Has TRP ruined music for you?

kxb220 · 2015-06-08T18:35:59+00:00

I thought I was the only one. They all sound like a bunch of whiners now. It just annoys the shit out of me.

fnordsnord · 2015-06-09T05:28:43+00:00

Only love songs.

tepper2 · 2015-06-08T19:30:37+00:00

I used to love bands like Breaking Benjamin, Young Guns, Seether

And nothing of value was lost.

cleftscout · 2015-06-08T20:31:32+00:00

No. Sometimes music can be a form of escape and enjoyment. If I want to escape to a fantasy land where I am reminded of the love I have towards my unicorn when I hear a song, I am able to experience that. That does not mean I carry these feelings over into the real world. I don't label feelings "alpha" or "beta". Feelings are neither. Actions are what count. If you're analyzing which things are "beta" and "alpha", you're just following dogma, not your own compass in life.

Whisper · 2015-06-08T20:04:35+00:00

It did for a while. But I'm no longer afraid of acting beta.

It doesn't bother me to hear about betas, or hear betas, because that's never going to be me.

Test yourself. Listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eheFYJh0mVs.

If it bothers you, you are most likely identifying with the singer, afraid of going back to being that. If you feel a surge of joy when you hear the last verse, then you know that you NOW it's talking about you. And you have become comfortable in your own skin.

When you're no longer afraid of being beta, you can listen to the most weak, beta, cringeworthy shit imaginable, and feel nothing but perhaps some pity for the poor misguided bastard.

RPAlternate42 · 2015-06-08T19:06:45+00:00

Absolutely not... Meghan Trainor is the best!!

/s so hard.

RatherDieStanding · 2015-06-08T20:54:29+00:00

Sam Smith is dead to me.

itsxeno · Mon Jun 8 19:22:05 2015 UTC

As a hip-hop native, not really. A lot of it is pro-TRP.

ProjectShamrock · 2015-06-08T18:59:40+00:00

Yes and no. I'm mainly interested in the "music" and not the lyrics, but even the lyrics take place in a fantasy scenario where the artist gets to share their emotions in an exaggerated state. In some cases, songs going to absurd levels of weakness can help you realize how you may relate to that weakness to a lesser degree and improve your life.

One of my favorite bands is Muse -- featured on the Twilight movies, have songs about failed relationships and oppressive governments. Even their most aggressive songs are still passive in many ways, but it's great music. The song "Citizen Erased" is really one long prog-rock whine, but it's one of my favorite songs of all time.

As others have said, sure, love songs are kind of ruined for me but most dudes don't listen to many of them anyway.

benediction_in_mind · 2015-06-08T18:59:57+00:00

Nope. I listen to electronic music and ambient (deep house, bass, IDM, progressive trance, etc) and love it. Lyrics are for pussies.

RiseAboveRuin · 2015-06-08T18:35:27+00:00

Yes. Yes yes yes.

Add Staind and Linkin Park to the list of shit I can't believe I actually related and listened to.

[deleted] · 2015-06-08T19:05:04+00:00

No, thank god. All the music I listen to outside of hip hop (mostly love songs) is usually the most beta shit a person can write but I still love it. The only time I can be a complete faggot and feel alright about it is when I'm listening to music.

Humankeg · 2015-06-08T20:48:39+00:00

TV, music, movies, magazine stories... All of it has changed.

Now when I see a joke on a TV sitcom or movie all I can think about is the way it demasculates men. Its so rampart in today's society too. Everybody Loves Raymond is a goldmine on how a man should not act or be treated in a relationship (he is verbally, emotionally, and physically abused by his wife Deborah) and yet it is comedy to watch a man be pushed into a book shelf and laughed at.

jason-funk · 2015-06-09T04:56:33+00:00

y'all need more hatebreed in your lives

[deleted] · 2015-06-09T01:43:01+00:00

Turning sixteen ruined those bands for me.

markfeel · 2015-06-08T19:09:28+00:00

I mostly listen to death/black metal bands who write lyrics about hatred these days.

