Are black Woman truly the bottom of the barrel

HateSpeechFanBoy · 2022-12-22T07:51:47+00:00

There aren’t many blacks where I live so I don’t have much personal experience. However, whenever I see a black female on TV from burgerland they are so goddam fat a lot of the time. I have also seen stats that black females are overweight and obese at much higher rates. The only way a female’s SMV can decrease in any way is being fat and even then there are plenty of guys who like fat females

KirthWGersen · 2022-12-22T07:00:42+00:00

I'm a white guy and I don't come across many people with black skin where I live now or in any of the countries I have lived in.

In general, I don't tend to find women with black skin particularly attractive. Not because of the colour of their skin, but because of certain physical features that don't fit my personal preferences.

However, I occasionally come across one that I find astoundingly beautiful.

I don't know how our preferences develop, but I think maybe I would find the features that many black women have more attractive if I had grown up around more of them. I'm pretty sure that some men are the opposite: they prefer features that are less familiar to them.

_Duriel_1000_ · 2022-12-22T06:50:02+00:00

Are black Woman truly the bottom of the barrel

Yes. I know most men will try to pussyfoot around the truth to be nice. And that is okay. I dont have that kind of time. Yes. You dont even have to believe me to come to this realization. Just look around. Look at your aunts, moms, sisters, cousins. Are most of them happily married? Probably not. Are they married to the baby daddy? Probably not.

Dont get me wrong, my sistahs look good af. And sometimes, if they aren't too high on themselves, a few are very cordial in the beginning phases of the dating. As the talking continues, the monsters come out. The attitudes come out. The masculinity comes out. And men run for the hills... towards the non-black women.

Many black women are also very abrasive. Loud mouthed. Unpleasant to be around. Oftentimes copping an attitude.

And then, on top of this, they price themselves out of dating. I met this girl a few weeks ago. We exchanged numbers. We would text off and on. I told her to come through and hang out. (I also made a similar offer to a white girl I had met around that time). The black chick turned me down, and the younger, more beautiful white girl accepted and we kicked it.

Fastforward to last week. I invited the black chick to chillis, for a first date. She turned me down saying that she didnt like chillis. She wanted to go to a nicer restaurant.

She has offered nothing but resistance while white girls are much more compliant, easier to get along with, and a host of other positive experiences.

Yes. I dont think black women realize that they are competing against other women. I think black women believe that they own the black man. And that simply isn't the case.

Black women dont have to be at the bottom. They choose to be, for whatever reason(s). I wish it wasnt that way. And I keep shooting my shot with black chicks, but it's getting old quickly. Every time I have a sour interaction with a black chick, which is most often the case, I vouch I'll never talk to another one. Then I see a pretty sistah. Rinse. Repeat.

melody_of_ · 2022-12-22T09:15:40+00:00

The title of your posf is definitely going to be screenshotted as evidence that non bluepill types are racist lmao.

Idk I’m biased as a black woman but it seems like black woman are at the bottom of the dating scene

For women yes. I'd agree it seems to me as if they have the hardest time amongst all women of finding men.

Most men of color are not attracted to black woman and most black men are self hating as hell and only like light skin or nowadays only white woman

I'm really curious what makes you feel like most black men are self hating. Not some like in the sense that some asian men may be self hating but perhaps more? Do you feel a white male would on average be more or less interested in you then his black countrrpart might.

Looking for reasons as to why. Colorism and the white ideal beauty standard definitely play a massive role but i think theres other things to it as well.

Like the black women I notice struggle the most are the ones some would describe as "hood". It seems to be because of the aggressiveness/abrasiveness/belligerence that tends to unfortunately be as common as it is. It seems to scare off some black dudes ESPECIALLY the ones who aren't as integrated into the cultural norms present in low income black communities in the US. The ones who are more culturally integrated seem to love and pursue black women from those communities and the women those men. But I've noticed a lot of the types that are what people wouls derogatorily refer to as "hood" are super shitty to black men who arent "hood" I.E these men are into mainstream hobbies or shit that would be considered "white" or speak with a generic accent that doesn't have any relation to how people from black majority urban communities speak. They seem to treat those men the worst and ramp up the attitude anger other stereotypical behaviors towards those men causing them to run for the hills.

Some say they do this because those types of men look down on and avoid them. But honestly it seems like a chicken and egg problem.

On the flip side, the nerdy black girls who seem far removed from anything considered "hood" seem to have a lot of success all around they tend to be into different subcultures and getting simped on hard by a lot of the guy's it seems like bias against women from certain communities as a larger factor than them being black specifically.

Edit: I checked your account and I just want to say I'm really sorry that your struggling with feeling alone. I know it means nothing im just another "rp misogynist " or some shit. But your post made me realize that even if much rarer there are some women struggling with dating and unfortunately its from those who already are underprivileged and scorned by society.

Last-Post2085 · 2022-12-22T10:35:22+00:00

Black women have the ability to be gorgeous and top tier. I mean just look at this one https://www.stylerave.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/sydneyjharper.jpg. Unfortunately, a lot of the time they are obese (especially in America) and have a very... ghetto "I DUN NEED NO MAN AWW HELL NO!!!" attitude. It's loud, abrasive and obnoxious.

I have a feeling black women who live in European countries are vastly more attractive than the USA ones.

platinirisms · 2022-12-22T10:17:15+00:00

Adding on to what everyone else said, Black women are the fattest group of people in an already obese country.

55% of black women are obese, compare that to just 15% of Asian woman or 38% of white women.

Without taking anything else into account except weight, black women are already at the bottom.

Mydragonurdungeon · 2022-12-22T08:36:37+00:00

Hell no. Fine is fine. If I see a black woman that's fine I'm just as into it as any other race.

