"Where are all the good men?"

Bryntyr · 2017-10-06T18:52:59+00:00

I am a guy and I see a lot of overlap between the "why cant I find a non-thot girl" and the "why cant I find a good guy" crowds.

neither group wants to admit that the problem is them.
neither group wants to improve themselves in any way.
neither group wants to realize what is and isn't in their league.

fat dumpy 40 year old women like to think that just around the corner is a handsome trad guy just waiting for them to give up the whorish lifestyle.

The same with dumpy 40 year old guys, they never want to admit that no woman is looking for a obese gamer that spends most of his time bitching and drinking mountain dew.

SouthernAthena · 2017-10-06T15:17:22+00:00

My favorite: If you can't handle me at my worst..

TheLaughingRhino · 2017-10-08T18:26:36+00:00

If a woman does not

A) Find you physically attractive to the point of actual lust

AND

B) Believe you are the best man she's ever met and she will ever find, no doubt

AND

C) "Respect" you

Then it's over. It's over before it's even begun. People talk about Love and Communication, I'm not saying those things are not important, I am saying however that without Lust and Respect, pretty much any modern relationship is IMHO dead in the water.

When a woman says "Where are all the good men" What she likely means is -

Where are the men with the positive traits I want out of the very very very select few men that I find physically attractive.

The mistake many guys make is saying to themselves - Wait, I'm a "good man" I work hard, I'm loyal, I am kind. I have a big heart, and on and on and on.

This is the basis of the Apex Fallacy. Men think she's talking about ALL MEN, when if you are not in the small range of men she finds attractive, then you don't, sadly, qualify as a "man" You are just there. A blob of sorts.

When men at TRP say, AWALT ( i.e. All Women Are Like That), in many ways, this is only referring to the women they find attractive. No one cares, man or woman, in the dating game, about people they don't find attractive.

Both sides are competing for the same narrow small pool of "desirable people" against a typical social baseline. Men's ranges are wider because men don't control sex. Women's ranges, IMHO are infinitely narrow in general. I'm not saying there is not a range, I am saying though that there is clearly an "archetype"

Lots of people "settle", either in reality ( their SMV means they could get a higher SMV mate) or in perception ( their actual SMV means they got about as much as they were practically going to get) You never want someone to settle for you if they feel that way, if it's the truth or not. Most people, sadly, either settle or perceive they settle.

If you aren't someone's "first choice" then walk. If someone tells you that you will never be their first choice, they are doing you a massive favor by not wasting your time any further.

Where many men get angry is that they do often get their time wasted.

The BIGGEST MISTAKE that most men make is hearing a woman say something like this and taking it literally or at face value. Women simply communicate differently than most men do. Most men don't get that how most women actually communicate would likely get them fired from most mainstream jobs. Men communicate often how they would in the workplace. Most men don't understand the difference to women , i.e the idea that "That is work, this is different" To men, omission is a sin. If you know it, and don't say it, that's a problem. With most women, it's different. If they know you like them badly, and you keep buying them gifts, and you finally say, " I really like you", she will likely say, "I didn't know, you didn't tell me" Thus the act of not telling her means she's not accountable for any action by you that was "your choice"

If you ask me, one of the enduring hardest "pills" that I think this sub tries to instill in most women is the idea of basic empathy for men in general.

Once a guy understands "how" most women communicate, then the confusion tends to end. Anger might be there, but the confusion is no longer part of the equation.

Most people are competing for pretty much the same thing every one else wants. No wonder most people are miserable out there in the dating world.

[deleted] · 2017-10-07T15:27:29+00:00

I've actually given similar advice, before, to a woman who was feeling restless. I recommended she browse Plenty of Fish and look at the men who are actually available at her age, see the dating market for what it was. She reported that it helped a great deal.

Whisper · 2017-10-07T07:22:17+00:00

Why can't I find a girl who isn't a ho?

Because they settled down with men who are more attractive than you.

Why can't I find a commitment-minded man?

Because you don't inspire commitment-mindedness in the men you meet.

Why can't I find a man who isn't an unemployed loser?

Because you are low-class, trashy, and unfeminine.

Why don't pretty girls want me?

Because you don't lift.

Why don't hot guys want me?

Because you are fat.

Why are all these men intimidated by my PhD and strong confident personality?

They are repulsed by your unfeminine, combative personality.

Why don't girls see what a nice, caring man I am?

They are not stupid enough to mistake your weakness for benevolence.

How come all the men I meet are players who just try to use me for sex?

Because you bring out the player in them by not having anything to offer besides a warm hole.

How come on the women I meet are frigid gold-diggers?

Because you don't turn them on.

Why is having a relationship so hard these days?

Because your mommy and daddy were stupid Boomer ex-hippies who taught you that masculinity, femininity, and sex roles were bad things.

And because you were dumb enough to listen.

[deleted] · 2017-10-06T15:22:09+00:00

That's a good find. I'm surprised I didn't know about that one already.

BewareTheOldMan · 2017-10-07T01:03:47+00:00

Where are all the good men?

The default response to this question: ALL the Good Men are out looking for virgins who are ready to be GREAT wives and EXCEPTIONAL mothers...

batting4fireflies · 2017-10-07T01:11:21+00:00

This is gold. Thanks for posting. My SO and I had a great time browsing together!

ElfFey · 2017-10-06T22:14:07+00:00

Wow that forum is...disgusting. I agree with you though about 49-yo single mom being interesting as a case study. But again, she isn't the norm and from her profile, you can tell she is from an extremely poor/disadvantaged background.

I don't know, I can never really get behind this type of forum, because it seems so out of touch with how SMP works. I don't point out overweight nerdy men I run into on dating apps writing things like "LOL incel you're probably a virgin HAHA!" Why do these guys point at women who are in a hopelessly different category than them when it comes to dating.

A lot of the comments from the guys seem exceptionally clueless: some of those women are obviously prostitutes or sex workers "I need $100 to make my rent!" but the comments make it sound like the guys don't realize that?

It's not even comparable to look at a woman selling sex and say she is "bating" men and the guy giving her money a cuck...I mean, that's not really how that exchange works, lol.

I dunno, these guys seem to have not even figured out that women trade their looks for men's money and status...is that not red pill 101?

GaeaResurrected · 2017-10-06T16:34:10+00:00

The fact that they think it's a good idea to make an ad for themselves is part of the reason they can't find good men.

Title	"Where are all the good men?"
Author	Rivkariver
Upvotes	66
Comments	43
Date	October 6, 2017 2:35 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
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