Hamilton5M · 2015-06-08T21:09:17+00:00

This is the blue pill national anthem.

tino125 · 2015-06-08T20:26:07+00:00

Meh, not at all. I listen to electronic music (trance, progressive house). Some of it has cheesy lyrics, but 1. that doesn't bother me and 2. half the time I'm not listening to it for the lyrics, but for the driving beat and uplifting melody.

I'm all about the uplifting, feel-good shit. One of my recent favorites, and a great gym tune.

Nicky Romero vs. Volt & State - Warriors

DwightWolftail · 2015-06-08T20:26:23+00:00

Coincidentally , I was thinking of this today . Yes it has ... But at least I mostly listen to classical and soundtracks . When I was younger I used to listen to scorpions , linkin park , oasis and this shit is so fucking beta ...

leftajar · 2015-06-08T20:03:09+00:00

Only music made by blacks is redpill these days.

Chocotop · 2015-06-08T20:55:23+00:00

Yes, it definitely has. I dont relate to love songs or atleast dont like hearing them. Songs about personal struggle, I still relate to because as a man youre problems are yours and yours alone. Music is my 'orbiter' that keeps me strong.

tuxedoburrito · 2015-06-08T21:18:09+00:00

You should start listening to some good metalcore, that stuff will toughen you up. Or hardcore. It's full of alpha lyrics.

some good hardcore punk bands: Comeback Kid. Have Heart. Ceremony. The Ghost Inside

some good metalcore bands: Oh Sleeper. Mouth of the South. Beartooth. Whitechapel.

It's not even that their lyrics aren't beta, it's just alpha lyrics NOT about women. It's great.

[deleted] · 2015-06-08T21:27:06+00:00

Right now, a good portion of the music that I listen to is in a language that I don't understand because just about everything here in the United States bleeds Blue like Hell. Not to mention some French rap has some pretty sick beats.

[deleted] · 2015-06-08T21:35:25+00:00

I used to love bands like Breaking Benjamin, Young Guns, Seether

Not liking this kind of shit is called becoming an adult, fortunately there's lots of music adults can listen to

[deleted] · 2015-06-08T21:56:11+00:00

Naw man. Hasn't ruined movies for me either. In fact, I daresay I enjoy it all more now that I constantly recognize RP/BP themes stemming from almost everything. I appreciate understanding, because often times it's full of reminders of the things I already know, and I am still able to enjoy it for what it is. It's kinda surprising to hear you say this - it's something I'd never considered before. Then again, I've been a guitarist for 20 years and I've grown to understand and love music too much for anything to ruin it for me.

OzzyGangrel · 2015-06-08T22:19:51+00:00

try to listen to some Danzig

[deleted] · 2015-06-08T22:22:00+00:00

Well, for like 70% of today "top hits" are nothing more then bunch of faggots lyrics. Did anyone of you heard song "magic-rude"? Omg, just that!

87GNX · 2015-06-08T23:01:16+00:00

TRP has ruined a lot of male vocalists for me.

TRP has, strangely, made a number of female vocalists less annoying. Instead of "oh this bitch won't stop blathering on about this dude" it's just cute, like, girls gonna girl.

WillWorkForLTC · 2015-06-08T23:57:18+00:00

Check out the Cribs. Ryan Jarman (guitarist+vocals) has gone full monk mode after losing plenty of friends and family to his illness. Gary (bass+vocals) his identical twin is pissed off BP at the denial anger stage. Their little brother Ross on the drums is a badass and you can tell he is a player. It's interesting to hear the lyrics change from angst to anger to desperation then acceptance as they released albums since 2001.

Probably one of the most underappreciated bands in the UK right now. If you like The Pixies, 60' garage rock sound, alt. Rock they are a superb band to get into. They single handedly invented the style of mid-fi rock. Check em out.

Here is one of their better tracks. This is an interpretation of the lyrics: I think that it's an ironic satire of the way women view men. Jarman is mocking the excuses women make up to use in order to dump men, that they've only gone for in the first place because they're in a bad state and are effectively using them.

