Thought I found a unicorn and reality came crashing down...

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Last night was the third date with this amazingly cute 27 year old girl I met on Bumble. She seemed like a wholesome girl, considering she goes to church every week and loves working with children. We had tons in common and I really liked spending time with her. After a little bit of drinking she starts opening up about her past. I was thinking "no big deal, it can't be that bad"... First she mentions how she has a restraining order on her ex-boyfriend and how even though she found out he was married to a woman in another state, and was cheating on her with dudes, she thinks she may never find a connection to someone like she had with him. Then she mentions she thought she might be a lesbian, so she's been hooking up with her female friends lately. Then she mentions she's been in FFM and MMF threesomes, including a threesome between the guy she was dating and her most recent ex-boyfriend. Then she mentions there's a sex tape of her on the internet. Then she mentions that she's still sleeping with the guy she has a restraining order on. And at about that time I decide it's time to leave. I told her straight up I'm no longer interested and she called me an asshole. I had 15 missed calls on my phone on the way home.

Why can't I just find a girl with an acceptable past? Someone I wouldn't be embarrassed to bring home to my parents. This kind of shit happens to me all the time and I can't take it anymore.


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Title Thought I found a unicorn and reality came crashing down...
Author 5pecial
Upvotes 84
Comments 84
Date 02 July 2017 04:27 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (8 children) | Copy

The fact that she would confess all this in rapid succession suggests she is nuts.

[–]thetotalpackage730 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women have been told they can do no wrong...you go girl...don't let men judge u, etc. Who tells them this? Other women, cucks, tv, and desperate betas. The men they want WILL and should judge them. She needed this reality check.

[–]-ATLAS-_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women's first instinct is to soothe emotions and validate each other. It is not to talk about wha is successful or will actually lead to results they want.

One of my favorite moments showing this was Anthony Robbins straight up correcting Oprah one time and telling her this, I can't remember where or how I saw it, but somewhere out there is Anthony Robbins telling Oprah to stop validating women.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I thought the same. Maybe OP did find a unicorn after all: a woman who doesn't trickle truth. She's a keeper!

[–]smirk_addict10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

I feel you. But maybe OPs vibe was chill and non-judgmental enough to where she felt like she could tell him those things. That's definitely a good thing. Because you need to know shit like this If you are potentially trying have an LTR with a woman. Now the next man may be screwed though.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

She should still intuit that any man with value and options will not take her seriously after such admissions.

[–]empatheticapathetic2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This was her learning experience.

[–]jackandjill222 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lel

[–]INTJokes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeeaah fuck that

[–]lietruth66 points67 points  (24 children) | Copy

Steeeeer clear man!! Turn the ship around.

why can’t I just find a girl with an acceptable past.

You can. Find them young (18,19,20) with a good father figure in their life. Then pairbond with one and she’ll never leave you.

The main fucking problem with these bitches nowadays is how often they sleep around. None of them have properly formed attachment to a man, and therefore have issues and a fucked up past. Save yourself a boatload of trouble and find yourself a young woman with a ~0 partner count. Young women are less likely to have done this (still possible though).

[–]long-lostfriend29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. This is accurate. My wife has an acceptable past: previous n=0, met her when she was 19.

Is that a 100% guarantee? Of course not, and even though I can't even imagine her even considering cheating on me, I know that continues to depend on me living according to RP reality.

[–]MaxwellGaine15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

Tried that, but she flipped to the dark side five years in. AWALT etc.

Just go in accepting that every good chapter has an end, and be prepared for that end, enjoy the chapter while it lasts, that's the reality of it these days.

[–]Red-Curious14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

A friend of mine used to say, "All women go into a relationship hoping to change the man, and men hope women will stay the same; both are always disappointed."

[–]DiggerClam0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your friend should be a famous philosopher with words like that.

Beautiful.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy

Then pairbond with one and she'll never leave you.

I think you should get a second dose of red pills because you seem to have only half chewed the first one.

Evolution by means of natural selection has engraven hypergamy, the sexual lust for alphas and the psychological ease to branch-swing in the stone of the psyche of every woman. There is no amount of strong father figure, low N count and traditional upbringing that will prevent that fact.

