immature ? Haha some people are fascinating

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Are you new? This is super basic female shaming tactic. Do something that goes against her agenda, and get called insecure/immature/small-dick. Intersexual wars tactic 101.

[–]WithItOrOnIt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, but she's not even trying here, giving the context

[–]ghost_atlas7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well done. Also adding "pop smoke" to the vocabulary.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K184 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good work. So much self entitlement and justification on her end. What does she expect? You to say 'yeah, go advertise to other guys'.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Good shit. Any recommendations on fighting styles, was thinking of taking Muay Thai or BJJ. How’s Krav Maga?

[–]TFromThaSix5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

BJJ is great but do it because you enjoy it & or like doing competitions without risking shots to the face because taking the padded mats away and replacing it with cement changes the way you're able to effectively use your BJJ in the street. Muay Thai or any other standup art will benefit you much more in that respect although I still do both & love BJJ.

More importantly it depends on the quality of schools in your area not the art in particular. If you decide to do Krav Maga I'd suggest spending extra time really narrowing down a place that teaches it properly to ensure its legit and not just a "mcdojo" that sells a false sense of security more often than not. I see people trying to sell Krav Maga on the idea of being able to "end a confrontation in just 3 seconds!" Or "Use this move and stop anyone effortlessly". Practicing on the mats and using the art effectively in the street are two very different things. That goes for every style but Krav Maga moreso than others in my experience

[–]YNGBLOOD13[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know a lot of guys here are pro BJJ, but the thing I find very attractive about Krav Maga is that it’s sole message is to inflict as much damage as quickly as possible while sustaining as little damage as possible. I find that very badass, simply put. But I also am joining the IDF next fall and want to be apart of their Krav Maga competitions they hold between all the units.

Krav Maga training also simulates real world scenarios that I find very useful. Like getting jumped, 3 v 1, and so on. Makes the training more interesting.

[–]Platos_slow_brother0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

was thinking of taking Muay Thai or BJJ

Do both.

[–]vullnet12319 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yea man, me and my and my ex worked together, there was a customer who always came in and they'd chat, I'd talk with him, he was cool with everyone there. It was obvious he liked my ex, everyone knew he did. She'd ask and get mad when I'd say yes he did.

Anyway, one day he got her number. She told me about it. Got pissed when I said he likes her. One day I check her texts because I had a shitty feeling, and guess what I see, him flirting with her hardcore trying to get with her, and her playing innocent and dancing around the line of flirting/infidelity. So when I talk to her about it it's my fault for not trusting her.

Should've nexted her then but I was too pussy to do so.

[–]inittowinit77719 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

LMAO what a delusional bitch, she justifies her cheating by saying it’s your fault for not trusting her to be faithful? That is so childish, immature, illogical and yet standard female behavior.

[–]vullnet1237 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well I'm not sure she cheated, but I wouldn't doubt it. but he was hardcore flirting, trying to go on dates, joking about fucking, but its obviously my fault for not trusting her. No logic lol. I know better now.

[–]TheUnsteadyDonut2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well done man!

[–]FanaticMind1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]El_Serpiente_Roja1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good job can do better

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev30 points31 points  (4 children) | Copy

She's doing it for attention, validation and free cock.

[–]ovrload8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Free cock

betas who buy her free drinks and meals won’t give her cock

[–]fuckboychadlmao4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

But an alpha who buys her drinks will.

[–]TopOccasion291 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You'd be surprised even pathetic betas can get laid sometimes depending on how she feels in the moment.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh shit, you said ltr, that’s fine for a plate, very sketchy to ltr a girl like that.

Your looking for morals, and there’s clearly none there

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K1815 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. She is advertising herself to the sexual market. Doing her own thing completely. Plate material, not LTR

Downgrade to plate, and game other women. Or hard next completely.

[–]kfd_capital32 points33 points  (0 children) | Copy

Plate her, finesse for free blowjobs

[–]SupremeBBC41 points42 points  (9 children) | Copy

Honestly the fact she uses the word "finesse" in that modern millennial context is good enough reason to next.

[–]AtlasCuckd10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's dripping in finesse next time

[–]Psycholephant3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I fucking hate this trend too. Finesse used to mean doing something that was so skillful that you put your own style on it. Now it's just synonymous with tricking people because you're a terrible person.

[–]Thisismybot8-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

You know the old saying, "If she uses the word 'finesse', I'm finna next"

[–]iwanttoracecars0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Nice try

[–]Thisismybot80 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Try what? That's the saying.

[–]iwanttoracecars0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ok dad ;P

[–]Crixusgannicus27 points28 points  (5 children) | Copy

If you don't next, you ARE next.