Their lyrics are almost always tongue in cheek. Enjoy!

Edit: This song has more commercial value. Their mid-fi stuff comes later.

thefisherman1961 · 2015-06-09T00:15:12+00:00

Groups like AC/DC are pretty Red Pill, and they are one of the most successful acts of all time. Coincidence?

jbaum303 · 2015-06-09T00:17:13+00:00

You might like rap music more. They are brutally honest about women, and their intentions for them.

seiken287 · 2015-06-09T02:03:27+00:00

Yep. Can only listen to rap and hip hop

Johnny10toes · 2015-06-09T03:28:57+00:00

I've never been so aware of the lyrics to songs as I am now, it is really annoying. I really don't want to have to analyze every fing song's lyrics, but I can't help myself. Doesn't really matter if its alpha or beta... I just want to enjoy the song.

But yeah... That is why I enjoy Post-Rock now, no lyrics.

Also I feel like lyrics made less sense when I was younger. It was more metaphorical and also it was more difficult to tell what they were saying until you've listened to it many many times. When you are a kid you never know wtf they are talking about. You just love the sound. Wish I could recapture that.

On the other hand, I've never enjoyed so many different genre's as I do now. I'm fully engaged in everything from oldies to pop to metal to punk to emo to hip hop to edm.

[deleted] · 2015-06-09T05:24:56+00:00

Mainstream rap is RP as fuck, I don't care for the music but when I hear it in the gym I notice it.

[deleted] · 2015-06-09T05:47:52+00:00

I only really listen to death metal, so not for me, no.

RealityTunnelBob · 2015-06-09T06:48:36+00:00

No fucking way! I listen to Death Metal.

[deleted] · 2015-06-09T07:20:23+00:00

I'm a musician and I've been singing these blue pill songs for years. Once I turned red I found it hard to relate to all the songs I was singing. I'm now able to focus on the emotions the singers are feeling now and not so much the reasons.

I find songs that are red way more enjoyable. I suggest you all listen to "The Weeknd". He's red as fuck.

[deleted] · 2015-06-09T09:29:55+00:00

Same here man. I am now totally devoted to power metal. The strange thing is that i used to hate it back in the day !

Hammerfall, Gamma ray, Judas Priest etc.. I have a full list. Yet power metal seems to be dying out which makes me incredibly sad as i can't losten to the same songs forever.

RichieFinn · 2015-06-09T10:38:03+00:00

You should listen to an R&B singer called The Weeknd.

Anyone familiar with his shit knows what im talking about. Has some beta songs about love but usually the moral of the story is hes out fucking new bitches now you had your chance hoe.

Simply put my favorite line of his " I dont care about you, why you worried about me"

dmystery · 2015-06-08T19:54:54+00:00

Almost definately yes. Ellie Goulding/Taylor Swift stuff? Heck no.

I find it hilarious though how many college girls will go from the FemSoc StarBetaBucks™ meet n' greets to twerking/grinding to MajorLazer a few hours later.

I'm not too sure where Classical music lies though? Thoughts anyone else?

noobster_2020 · 2015-06-08T19:01:12+00:00

I used to listen to those bands except Young guns but yea the music is annoying now.

nigmuh · 2015-06-08T19:14:19+00:00

Stay away from radio artists.

Myrpl · 2015-06-08T19:55:56+00:00

Oh fuck yes. Most of the songs I listen now are either instrumental or in some foreign language where I cannot tell what the lyrics say.

But that's not all. Once I detached myself from music, I began seeing things less... emotionally. I began recognizing when a TV "news show" is appealing to emotions with propaganda. I can read actions instead of words. Music is just a piece of the fake construction that fell apart.

That's how rare being a red piller is, when compared to the rest of the world.

walkingthelinux · 2015-06-08T20:19:09+00:00

Wow, so many times I thought about making this exact post.

Yes! My favorite band is Jeff Lynne's The Electric Light Orchestra and the love / relationship songs are beta as fuck.