That understood...

  • Can OP find a girl with an acceptable past? Yes of course.
  • Can OP get a girl with an acceptable past and be with her for the rest of his life? That's possible.
  • Can OP expect a girl with an acceptable past to "never leave him"? Nope. He can't expect that. Not in this modern world.

The only thing that ever prevented women to stray is the threat of consequences: poverty, social ostracisation, eternal damnation, death penalty. (Edit: not entirely true. Women have other incentives not to stray, see discussion below)

In our modern world where women have few to little consequences for straying, you cannot ensure their loyalty because it is betting against their natural behaviour.

I really hope you understand this before you find your "unicorn".

[–]aigamithite5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

While this is true, the sexual strategy of women changes once she has offspring, hence the duality of their strategy. Hypergamy is still active, but the need for a provider tends to be stronger, so assuming you are half an alpha bucks, you should be OK under that scenario. Is there a chance she leaves him? Sure but it's a chance, not an inevitability.

If you pairbond with what OP describes, keep yourself true to RP values and have children with her, there should be enough incentives for her not to leave.

Of course unicorns don't exist, but you can still find a good horse. All women are like that, but not all women will act like that; it's an entire spectrum.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

You are right and I edited my comment in consequence.

Pair bonding, fear of social shame, good upbringing, good morality, sunken cost fallacy, need for safety, power of habit, husband's alpha behaviour, and interest for the psychological health of her children all pull a woman towards resisting her branch-swinging urges. I'd even admit that all of this is true for the woman in LTR without children (except the last item).

But the issue is that women also go along with their feelings on the moment, so none of this above might be enough the night when she's away at a conference, sharing a hotel apartment with her boss who is so attractive, after they've gone for a couple drinks, etc.

So to keep going with your analogy: There are no unicorns, they're all horses. There are good and bad horses. But even if you find the most excellent horse, it can still injure itself during the race simply because horse races are inherently risky. So consider this before betting your entire life on any one horse, however excellent it looks and has performed so far. By all means do bet, but first accept you might lose it.

[–]aigamithite-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well said. To add though:

But the issue is that women also go along with their feelings on the moment, so none of this above might be enough the night when she's away at a conference, sharing a hotel apartment with her boss who is so attractive, after they've gone for a couple drinks, etc.

This works both ways. If the scales of dread tip in the man's favor this is unlikely to happen. It goes back to abundance again; if you have 20 million in the bank you can afford to lose one in a bet.

[–]TravelingShitLord5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Red alert! Battlestations!

Lol

[–]TruthInArt2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Wait, is this a legit strategy to having as close to a unicorn as possible? What would constitute as pairbonding in this situation and how would you keep up the sex life after marriage (if that's even on the table)?

[–]lietruth4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yes.

With some exceptions. Women are women, so hypergamy is always going to be a thing. But if you find a good girl when she’s young, she can bond to you healthily and not want to branch swing every other weekend for a guy with a cool Jeep.

Pairbonding means being attached to one mate, and having loyalty/preference to that mate.

Keeping up the sex life after marriage is entirely up to you. Want more sex, up the dread. She’ll naturally follow.

[–]Willow-girl1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

But if you find a good girl when she’s young, she can bond to you healthily and not want to branch swing every other weekend for a guy with a cool Jeep.

It's been my observation that "good girls" who settle down, marry and start families early in life often get restless around age 30 and want to experience all the 'fun' they believe they missed out on in their teen/young adult years. Beware!

Personally, I think it's better for young people of both genders to sow their wild oats and get all of that out of their system before they marry and have children.

[–]TruthInArt0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Do you have to be an alpha while going in or is it okay to cultivate those traits and pass shit tests along the way?

I've got an idiot friend who's around 18 and thinks he can pull this off with an LDR that's not even in the country. Your comment intrigued me because I'm starting to wonder if he's not actually an idiot at all.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your friend is an idiot. The guy you're chatting with is misguided by his blue pill fantasies. And so do you by considering it an option.