[–]friendandadvisor2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Sir, you are a wordsmith of no mean talent!

[–]Crixusgannicus0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Thank you Sir!

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

No, sir-Thank YOU!

[–]thewobblywelder0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy


[–]ibhova0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I should be thanking you

[–]raj81888 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Vynxe-Vainglory6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Should have been a downgrade to plate imo, but you do you. Still not terrible that you nexted when she crossed your boundary with no remorse.

In reality, you’ll probably still get a chance to plate her when she comes knocking at your door to take her back.

[–]Memeandmesomemore19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Today she's flirting with them to get free drinks, tomorrow it'll be free dinner, then it'll be free whatever you can't provide, then it'll be fucking them to get even more.

Then you'll be the one who's been royally fucked over.

Dump. Next - whatever, just get rid of the bitch.

[–]kellykebab17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

Your long-term girlfriend is getting drunk without you and flirting with other dudes? What are you doing?

[–]YNGBLOOD13[S] 25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy

Excuse you, I nexted her.

[–]kellykebab10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Haha okay buddy

[–]red_matrix14 points15 points  (15 children) | Copy

Don't next...almost all women do this, it's the men buying drinks that are idiots. Also, the guys buying women drinks are loser betas she'd never sleep with.

[–]LukeVTruth8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

I agree with your general premise that the men buying her drinks are wasting their time and she likely isn’t fucking any of them but I still find it disrespectful to say that you openly flirt with other men to get free drinks to someone you’re in a relationship with. This is the type of shit test I’d expect to receive from a plate but coming from an LTR is just disrespectful.

[–]red_matrix9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I didn't see the part of her being LTR...if she's admitting she's flirting with other guys yeesh...sounds like she's looking and willing to trade up for a better model. Be careful.

[–]Velebit-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Flirtatious women are problematic.

[–]Velebit0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy

If you genuinely think even as high as 10% of women chat up guys to get free stuff, you are crazy.

A person who does that must be low neuroticism (rare in women and means her perception of danger is low), high in extraversion, and low in conscienceousness (which is rarer in women then in men).

[–]red_matrix-1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy

Lol almost all girls do this, they even joke about it. My ex uses to tell me how her and her friends would make fun of guys that did this. There’s a reason women keep going back to clubs every weekend.

[–]Freedom__Fighter1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And it’s not because they worked hard all week and have extra cash to spend

[–]Velebit-2 points-1 points  (8 children) | Copy

That is simply wrong. It is also quite retarded to learn that is some countries it is considered default that men buy women stuff on proper dates.

I feel pitty for you westerners. Fucking alpha male strategies keeps telling how he pays for dates.

People live in bubbles. Those who smoke weed usually think 'most people smoke weed', people who are promiscuous think that is normal while the average number of sex partners in a lifetime is below 10 and gen x is the most promiscuous in history of Earth, Muslims who live in Muslim nogo zones in UK think England is majority Muslim.

People have bias and a sick lack of self awareness. Those who are bad at math and statistics should be second rate citizens and barred for public life, jobs with power and voting.

If you don't have a thorough understanding of human behavior, psychological traits that lead to certain situations and how frequent and rare relevant stats are you are useless to humanity.

No, most women do not do that. You just happen to be normalized into a scummy social bubble.

[–]red_matrix0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Lol! Lots of women do this, especially on the fem-centric west. And they openly mock men that do behind their backs. Go to any bar or club on the weekend and you’ll see girls doing this - they don’t all do it all the time. But they’ve all done this at some point in their early 20s (when they are used to getting lots of freebies). You sound like your still in the red pill rage mode. Get over it.

[–]Velebit-2 points-1 points  (6 children) | Copy

You are a normie man and lack the iq to get into your head that you are not normal and people you hang around with (and who they hang around with) are an unusual bunch of selfselecting circlejerk nasty people.

Kinda like people who vote/didn't vote for Trump and can't wrap their head around half the voters voting the other way.

Remember all the leftist media who said Clinton wins by 99% chance. Those people, like you, are in a fucking bubble. Their families are leftist, their friends are leftist, people their friends hang out with are leftist... whoever they meet and might vote for Trump, they just don't vibe with exactly because the minds of those people do not work like theirs.

How many church going accountants do you know? Yeah.

[–]red_matrix0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy I understand why you can’t get laid, but - what are you doing about it? It’s kind of making you crazy. You need to work on that. It’s not healthy to stay in red pill rage mode for a long time.

[–]Velebit-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

None of that is an argument. You are sadly too stupid to reason with.

