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4'11 indian janitor is a cope

January 8, 2023

most incels aren't that, a lot of them are 5'9 white 5/10 guys

so that strawman aside, what is YOUR or THEIR excuse? it can't be that chad is slaying all because normies still have sex.

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Title 4'11 indian janitor is a cope
Author puririnpa
Upvotes 4
Comments 50
Date January 8, 2023 12:52 PM UTC (2 months ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/AllPillDebate/411-indian-janitor-is-a-cope.1146515
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[–]platinirismsBlackPill 2 points3 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

4’11 Indian janitor is used as an example of how looks/status/wealth are extremely important and how personality plays little to no role.

It dismantles anybodies idea of the Blackpill not being at least somewhat true.

We’re not saying that Incels are short Indian balding janitors, we’re saying that anybody who comes around saying “Women aren’t visual” or “looks don’t matter”, we can just use that as an example of how It does matter.

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy Link

again, still doesn't explain why 5/10 dead average dudes do this

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 3 points4 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

For starters, the average incel isn’t a 5/10 5’9 white guy. That’s literally the average person in USA.

Fun fact, despite Reddit being overwhelmingly white (80% of the user base) and from USA, incel subreddits were 50% white, 50% non-white. Incel subreddits we’re literally one of the most diverse subreddits on Reddit.

JBW was a meme stating all you had to do was “Just Be White” and you could date some overseas woman. White Incels clearly didn’t make this meme.

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

legit incels are a minority within a minority though, so %50 being white is enough to prove jbw wrong if anything, especially since a lot of those ethnic incels refuse to fuck non-white (or non azn) pussy.

overseas thing is also a cope as it's dependent on your money, not your race, a japanese guy, indian guy, white guy, black guy could all slay in philippines or nigeria. the average inkwell just isn't rich enough to exploit this no matter the race.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Nah, we did plenty of tinder testing back in the day setting our location to Philippines, Indian incel got more matches than they would in the west, but still nothing to celebrate, we photoshopped his skin white and suddenly it was like the floodgates opened. Hundreds of matches.

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

use a korean guy(they seamaxx more than whites) or even some black american guy then, he would probably get good results. sorry for saying this, but indian guys are just kind of low status everywhere, but even you said he got more matches than in the west so he can ascend right?

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Tinder matches don’t automatically mean dates, you still got to talk to her, entertain her, get her phone number, and setup a date. All the while she’s still talking with 10+ other guys on the app.

[–]puririnpa[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

ok now i have an actual material to disprove a myth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSRekRYWa_k

as you can see, korean and japanese men beat european men here by far, maybe they would take a white guy over a dark skinned asian guy but relatively lighter asians (like korean and maybe japanese) score higher thann white guys overall, maybe older generations like 30-50 will like an ameircan guy better but the new meta among younger women in philippines are korean/japanese>white>anything dark skinned.

so it's less jbw, more just be light skinned, also stats prove those answers as you can see most common intermarriages in japan and korea are local men with sea women, not local women with anything else.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Just because Korean/Japanese is more popular, doesn’t mean JBW is untrue.

JBW just means, if you were white, you’d have it far far easier in terms of dating. Wether it’s in your own country or abroad.

Koreans being popular in a country where K-Pop is massive doesn’t stop white men from also attracting these same women. It just means Koreans and Japanese men have a better chance.

Koreans may have a better chance in the Philippines specifically or similar countries, but in their own country or a western country? White men are considered more attractive, keep in mind in western countries specifically, Asians are always rated the least attractive.

But honestly, had no idea about Philippines finding Korean/Japanese men handsome, that’s useful to keep in mind, thanks!

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

i'm not saying white men will have hard time or will not attract women though, moreso that finding it easier overseas isn't something exclusive to them.

in korea/japan, an uglier or mediocre wm won't really do well with the younger generation actually, maybe among 30-50 crowd... sea sleeping with old fat white men is due to poverty and such thing is no factor in korea or japan. aand i think in sk, amwf is actually more popular or even with wmaf rates due to k-cultural exports bringing in female expats. maybe an average wm will be more exotic there but the wmaf thing there is still hugely exeggrated due to asian-americans and miennial stereotypes. an attractive or above average wm wil indeed do well everywhere sure, but you won't see manlet obese 60 year old white guy with 25 year old attractive korean/japanese women for sure in 2023.

in USA sure you have a point but we're talking about geomaxxing, also even in the west i think zoomers are less prejudiced aganist asians due to asian media recently being started to be seen as ''cool'' (which is th emost important factor for female attraction, btw), i expect to see normies recognize the rise in 2025-2035

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ok, but still, try to do the same with a reasonably average korean or black american guy.

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[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

by the way i can disprove this myth.


as we can observe, korean and japanese men here beat european men by far, i think they will still like white guys over darker skinned asians but asians that are relatively light skinned compared to flippinos like korean or japanese beat both of them. i think maybe older flippinas like 30 to 50 will prefer american guys, but younger flippinas are deep in the anime and kpop craze.

so it's less jbw, more just be lighter skinned relative to the population, also stats prove those answers as you can see most common intermarriages in japan and korea are local men with sea women, not local women with anything else.

i believe white guys still score the highest overall, but people here are genuinely underestimating how much the northeast asian phenotype has shot up in desirability globally.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Remarkable-Jump9125 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The majority of incels are non white.

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

at least half of them are.

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[–]platinirismsBlackPill 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I don’t understand your point. He’s a theoretical example of how looks/status/wealth matters.