Do NOT expect ANY woman to never leave you. Do not expect her loyalty. Do not look for a unicorn. A woman is a human being guided by her self-interest, NOT YOURS. Just get with a girl, and enjoy every day with her like it's the last day of your relationship, because it might be.

[–]TruthInArt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

True that. Man its scary to think about when you have such expectations.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

18 to 20, around a 0 partner count? I think the 90's called, they want their expectations back. It's 2017, the average (real) age for virginity loss for girls is like 15. I'm 25, and I knew girls that were getting fucked when we were 14, by the older guys (we were jealous as fuck, but what are you gonna do?"he's got a car!!")

[–]Darkistco points points [recovered] | Copy

welp im like 5 years younger and I know freshmen (from a story) during some prom night party, 2 sloots I assume around 15 because freshmen sucked off like 20+ guys each

they lose their virginity mid middle school like 13

I was in walmart and saw this girl dressed as a college slut, in the basic bitch outfit she had to be 12,

trp needs to wake up and instaban any ltr post because the whole idea of "pair bonding" is a joke when they just wanna fuck early as possible, their doing drugs and partying early as middle school like i said, trp needs to get this shit out and just accept it, why even ltr really no benefit at all, maybe if it was really pushed more here, then wymn would actually realize they're never going to CATCH a high value man but just get plowed

[–]8xin1nite-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

The young women wouldn't know how to fuck, sexuality wise and mental wise in terms of her band width is narrow.

Have you ever rode a horse that's only ever had one average killed person riding it? You would wanna take it to play polo or enjoy the ride.

[–]sjdfhskdjfh3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

I hate this analogy. What's wrong with teaching the "horse" yourself?

[–]Trilldungsroman1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Absolutely nothing. No shame in grooming it into your own steed.

[–]8xin1nite-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Those horses that have had a few skilled riders perform much better and are more powerful skilled rides than horses that's ever had one rider. Like women, horses that's always been ride on by the public aren't good for polo, races, or anything more than walking around. It's true.

[–]Trilldungsroman1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Both of those sentences are contradictory. You're telling me an inexperienced woman is inferior, but seem to be condemning the woman with experience at the same time. I don't understand the point of your argument there

[–]8xin1nite0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My father and uncles are all polo players I have been around horses long enough since birth to know what I am talking about. Women a lesser extent, but I think my analogy is valid. Basically you want some experience but not a whole lot.

[–]bbm7228 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

Link to said video please

[–]brinkleybuzz27 points28 points  (5 children) | Copy

She seemed like a wholesome girl, considering she goes to church every week.

Regular church-going is by no means an indicator of wholesomeness. Many women go to church on Sunday to get forgiveness for all the freaky shit they did Fri and Sat night.

She admitted to being into FFMs? Why didn't you get at least one out of the deal before you split? You don't have to take plates home to your parents.

[–]LordThunderbolt10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

He was looking for a unicorn off a dating app.

[–]empatheticapathetic6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm sure if he wanted to he would have but he wasn't looking for/expecting her to unload so many issues at once. It likely quickly turned him off as it didn't match who he thought she was.

[–]failingtheturingtest4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

She admitted to being into FFMs?

This is called bait. She actually has no intention of having another FFM, but she plants the seed so that he starts offering her more and more in the hope that she does so.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely.

[–]alphabachelor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Regular church-going is by no means an indicator of wholesomeness.

You got that right.

I went to Catholic school. The whole chastity is a virtue didn't stop girls from wearing short skirts and being overall sluts. About 10 years after I graduated, I learned the school board changed the dress code to eliminate skirts as girls were wearing them too scandalously.

So yeah, a girl that goes to church regularly means jackshit. All that tells me is she knows the value of blending in.

[–]dontbedenied2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good for you in steering clear. My last two Exes were like this girl, not quite as extreme but I was Cap'n Save a Ho nonetheless. I've found it hard to say no to girls like this in the past, at least just to fuck them. Then they get super attached to me and become a nightmare to get rid of. Again, congratulations for ending it before things went any further, you're an inspiration.

As far as finding a "good/healthy/normal" girl, I think it's just a numbers game. And due to feminism the numbers get worse every day. I'm not optimistic but it is what it is.

