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A good post for incels on how to overcome shyness/social anxiety

January 29, 2023
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You can view the original post here, but the post is quite long, so I'll briefly summarize it.

The general gist is that unspoken social rules dictate us incels to know our place, which is why we're so shy and quiet. Our shyness and social anxiety is not self-inflicted, but rather a product of our social awareness and treatment by society. But instead of "staying in our lane" and accepting our treatment as a second-class citizen, we should externalize our hatred/anger and refuse to conform to a society that oppresses and discriminates against us.

So in practice, this means acting confident in our interactions with others, refusing to be bullied or walked over, being confrontational when we need to, and saying what we want- even if this behavior is "out of line" for us. This will help us overcome our shyness and anxiety, though it may make people hate us even more (which is why it's recommended only for those who are truly at the bottom of the social hierarchy and have nothing to lose).

TLDR: Act more confident to spite society.

Of course, I glossed over a lot of details and nuances here, so I would recommend reading the original post I linked if you have the time. It's one of the few long Reddit posts that I've found genuinely insightful and relatable, and I think a lot of incels could really use it.

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Title A good post for incels on how to overcome shyness/social anxiety
Author MegaGigaTeraBased
Upvotes 3
Comments 21
Date January 29, 2023 3:52 AM UTC (2 months ago)
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[–]Bangmade 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

LDAR more realistic

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I think you need to find a balance between having dignity and being self aware of your situation, like not being delusional and believing you are more attractive or desirable than you actually are.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I agree. But incels tend to be way too far on the "having dignity and being self-aware" side of the spectrum, to the point that a purposeful overcorrection is necessary.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Preach, I doubt that all these guys are soooooo unlovable and ugly. Like I’m optimistic for these men that they are actually a diamond in the rough that just needs to be polished up or sometimes they’re fine and they just need to be displayed in the right case.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ok now this is bluepilled BS. Incels ARE unloveable and ugly, and anyone who says otherwise is coping. My point is that incels should try to retain their dignity, even if they're unloveable and worthless to society.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think in doing that you will substantially improve your position. I believe we agree I may just be a little more optimistic than you. Like you said get out of your “lane” to spite society.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I would argue that there’s a misconception that these men are all hideous unlovable psychos. So I disagree, let’s not temper people’s ambition to express themselves freely. And also not put it in these peoples heads that they are ugly and like OP said need to “stay in your lane” and either die alone or marry an ugly old used up crack head chick.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

And also not put it in these peoples heads that they are ugly and like OP said need to “stay in your lane” and either die alone or marry an ugly old used up crack head chick.

By "stay in your lane" I was more referring to social interactions, in which incels are expected to not stand up for themselves or make their voices heard.

Sexually and romantically, incels have no choice but to stay in their lane; realistically, they ARE going to die alone, and not even an "ugly old used up crackhead chick" will want them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Again I bet not all of these men are a total lost cause. Maybe some are.

[–]InkieForBeingCurry 5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Not being shy doesn’t make you attractive. Being confident while being ugly makes you “creepy”. You are always meant to know your place

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The point is not to make you more attractive; if anything it will make women hate you even more.

The point is to preserve your own dignity by refusing to "know our place" like society dictates us to. If society treats us like second-class citizens anyway, why should we care about social norms or societal expectations?

[–]MacaroonSad5073 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah let me know how that works out for you. If people like us act out of line enough we’ll eventually end up behind bars.

Muhh just stop caring about societal norms bro. Gtfo here with that crap

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah let me know how that works out for you. If people like us act out of line enough we’ll eventually end up behind bars.

For what crime? Talking back to some mouthy rando?

[–]Bangmade 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a wide latitude before that happens lol

[–]Green-Quantity1032 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

lol behind bars, what are you even talking about

[–]RedditAdrninsArePedo 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Being not shy does not make you good looking. An ugly man acting “confident” is seen as “creepy”.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel like a lot of us were shamed into this path. I get so sick of people saying “just do what you can to survive in this environment” “you can only control yourself” while this is good advice because you truly can’t control anything outside yourself, I do think it’s worth discussing the shame and societal causes for so many guys these days having this same exact experience.

[–]TOitneverbegun 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow! Revolutionary

[–]Green-Quantity1032 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Being not shy does not make you good looking. An ugly man acting “confident” is seen as “creepy”.

It feels like this sub is filled with GPT3 bots who spam this shit everywhere

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What is GPT3?

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW / i like my pill the way i like my coffee 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

a language model for machine learning. in other words: it's a program that can simulate a person typing text using AI. scary efficient at what it does, but not seamless.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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