So far I'm successfully ignoring it. At least he's being beta in an innovative and entertaining way. :)

mbillion · 2015-06-08T21:35:12+00:00

so you cant listen to emo blather anymore. Hell no man, there is a lot of really good music out there.

5850s · 2015-06-08T22:37:53+00:00

I was there too until I found actual good music.

check out the likes of elvis costello, stiff little fingers, jon astley, the pretenders, joy division, and you will not be disappointed.

NiceTryDisaster · 2015-06-08T23:24:14+00:00

Yes. I have a hard time explaining why because it would take a lot to write about though.

[deleted] · 2015-06-08T23:59:11+00:00

Made me like hip hop more.

People judging hip hop for not being deep enough barely understand the vibe of it, which is fine, I don't understand metal.

[deleted] · 2015-06-09T00:02:54+00:00

Some music, but you can always listen to music without lyrics. Jazz, classical, etc.

I also listen to metal, there's some great stuff out there if you expand your horizons.

thefisherman1961 · 2015-06-09T00:19:55+00:00

Most of the music I listen to is pretty Red Pill. The lyrics either are about plating, Red Pill relationships, or have nothing to do with women at all. Very little of it makes me cringe because of the singer is being a blue-pill beta with severe oneitis.

Overzealous_BlackGuy · 2015-06-09T00:32:47+00:00

I liste. To rap, so its scary to hear all the truths that get reiterated.

Listen to "thats my shit" by the dream. Story of beta bucks alpha fucks.

And any other rap song. These men arent lying. When you have what a women wants bitches just like any human being will grovel. When youre 1 in a million. Its a different world out there.

boscoist · 2015-06-09T01:47:14+00:00

I present a solution: Sabaton military history metal.. enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrJAwCBbnuc

[deleted] · 2015-06-09T02:11:00+00:00

I went from listening to classic rock, metal, heavier rocks, and pretty much anything involving a guitar and distortion to listening to primarily a combination of electronica, funk, and jazz.

Rock music is fucking depressing, except for those like nickelback who sing about how life is. I much prefer my peaceful melodic beats and gentle grooves to the pissed off anklebiter shit I used to listen to.

Leviticus59 · 2015-06-09T02:41:19+00:00

As a guy in my mid-50s I'm a big classic rock fan (early 70s to late 80s). I never listened to the lyrics too closely; it's the music itself I like, but the words do enter one's consciousness to some degree. That very thought hit me a while back-- mellow stuff in particular is all a bunch of sugary, blue pill slurpy beta-ness. Even the harder stuff is mostly blue pill. I was not aware of it, but I imagine it had an effect on my blue pill mindset, figuring that's the way the world worked, and thus, the way I should act.

ConfidenceMatters · 2015-06-09T11:51:14+00:00

Not only are those bands singing faggot shit, but pop-music these days, especially coming from female artist and urban artists (latinos mostly) are straight slut-enabling, hamster-fueling shitty examples that make me literally hope I never have a daughter.

And if I do, I'm drowning her in a river bruh smh

seethered · 2015-06-09T04:22:21+00:00

What about finding Feminism in the music you listen to?

The band for me was Protest the Hero. They have undeniable musicianship, but their lyrical content is what I started to question since seeing the red. Their first album was "Kezia". It is a concept album about a girl named Kezia who is oppressed from men. The album has a strong pro-feminist theme throughout. Continuing on that path, their next album "Fortress" is about goddess worship. Their latest albums "Scurrilous" and "Volition" have undertaken a more personal platform since Rody Walker started writing the lyrics. However, one of their latest songs "Plato's Tripartite" is revisiting their feminist views. Here are some interviews that further show Walker's standpoint:

Interview #1

Towards the end the lead singer discusses about not taking advantage of girls and sexually exploiting them.

Interview #2

Towards the middle, he talks about rape culture.

BoTuLoX · 2015-06-09T04:33:30+00:00

Try folk metal.