[–]BullshittingNonsense2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This bitch is crazy. I don't even like it when a girl mentions a boyfriend on the first date even if it's for a sentence or two. I don't wanna hear about that shit

[–]Throwawaysteve1234562 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, good on you for following your gut man, that is some fucked up shit. She tells you this now, imagine what you'll hear next year.

[–]Il128 points points [recovered] | Copy

FYI just because a woman doesn't tell you her sexual past doesn't mean she doesn't have one.

This nonsense of nexting women who are honest out the gate is as fucking stupid as it gets. AWALT=Get OVER IT. When a woman is honest like this get a grip next time. She's just wanting you to know the truth and is being open to you. Why fuck it up by being judgemental? Is it jealousy?

Why the fuck wouldn't a woman over the age of 19 have a full sexul past where she explores her full sexual agency? What? You think she's waiting for your magical super special cock... LOL!

[–]LordThunderbolt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP was looking for a unicorn. You already know he was gonna fail.

[–]360_no_scope_upvote2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why would OP stick around because she's a strong sexually liberated woman who dumps all her emotional baggage on the table oh I know why because she sounds fucking crazy. And you're coming off as beta

[–]BestSC863 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Good lord, dude.....She was fucking crazy????

Don't stick you dick in crazy.....

[–]mcr00sterdota1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

girl I met on Bumble

Did you seriously actually trust a girl who uses Tinder/Bumble?

She seemed like a wholesome girl, considering she goes to church every week and loves working with children

This means nothing.

First she mentions how she has a restraining order on her ex-boyfriend and how even though she found out he was married to a woman in another state, and was cheating on her with dudes, she thinks she may never find a connection to someone like she had with him.

Alpha widow.

Then she mentions she thought she might be a lesbian, so she's been hooking up with her female friends lately.

Red flag

Then she mentions she's been in FFM and MMF threesomes, including a threesome between the guy she was dating and her most recent ex-boyfriend.

Red flag

Then she mentions there's a sex tape of her on the internet. Then she mentions that she's still sleeping with the guy she has a restraining order on.

Holy shit

And at about that time I decide it's time to leave. I told her straight up I'm no longer interested

Good boy

Why can't I just find a girl with an acceptable past?

Because AWALT. Unicorns do not exist. Even if you do find one its probably just a horse in disguise with a horn strapped on it's head.

[–]TheEconomist7771 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

asdfs

[–]dammit_redskins points points [recovered] | Copy

Dude she's 27. Every 27 year old girl who's attractive has a sexual history. She was being honest with you. At least she didn't lie to you. AWALT, get over it.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's a better view to take. I think this is probably accurate however. Do you not think that this case was excessive? Or is this clustered/generalized as normal these days?

[–]ChrisBenRoy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bumble should have been your first giveaway. If she was worth it, should wouldn't have to resort to using it to meet good men. Bumble is just a more lady friendly version of Tinder.

[–]AlphaWeaboo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good on you for making her drink a lot, sure way to make them spill the beans.

[–]LordThunderbolt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your first problem was thinking u can find a good girl off a dating app. Your second problem was thinking unicorns exist. Your third problem was going on 3 dates without having banged or gotten head from her. I'm not even sure you missed her.

[–]RPStone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Too bad she has the restraining order, otherwise sounds like a great plate.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thought I found a unicorn

A unicorn is a mythical beast.

she goes to church every week

A lot of people go to church on Sunday to get forgiven for what they did on Saturday night.

loves working with children

So did Brianne Altice, Sarah Jones, Debra LaFave and Pamela Rogers Turner.1

I was thinking "no big deal, it can't be that bad"

Having read through the list of stuff, the only way this gets worse (other than you taking her back) is if she used to be a guy, before "the surgery".

1 Although as I understand it, she's back to being Pamela Rogers, as her husband divorced her and took his last name with him.

[–]The__Tren__Train0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i feel like you could have done a pretty hilarious dismount from that cluserfuck of a date..

you blew it by being too serious and straightforward IMO

[–]BestSC860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She sounds craaaaazzzy........ why in the world would you think she was a unicorn after 2 dates? You do not even know her at all so thinking she is a unicorn is on you.