[–]red_matrix0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Nice trolling. Hopefully you stop buying drinks for girls.

[–]Velebit1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

NPC generic 'comebacks'


[–]ohRyZze3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn so proud of you that you had the courage to next!!

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tell her to stop acting like a single chick or become a single chick.

She is probably a great friend, lets be friends is the line if she's not cool with it. She's not ready for an LTR till she doesn't want to be without you intoxicated.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's a shitty person anyway.

Sounds like plate material, but LTR? yuck.

[–]A_solo_tripper1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Up to you. Just know that most many girls do this.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Next her, but also realize this is the true intention of any girl.

[–]GiraffeOnWheels1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know a girl that legitimately does this “innocently”. I mean it’s still a bitch move but she use to be fat and likes getting betas to buy her shit now. Doesn’t mean she’s trying to hook up with them. I wouldn’t LTR with a girl that is that desperate for validation.

[–]plxxx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Correct me if this is not the red pill way. But I would make it a 100% clear that the behaviour is not acceptable. Don’t have explain why (DEER). She continues this sort of behaviour I would NEXT her.

[–]PM_Me_Fuhrer_Memes1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is she doing this while you are together or admitting to have done it in the past?

If it’s current, you shouldn’t even be asking this man, obviously if she does this she doesn’t respect you and that behavior is totally unacceptable. Use your head dude (the one on top of your neck, not the one on your dick), it’s a massive red flag. If a girl really likes you and sees you as someone worthwhile she would NOT even entertain this idea.

If it’s in the past, that’s still trashy behavior and not a sign of a quality girl. Next her, find someone with with at least some dignity, and simultaneously preserve yours by not letting hoes that go out to bars waste your time.

Take a step back and look at it this way - a girl admitting that behavior to a guy with any sort of decent self confidence/self respect should normally be an extremely embarrassing thing to do. Her openly admitting that behavior to you says she doesn’t like you enough to be embarrassed about that, because she doesn’t see you as quality and as having enough value to find someone else who DOESN’T act that way.

Additionally, staying with her would PROVE that she is correct in assuming that you are not quality enough/have enough options to weed out girls with trashy behavior like that.

Edit: also be happy she’s admitting to you now that she’s trashy and not LTR material. It’s better to know now than have her keep it from you and find out in a worse way

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah, just be on your toes.

Could help you out to tell her to do it in public, you or her gets free drinks and you still get laid.

I’ve seen it in action.

[–]kelticslob1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Tell her to ask for a [your drink of choice] and get you one. My buddy used to do this all the time with his ltr. Not a big deal.

[–]dpgproductions7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is if she’s doing it while he’s not around

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds to me like she’s openly admitting what every other one tries to keep a secret. she is no different, she’s only vocal about it. as with all the others, enjoy her while it lasts.

[–]Readdeo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Make her get two drink, and bring one to you. Probably she will enjoy stepping up the "game".

[–]1walawalawa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women lie. She's testing you. I had this situation with a plate so I really didn't give it much thought. But of course she ended up having a meltdown in a bid to bang one of these guys and trying to blame me for her running off.
When I just ghosted her it only re-enforced that the stupid plan to get me to chase failed and she was left banging some loser to spite me. haha.

I digress. Yes you should dump her but not for the reasons you think. You should dump her because she's not worth your time and it will only drag you down dealing with the ongoing drama as a result of this.

Yes, it's going to suck for a while but dumping her will be a major wake-up call. You may even plate her while you bang girls who DON"T act like this.

[–]NiceTryDisaster0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why are you in a LTR with a girl who doesn't mind selling herself out for free alcohol?

[–]herrLitschka0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No drama now after you nexted her? She just accepted it?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

wait your LTR is going to bars without you? why?


[–]Thinkingard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I feel like there is a lot of context missing from this question. Does this happen when you are with her? Does it happen when she's at the bar waiting to meet up with you? Does it happen when she's out for girls' night? Something obviously doesn't sit well with you by how she admitted this, and I'm guessing it's the flirting bit. A ton of women who like to drink do this, and you will know how serious she is with you if she admits she turns them down. Basically, if you feel in your gut to next her, go and do so, the gut is rarely wrong. This girl won't change, either. The kind of woman who accepts free drinks and is possibly LTR material is also the kind who doesn't flirt when it happens.

[–]YNGBLOOD13[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

To be honest guys, women are too much of a headache for me to invest too much into them. I really don’t care. I will find another women probably later today.

I do appreciate this community a lot. It’s very reassuring to have a red pill lens and each other to talk to and support. One of the more valuable things in my life.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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