[deleted] · 2015-06-09T05:32:49+00:00

Yes and no for me. I grew up around the emo/pop punk scene and my god it is an easily offended and feminist minded genre. However, tons of really solid bands are on the come up and I enjoy them if not for nostalgia purposes. Lots of coming of age material coming out that I relate to at times.

Other than that I love hip hop so I'm not terribly devasted either.

0utlo · 2015-06-09T07:49:22+00:00

Who knows some good RP minded hip-hop artists ?

RedPillGold · 2015-06-09T10:11:21+00:00

A lot of metal & rock music is blue pill as fuck, I guess because most of the audience is blue pill as fuck.

Luckily, the EDM and hip-hop I listen to is normally neutral or Red Pill.

Johnny10toes · 2015-06-09T11:37:02+00:00

For a while. I still listen to it though. Check out Volbeat. It's got a pretty good story. The dude seems like a DT going through relationships.

Zaorish9 · 2015-06-09T11:42:06+00:00

Still love the Grateful Dead.

While the story teller speaks, a door within the fire creaks,

Suddenly flies open, and a girl is standing there

Eyes alight, with glowing hair, all that fancy paints as fair

She takes her fan and throws it in the lion's den

Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?

I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance

The sailor gave at least a try; the soldier, being much too wise,

Strategy was his strength, and not disaster

The sailor, coming out again, the lady fairly leapt at him

That's how it stands today. You decide if he was wise

David35207 · 2015-06-09T11:53:14+00:00

When I jam out to my bros Beethoven and Bach, there's no room for Beta

ArizonaAmerica · 2015-06-09T12:04:25+00:00

Mainly everything I listen to is pre 90's Rock, Metal, and Punk. Really no issues here.

I_HaveAHat · 2015-06-09T12:17:38+00:00

Same with me and tyler the creator and childish gambino. The good news is theres tons of alpha oldschool rap out there. Wu tang, biggie, nwa, ice cube, and so on. Hip hop is usually pretty alpha

dandar4600 · 2015-06-09T14:44:56+00:00

No, TRP has actually made me think more about the lyrics and understand the drive behind them a bit better. Listen to David Guetta (feat Nicky Minaj) hey Mama. Some great red pill stuff there like Captain - first mate relationship, her respecting him, him being the boss, her doing the cleaning, the cooking and giving it up to him when ever he needs it. The best is at the end when she sings about being on her knees to please him to be a lady and a freak.

TheRealMewt · 2015-06-09T15:29:20+00:00

Certain bands and songs I don't like because they sound too whiney about losing your oneitis and shit like that. Then again, lots of other songs aren't about losing your balls and I still like that kind of stuff.

I've grown to have a overall fonder appreciation for rap music, though.

teeelo · 2015-06-09T16:13:45+00:00

I wouldn't say it has RUINED it for me but I definitely get annoyed at the lyrics to some songs especially if the music isn't good. If the song is catchy enough I'll usually put up with it, but yeah a lot of the Blue Pill lyrics just fuelled my original Blue Pill outlook on life. Kept me believing in 'the right one'

Take 'Shut up and Dance' by Walk the Moon for example.

It's basically a song about the girl of your dreams coming on to YOU and taking charge. As if.

NiceTryDisaster · 2015-06-14T23:03:25+00:00

(Copy pasting a reply I just made on one of the posts on TRP)

I still listen to rap, hard rock and electronic occasionally but I am trying to decrease that as well. I feel music is like porn, to a certain extent. Terrible genres like pop, country etc are plain bad but even the better genres like rap and hard rock, although RP to a huge extent, are still bad. It makes you feel like you're the rapper or you're the rock star doing all those awesome things, feeling all those awesome feeling they feel but in reality you're just sitting like a brick with headphones plugged into your ears while browsing reddit and chatting with people.