The type of girl who attract is often a product of the type which you find attractive....take a close look at what makes you notice a girl? Are you letting your hard-on make multiple red flags invisible? Are you overlooking them or ignoring them?

Once might be just bad luck but if you have a string of such crazies then it is something in your pre-selection method.

[–]clint_bronson0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah sure whatever... ...so about that sex tape she mentioned....?

[–]0kool740 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Man when are you dudes going to learn? THERE IS NO UNICORN!!!!!!! It's just a big a myth as women who say they truly love their man. Even an n count of 0 isn't guaranteed success. Y'all really need to stop setting yourselves up for failure.

[–]firewelt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

At the very least you should post the link to the sex tape here.

[–]Gawernator0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

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Get out of there, smart move

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[–]hawkeaglejesus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why can't I just find a girl with an acceptable past? Someone I wouldn't be embarrassed to bring home to my parents. This kind of shit happens to me all the time and I can't take it anymore.

AWALT, some are just better at hiding it than others.

also

unicorn

27 year old girl I met on Bumble

bruh, your standards are pretty low

[–]Mudpielol0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank her, you dodged a bullet. Better to find out about that shit asap.

Why can't I just find a girl with an acceptable past? Someone I wouldn't be embarrassed to bring home to my parents. This kind of shit happens to me all the time and I can't take it anymore.

Relax. Getting angry about it won't solve your problem. Nothing to do but keep trying. And watch for red flags man.

[–]disposable_pants0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She seemed like a wholesome girl, considering she goes to church every week and loves working with children.

Notice how you state this like it's a fact.

You've known this woman for what, two weeks? Talked to her in person only three times? You don't know jack or shit about her. You really need to beat this point into your brain because you're still implicitly trusting her without evidence despite all other indications telling you she's nuts.

Treat the first few weeks/months of a relationship like you're reading the resume of someone you may hire. Oh, you say you went to Princeton and triple-majored? Sounds great, but I'm not going to fully believe it until I see a transcript. Oh, you say you have 5 years of exactly the type of experience we need? Sounds great, but I'm not going to fully believe it until I see you demonstrate your competency. Oh, you say you're great with deadlines and responsibility? Sounds great, but I'm not going to fully believe it until you show that to me.

Take everything she says with a grain of salt, and don't fully believe what she tells you until you can verify it yourself. Trust is earned, not given.

[–]Docbear640 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

she sounds like a great plate and in all honesty if you just wanted someone to show off to the parents ( without them knowing shit about her) it sounds like she'd be a great candidate. You two could be in church every sunday while she's deep throating you in your car in an alley way sunday night .

It's a live and learn thing man , back in the day the circles women inhabited reflected on their lifestyles / pasts/ and life paths better but now sex and mistakes are all one swipe or message away . You can't assume shit about any woman or her past, give her time to show you who she is ... and she will.

[–]StudntRdyTeachrApear5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

You must be lost friend.

[–]Docbear640 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

why do you say that?

[–]user_none6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

  • restraining order

That's enough to steer clear in and of itself.

[–]Docbear642 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

ooh missed that part good point , re-reading I retract my earlier statement her going so deep after knowing OP so little shows she's a bit off too

[–]8xin1nite2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sex with ex bf big Nono

[–]RPStone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Plates can fuck whoever they want

[–]5pecial points points [recovered] | Copy

Yeah, it would have been fun to fuck her (absolutely ridiculous body, fake boobs and all), but I don't want to lead her on or deal with any of the drama associated with it. Plus, the fact that she's still hooking up with her bi ex is a huge red flag. Seems like a great way to get a bunch of STDs.

[–]empatheticapathetic5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fake boobs? Perhaps you misread her from the start.

[–]BestSC862 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"....fake boobs and all"

Yep, just confirmed what I expected....it is your selection method that is getting you saddled with all these crazies.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

Women get offered dick every day several times a day, in covert or uncovert ways. And even if she were to stay home all day not talking to anyone, she could get dick at her door within 15 minutes.