The point is he could be the most charismatic man at the club and will still immensely struggle to date women compared to an autistic tall white man.

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[–]platinirismsBlackPill 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

because a man with those particular social limiters is unlikely to possess overwhelming charisma and wit

That’s irrelevant, we’re not discussing the odds of how good his personality might me, I’m saying even if we assume he has an amazing personality, it literally wouldn’t matter because he’s still a 4’11 Indian janitor at the end of the day.

nice guys paragraph

I don’t see how this is relevant to anything we’re talking about. We’re talking about how looks/status/wealth are important, what have nice guys got to do with this?

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[–]platinirismsBlackPill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn’t know you guys are still debating about wether looks matter or not

We don’t, this is just an example to prove to non-Incels/non-blackpillers how it does matter. Every incel agrees looks matters.

Every athlete in high school/collage

Looks/Status/Wealth, being a collage athlete is the pinnacle of Status in collage, if he was crap at sports then he wouldn’t be attractive.

Average looking man with a terrific personality

Incels aren’t average looking men. They’re the bottom 15%.

[–]The_FatGuy_Strangler 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What bugs me are all the absolute claims mentioned on here… “women do this” or “men do that”. There’s some truth to all the pills IMHO. Are looks important? To some yes, it’s very important, to others it’s mildly important, and to others still - barely or not at all. Personality matters to everyone too, to varying degrees and depending how much you’re willing to tolerate differences or undesirable personality flaws in that person (from your POV). There are also certain common trends that can apply to a lot (or most) of people, yet you will find exceptions too. Culture and locality can (and will) also play role in dating dynamics.

[–]upalseBogPill 1 point2 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

5/10 guys



[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy Link


[–]upalseBogPill 0 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

I mean it's safe to assume reddit is just full of dweeb weirdo men, and insane women. Not exactly hot shots in dating department. Such a preselected demographic is closer to the janitor than 5/10 average joe schmoe imo.

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy Link

i mean who do you think elliot rodger is closer to for example?

[–]upalseBogPill 1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Hapa with horrible upbringing. You're too specific, but I'm sure you'd find few fine specimens of supreme gentlemen on r/asianmasculinity.

[–]puririnpa[S] -1 points0 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

he doesn't even look asian enough to be ''ethnic taxed'', even then if he was a teenager in 2022 he would probably be slaying kpop weeb loving girls since he's a prettboy.

also yes, he refused to fuck ''non-blonde'' girls.

[–]upalseBogPill 1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

It's macabre, but the reality of ER having weirdo weeaboo fangirls only posthumously is the most amusing on multiple levels. Infamous, hybristophilia, all the blackpill/incel checkmarks. Plus doing what he did is the only thing of note to get any poon, not sure if that was intent.

I didn't read his manifesto, but you sound like an expert, didn't he sperg about how asian girls don't like him either or something to that effect? Or is he genuinely the femcel archetype for "he only wants 200cm Victoria Secret stacy"?

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

nah i think that's just regular ricecel whining, elliot just considered all non-whites subhuman.

also honestly he was born in the wrong time, look at the tiktok dudes that slay in 2022, white, asian hapa or whatever they all have similar face to him.

[–]upalseBogPill 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Ngl, your obsession kinda creeps me out. It's true ER is kind of an archetype for "it's your personality". However implying that most incels are actually school shooting sons of film directors in LA, that's a bit stretching your LARP-dating-an-upperclass-douche-incel fantasy, don't you think?

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

i looked some users faces here, true ''subhumans'' were rare.

[–]Remarkable-Jump9125 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Elliot didn't look at all white.

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[–]puririnpa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i mean it's one thing if those were actually balding indian short janitors but anyone can see what a significant portion of the incels are(dead average white guys)

i don't think it's even that they want cutesy young white girls, they probably are too socially lacking or simply unlucky and want their theories on chads to be proven right so they don't get hurt even more by seeing unattractive or normie guys with girlfriends.

[–]upalseBogPill 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

devoted, beautiful, blond, blue eyed, naive 18 year old cheerleader with the body of a porn star.

Aka not a landwhale.

[–]puririnpa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

cope, a lot of ethniccels refuse to fuck non-white(or non-asian sometimes because murica) girls.

[–]TsugaC -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

People get roughly what they have to offer.

[–]upalseBogPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True. Most guys definitely went thru a fat gf phase, if only to lead her on as a scooter. The whole discounting it as even an option is weird.

[–]Green-Quantity1032 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The 4'11 indian guy is incels demonstrating their poor understanding of non-linear relationships.

They try to say "You see, he can't get any, therefore personality means nothing and it's all looks!".

Of course, looks matters, a lot.

But less than incels think.

Being 4'11 indian ugly is of course non-passable.

But 5'9 white 5/10 is passable, and along with good personality, decent income and the girl sensing opportunity for long-term prospects, they can get a decent girl.

If, however, that 5'9 5/10 guy wants hookups with hot girls via Tinder - then yeah, that's.. not gonna work too well.

It's a legitimate want, but most people won't have that, like most people won't be rich.

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

5'9 5/10 man look like 4'11 3/10 for women. 5/10 man have to simp just to have opportunity to become cuck for his looksmatch.

[–]puririnpa[S] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

no, normies stil have sex.

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

For money, drunk girls, postwall, as payment for something, no better choices, forced by parents, raped.

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

average normie is fucking average girl his age, tinder brainwashed you.

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get real, you're too insecure.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Bro if your white just got africa. Women will jump on you so quick, the western world is what makes things a lot tougher

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

betabuxxing with new steps tbh

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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