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Apparently women think misandry is justified

Stunning-Spirit5275
August 15, 2022
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/worc2a/what_is_your_opinion_on_misandry/

Though some of the comments were objective and realized the inherent sexism, most felt that either misandry was somehow men’s fault or it was justified due to misogyny. What’s your take ?

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Title Apparently women think misandry is justified
Author Stunning-Spirit5275
Upvotes 22
Comments 65
Date August 15, 2022 10:48 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Meh. That's typical for that demographic.

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Removed for derailing. Please feel free to leave your own response without discussing or judging other people's responses. If you have any questions, please message the moderators through the link on the sidebar.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you're trying to make a joke about the mods in PPD. It's going over my head because I've never visited that sub.

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It was actually a joke about the mods in r/AskWomen

But I agree it may have gone over everyone’s heads.

[–]BumblingBeta 10 points11 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Any female-only sub or sub which is majority female, they have to create huge numbers of rules to overly protect women from any tiny thing that might offend them. If you post anything that women don't agree with or is even mildly critical of anything women do, it is labelled as hate or misogyny and you get warned/banned. The men on subreddits like r/AskWomen have to tiptoe around certain issues and use language that panders to women, because otherwise women will get offended and hit the report button immediately.

On all the female subreddits on reddit (the ones I've posted in anyway), I've been banned. I was never rude or horrible to anyone. Just merely expressing a simple opinion that isn't in line with what women think will get you banned on these subreddits. I remember asking a few questions in r/AskAnEscort nothing rude, always polite, and I was met with so much vitriol and anger, simply because I am a man.

Many women see misandry as "revenge" against men. They also take men for granted in modern society. When you can get sex that easily, you take everything else men do for granted as well, including the ability to insult them and be misandrist against them, because they believe men are horndog pigs with no feelings.

[–]litgas 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Many women see misandry as "revenge" against men.

And that something that should be acceptable to do and promoted.

They also take men for granted in modern society

While saying they don't want nor need men. Yet its going to be a man who will fix their car, house, etc. Some say they find a woman who will do it, but good luck finding a woman in any trade work.

[–]BumblingBeta 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

And that something that should be acceptable to do and promoted

Wow really?

[–]litgas 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Read the comments in the thread linked as well as the stuff said about men from women.

[–]BumblingBeta 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh right, I thought you were saying you personally thought it was acceptable.

I find it sad that once women got the equality they wanted, they use it to screw over men as much as they can.

[–]litgas 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was saying how today women promote this stuff and empower women to say this. The backlash is growing but the misandry is here to stay.

Women honestly haven't gotten actually full equality in the actual sense of the word. But women have gotten a lot of equality and they are seeking to bring down men thinking they will benefit. Loads of comments there talk about how men are to blame for everything and how men are to be held accountable but not women. Apparent to these women their gender never took part in society and they never read a history book. As if they did they would learn the stuff women have done to society.

[–]SemenHead 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure how the first one goes into effect since I know many feminists can have children...but why some people would consider this okay or even right seems like an oxymoron on paper if you knew what was really happening...

[–]brightglowup1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Any female-only sub or sub which is majority female, they have to create huge numbers of rules to overly protect women from any tiny thing that might offend them.

Why is that wrong? You men wanted to burn the house down over tame ass FDS. FDS speaks their truth and u cant take it. And it makes all women lose respect for male redditors bc men say FAR worse. By the thousands. For years.

Do you not understand what type of shit women are force fed by scary numbers of men online?

I can literally post some gender reverse examples here right now that u people will not take well. And i already dealt with a wailing crybaby for saying I agree with "misandry"

In short, men want answers from women but they are a hazard. Yes even just online. To get the body of people u need to source answers, u need to make it comfortable enough for them to opt in

You people are the gender reverse of those spaces anyway

They overcorrect for male hostility bc even if a bro is just inarticulate, not too far will be 10-15 tryign to invalidate and gaslight every woman their. And your preferences are not used to the rough rancid tongue of men. They will just leave

The inverse is male spaces pretending they are neutral with teabagging mods quietly banning and sanctioning everyone or an unfiltered wave of male rage, downvotes and verbal abuse

How women do it is cleaner. Its the same effect with less trauma gifted to men

U want answers? Start getting real about the environments you create to even allow women to speak with u safely and honestly.

Just bc many of the men on the manosphere are out of touch with their masculinity doesnt mean women are not gunna women.

Figure it out.

[–]Stunning-Spirit5275[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

“FDS speaks their truth and u cant take it.”

I do not believe truth is subjective. This is a roundabout way of justifying falsehood by appealing to individual experience as opposed to objective reality.

Also it is one thing to delete a hateful response or retort and another to censor any dissenting views, which I find more common in gynocentric subs

[–]litgas 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

FDS speaks their truth and u cant take it

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Do you not understand what type of shit women are force fed by scary numbers of men online?

You poor baby. I feel so sorry you have to fearmonger about men all based upon skewed data and talking points.

Not to be confused by (selected) male vulnerability which gets the same care and respect afforded to all people I care about.