In that context, getting threesomes for a woman is as easy as it is for you to find a Starbucks in any major US city. I've had fat ugly girls tell me they got several. Ive had shy-looking 18yo telling me they got several. Unless they willingly avoid a threesome (why for?), any girl can get one. That Holy Grail of yours is just a Starbucks plastic cup for her.

[–]BestSC861 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Where do you live with all these hos banging three dudes in a room every other night?

Less than 1% of the population has engaged in multi-partner sex, so where is this land where every girl over 15 years old is routinely getting pounded by two guys at the same time every weekend.

Please, this shit is what gives TRP a bad reputation with such outlandish "beliefs".

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Where do you live with all these hos banging three dudes in a room every other night?

I did not say that. I said that among the many girls who told me they did threesomes, there were two uggos and one very young one. My point was that it's easy for them to get if they so wish. I don't mean they all do it and all the time. I also did not mean necessarily MMF but MFF too.

Less than 1% of the population has engaged in multi-partner sex, so where is this land where every girl over 15 years old is routinely getting pounded by two guys at the same time every weekend.

Show me the study where it says so. Show me it's been made recently, that it only samples that sexually active age and show me that women in that study report the truth (fair chance).

My experience is that I said. I'd say of all the girls I've been with these past few years, a good 30% have told me they have tried threesome, so it's a lower bound. Similarly, a good 70% has at least tried girls once before (I'd say 30% have tried more than once). In a general manner, men are not aware of how much women "experiment". It only make sense. Sex is a pleasant experience, that has very little social stigma attached to it and is so easy to get for them. Why would they not try?

Please, this shit is what gives TRP a bad reputation with such outlandish "beliefs".

Don't see why it gives a bad reputation to recognize the reality of how sexually experimental is the new generation. The progressive left is all about "sex-positivism". You can't go a day without reading about transsexuals, gay and lesbians, furries, polyamory, cuckolding fetish.. and we'd be the bad guys to recognize that women like to experiment sexually?

[–]5pecial points points [recovered] | Copy

Well, if that's the case, I'll die alone. I won't settle for knowing the mother of my future children got DP'd when she was younger.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Every man can get a Starbucks coffee in the next 15 minutes if he wishes so, but not every man likes Starbucks coffee and maybe a few have never considered trying it yet.

Now imagine if men were encouraged to try that coffee, but most know that doing so would reflect poorly on their character. Some would try, some would try and hide it, and some wouldn't try.

Also, we all do die alone anyway, even if you have a loved one on your death bed.

You also have the option to enjoy a woman's company without her giving you children.

And finally your hope to have a girl be pure as snow is a blue pill delusion. Even if you'd find a girl with a N count of zero and who stay faithful to you, she's still a woman, aka she can't prevent her 'gina from tingling when her handsome boss comes talk to her. It's the same delusion that fathers have that their daughter is and remain a pure angel. Better accept the animal origins of humans.

[–]AshyBoneVR4-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I met on Bumble.

First reg flag.

considering she goes to church every week

Second red flag.

We had tons in common

Think carefully about this one. Did you guys really have stuff in common, or was she just playing off of what you were saying. I've noticed that as girls age, they get better at manipulating people. Most of the time, they just want people to like them. Because if people like them, they can control those people. So it's easy for them to learn how to play along. For example, if you say you like something that she doesn't like, cars for example, she can rattle off some car facts, or even just names she may have heard from other guys, or some of her friends. Our minds take over and instantly fill in the blanks she leaving by thinking she knows more than what she really does, which places her neatly in the unicorn status in our minds.

Then she mentions she thought she might be a lesbian, so she's been hooking up with her female friends lately.

Full stop. Abort mission. STOP! DO NOT PROCEED!

I'm glad you got up and left OP. Sad to say, that late girls our age (also 27) are basically a lost cause. Going to have to aim younger, and train them. Me, I don't put up with bull shit, and not about to train a bitch. I'm more MGTOW at this point because I just have no kind of faith in women any more. Find one that bearable, and a good fuck, don't spend too much time with her, and call it a day.

[–]sirlancer-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

holy shit quality of life control needs to take this woman out before she creates a child



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