I made a post recently and I think my text game could do with improving.

I've met a lot of women from Tinder and online dating in general and have usually been fine with some minimal banter and a simple "fancy going out for a drink some time?".. answer is usually "yeh, I'd like that".

However, this isn't really cutting it for the younger chicks in the 18-23 range. It does sometimes, but I have a feeling it just isn't showing enough leadership.

My question is twofold.. is it a good idea to first get someone's number, then ask them out through that, or just ask them out and get their number as a matter of keeping in touch?

The second question is - how does this change for targeting younger women? I don't seem to have much of a problem with 25+, but it seems almost every 18-23 year old is a time-waster.