Here is a good post titled "Avoid non-sexual porn. It's all around you" that I read on GetDisciplined

Have you ever cried during a movie or videogame? Maybe it was a book, or a song. Maybe you didn't cry. Maybe you got angry, or really happy, or felt pumped up. Sometimes you hear a song where the singer is bragging about their success and you almost feel like you're the one singing it, like you're on stage in front of a crowd. And then you turn on the sink and brush your teeth. I've decided to describe this sort of content as porn. Now, I know this isn't a unique thing. Plenty of people use porn inappropriately. Rage porn. Gore porn. Earth porn?. Yes, Earth porn. And I'll admit, it is a little unfair. The word "porn" has a negative connotation in our culture. Using it to describe something immediately implies that that thing is bad, seedy, maybe even fetishistic. And yes, that is what I'm implying.

What I'm implying it about is the pointless content we suck up all the time. The articles we read and documentaries we watch, designed to get us pissed off. The blog posts and autobiographies we read, designed to make us feel like winners. The love songs we hear and poems we read, designed to make us feel heartbroken. They're all quite bad for you, or at least in the doses you're consuming them. And if you want to get control over your life, you need to stop. Why are they bad?

Because they allow you to experience certain important aspects of life by proxy. Look at straight up pornography. It's not about observing two people having sex. It's about imagining what it's like to be one of the people having the sex. You want to be with an attractive and ravenous person right now, but you can't, so you watch someone else do it. And you enjoy not how good the sex is, but how good the sex must be.

I cannot stress that part enough. It's the sex by proxy that you love so much. And non-sex porn is the same. You read a feel-good story about a guy who climbs his way up from being homeless to being a millionaire, and you enjoy it because you want to feel like that. You want to feel that "I DID IT!!" moment. Like with sex-porn, you're focused on how good it must feel to be successful, because right now you can't experience how good it actually is to be successful.

That's dangerous. The urge to have sex at times when you cannot is very important. It makes you do things like buy new clothes, shave, take showers, and get haircuts. It makes you wonder what that other person thinks of you when you walk in the room. If that urge for sex was satisfied every time it came up, your participation in the mindless human mating dance would end, and so would your chances of real sex. Oops. Too much sex by proxy reduces real sex.

The same happens with success. You keep watching goddamn episodes of Shark Tank and reading the Steve Jobs biography and seeing blog posts about successful people being successful, and that scratches your itch every time you think "I'm so fucking tired of the way my life is right now." Your "I'm gonna do something about this!!!!" urge goes away, because it's satisfied by a blog post by Tim Ferriss about a guy who made a million dollars selling ear plugs (I'm only kinda kidding).

The author then goes on to talk about moderation and how everything is okay in moderation. But that's where I disagree with him.

Hence, I'm trying to get rid of listening music out of my life as much as possible. It's hard considering I was a wanna-be guitarist/rockstar and a music addict in the past but I'm trying.

Steve_Wiener · 2015-07-02T12:36:41+00:00

No, they always sucked.

chkethley · 2015-07-16T22:46:53+00:00

Nope. I've been listening to red pill music for a while and didn't even know it. Never listened to pop garbage.

[deleted] · 2015-07-28T07:21:23+00:00

"Now even though I went to college and dropped out of school quick I always had a Ph.D.: a Pretty Huge Dick" - Kanye

DwightWolftail · 2015-06-08T20:26:33+00:00

Coincidentally , I was thinking of this today . Yes it has ... But at least I mostly listen to classical and soundtracks . When I was younger I used to listen to scorpions , linkin park , oasis and this shit is so fucking beta ...

Pie_keeper · 2015-06-09T00:39:27+00:00

You want RP tunes, get into Nick Cave. Seriously, check this shit out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ0ohmx4kiM

RedPill4LYF · 2015-06-08T23:33:27+00:00

How did you honestly used to love any of those bands red pill or not?

Idontlikekarmawhores · 2015-06-09T10:19:23+00:00

Nope, i never listened to shitty bands like OP tho. But i can see rp in singers like Lana Del Rey and Die Antwoord

thechaosz · 2015-06-09T08:36:03+00:00

throw your ass in the tub bitch you stank

Title	Has TRP ruined music for you?
Author	CuntyMcFagNuts69
Upvotes	98
Comments	166
Date	08 June 2015 06:30 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	askTRP
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/74
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