You don't care about men even those in your lives. Futher so the fact you want selected male vulnerablity only further proves the point of women do not want men to show emotions or be vulnerable. You treat men's vulnerablity like a toy that you get to pick and choose how to use.

They overcorrect for male hostility bc even if a bro is just inarticulate, not too far will be 10-15 trying to invalidate and gaslight every woman there with slurs and hate. Absolutely no points made. Testerical behavior is so common now that everyone knows to watch out for possibly depressed or butthurt men.

Projection is strong with you. But again you are no different from the women who spew misandry. You want to blame men for everything hold men accountable but in turn think women like you are nothing but the victims and its men who should cater their feelings and actions to you. All while you shit on men. None of you women have learned how treating others works.

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

r/AskWomen is a terrible way to get their perspective, the mods are fucking nuts and I’m pretty sure it’s just one with a stick up her arse. They remove any dissenting comments that doesn’t tow the line with the deranged ideas of that crazy mod.

r/AskWomenNoCensor is better.

[–]litgas 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

/r/AskWomen is a literal pro feminist sub that censors anything not to their liking. Its really no different from any other women sub least any of the big ones.

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you say so.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Wow. What about those that don’t toe the line either?

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Huh?

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

tow/toe. I'm being a dick.

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh lol. That went over my head.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My inner pedant has to express himself occasionally… 😬

The origin of the expression involves boxing, if you’re interested.

[–]upalseBogPill 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

What’s your take?

That's just the progressive MO in general. Any oppressed group, minority or not, is entitled to radical voice and unethical action. Intersectional oppression olympics owe much of their appeal to there being a prize at the end of the rainbow.

It's also source of much infighting through which left eats their own most of the time.

[–]Stunning-Spirit5275[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

It’s scary when victimhood morphs into complete ideological chauvinism

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s hilarious when you declare yourself a minority that also disagrees with them tho. It’s like their brain melts.

[–]Stunning-Spirit5275[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Many of them deal in absolutism as central to their beliefs

[–]brightglowup1 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

It’s scary when victimhood morphs into complete ideological chauvinism

You don't have a healthy respect for the ubiquity of male bullshit that gets imposed on the lives of women. This is why women are taking men less seriously

If this bothers you, misogyny would have you in a chokehold (if you were a woman)

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // أشهد أن لا حبة إلا الحبة السوداء 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it's ideological chauvinism. women are doing better than ever, and showing less respect for men than ever. have they changed or are they simply more honest? likely the latter.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wahhh 😭

[–]Stunning-Spirit5275[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A ubiquity of male bullshit compels a ubiquity of female hate ? Isn’t that counterproductive? The whole argument of men being ubiquitously oppressive assumes men and women are monolithic in their views

[–]litgas 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotta love the lies.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Perfect example of solipsistic thinking at work.

[–]optimus69prime69 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That sub is what society would become if women were in charge. Thank God we have patriarchy

[–]Peacesquad 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism lmao

[–]rurunoa 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

misandry is not justified but i think it is not the same as misogyny

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // أشهد أن لا حبة إلا الحبة السوداء 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

in the same way that racism against caucasians might not be the same as racism against south asians but it is still racial prejudice?

[–]rurunoa 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

yes but it becomes more similar in the west, in some places misandry can mean nearly nothing and only exists in peoples heads

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

not in this case though.

[–]rurunoa 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

thats what i said

[–]MarBitt 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some women argue that misogyny began thousands of years ago along with agriculture when matriarchy ended and patriarchy began.

And that misandry is just a reaction to misogyny in patriarchy. And that's why misandry is not as bad as misogyny.

But how do they know that the misogyny of the patriarchy is not just a reaction to the misandry of the matriarchy?

And if this was men's response to the previous misandry, which could well have lasted for tens of thousands of years, would the suffering of women in the last few thousand years be less terrible or somehow more just?

[–]MarBitt 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some women claim that they do not have such power over men that their possible misandry is dangerous for men.

But the biggest influence on men in their lives is firstly their mothers (increasingly single mothers) and then female teachers in schools.

So for the first at least 15 years, when the man is most vulnerable, women have direct power over him. So misandry can have a devastating effect.

Moreover, a boy is not stronger or more dangerous than a grown woman.

[–]MarBitt 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some women argue that misandry was built by men and therefore women are not responsible because they have no power in society.

But that's not entirely true either. In advanced democratic societies, the population is aging and this means in practice that there are more female voters than male voters.

According to the Current Population Survey, 2020 voter turnout was 68.4% for women and 65.0% for men. About 9.7 million more women than men voted.

It's similar to when some women say that war is a man's business, women have nothing to do with it. People like Putin, Hitler... were elected largely by women. The election campaigns of these two dictators directly targeted them. Women are very good at organization, they have an influence on those around them.

So just as it is unfair to say that men built civilization, science and art without the support and participation of women, so it is unfair to say that men made wars, genocides and committed crimes without the support and participation of women. Women have always had a large part in the good and the bad in most societies, for most of history.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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