Hell there's even features I would say I find attractive which are commonly associated with black women

brokenchico · 2022-12-22T18:23:33+00:00

I don't think black women are bottom of the barrel. I just think they don't make themselves available to men of other races like black men do with women of other races. Many black women don't date outside their race due to a fear of being with someone that is just fetishizing them.

But I must say that as a Latino I find black women very attractive but I don't see the same from them (at least with Latino men) so that's why I will either marry one of my own or a white/asian woman if I ever find someone.

AidsVictim · 2022-12-22T18:48:31+00:00

In the context of ranking difficulty for dating success by women that's probably true.

However it's still quite easy for a reasonably attractive black women to find someone via OLD, including non black men. It's as much an issue on the end of black women not seeking men from certain backgrounds as it is black women being regarded as less attractive. Yes if you're obese and have bad hair you're going to struggle regardless.

As far as some of the comments I see about black women being less socially pleasant than white or Asian women, that hasn't really been my experience (at least as a white guy mostly in the South who has worked with a lot of black women). Yes there are occasionally black women with serious attitude problems or are a little too aggressive socially, but it's not at a much higher rate than the white woman "Karen" stereotype. Maybe in NE cities it's different.

Mostly I think it's an excuse by black men and white women to not feel guilty about their own actions/preferences. I've seen more than once white women defend black men for "dating out" when this sort of thing comes up by saying how cruel or rude black women are to their men. It's easier for black men to get with white women with a black preference so there's a post facto justification for dating out as well - "well my women suck on a personal level so of course I'm dating white women".

Of course the outcome of this is that BMWF couples have....black (well "mixed") children. Perhaps one of the reasons the absent father rate in this pairing is ~95% is because they now often have a "black" daughter, the same type of women they rejected and talked shit about to date someone who doesn't look anything like her.

no_bling_just_ding · 2022-12-22T12:10:56+00:00

according to okcupid yes

i personally would write off a large amount of african american women based on things such as obesity, learned traits from hood culture like being oppositional-defiant towards men, living with a r-strategy, overcompensating with feminist views for their own failed relationships with men, etc but i appreciate some black women who dont have these traits (i am middle eastern, light-skinned.)

SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-12-22T14:34:17+00:00

Personally, I liked some black women when I was dating (the thin ones), I think a lot of people hit the nail on the head because most black women are obese.

I will say though, my friends (some MoC, some white) absolutely would just pass on every black woman, even the hot ones.

debatelord_1 · 2022-12-22T09:23:21+00:00

Chocolate > curry and rice

Scooby-Doo14 · 2022-12-22T11:58:05+00:00

I like Chocolate

revente · 2022-12-22T12:43:23+00:00

Yes. Least attractive race visually.

And according to what i see online also the worst, loudest, most obnoxious personalities.

lovestocomment · 2022-12-22T14:53:02+00:00

Yes when it comes to dating and marriage preferences.

Most black men are not self hating, even the ones that exercise their options. A matter of fact most men prefer to date within their ethnicity dew to visual familiarity.

What you and millions of other western black women do not understand, is that it's not your skin color that puts you at the bottom of the dating and marriag preferences. It's your attitude, non family oriented, entitlement and Egos.

The reason Asian women are prefered, is not just looks. They are submissive, family oriented, they are soft, not entitled and do not have massive egos. That adds to their attraction.

Attraction is not just physical. Men actually care about presentation and personality.

Simply put, if you're 10 looks wise but persona wise you're a 2. I'll smash and move on.

If you're a 5 and you have a 10 persona, I'll marry you.

It's a you problem, not a black men problem.

nothatyoucare · 2022-12-22T15:06:15+00:00

I'm a white guy who dated a black woman.

dk I’m biased as a black woman but it seems like black woman are at the bottom of the dating scene

Nah, you're not a man. You just don't get it as easy as other women.

Most men of color are not attracted to black woman and most black men are self hating as hell and only like light skin or nowadays only white woman

From the outside looking in one thing I can see happening is black women see how white women use their victimhood to silence white men and want to emulate that. Except they can't do that with black men as black men are hunted for sport by the police etc. and so black men have their own legitimate problems to deal with and therefore won't be silenced or controlled by a woman trying to play the victimhood card. The whole "black men are self hating as hell" hints at exactly what I'm talking about.

The weird thing is I have a better chance with a white man than with a Asian man or other men of color

Yeah I got some flack over in livestreamfail over my thoughts and feelings of the "racism against Asian Americans"

more obsessed with light skin then the white men themselves

I think Nikki Perkins, Fátima Diame, and Oluchi Onweagba pretty hot.

Bottom line is black women just gonna have to do more approaching then other women. If white men, Asian men, etc know you find them attractive you'll do better. A lot of white men don't even know black women would consider us.

ummizazi · 2022-12-22T15:35:52+00:00

I’m black women, I dated black exclusively for most of my life. I had a perception that other races of men wouldn’t be interested. When I opened myself to other options I found them pretty easily.

I have had little problem finding white men that are interested. Seriously I can pull white dudes with no problem. Latino guys and MENA guys are also pretty easy. East Asian and south Asian are rarer but not impossible.

I think a big issue is that a lot of black women ignore other races of men. I can date a white guy who makes 100k way easier than black guy making 100k. I know quite a few white men who prefer black women but can’t pull any because so few of them date out.

Black women aren’t everyone’s cup of tea but there’s enough interest out there to not be left out.

keepin2002 · 2022-12-22T16:21:11+00:00

Nope tf

tired_hillbilly · 2022-12-22T17:08:24+00:00

Aisha Tyler is super cute.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2022-12-22T17:37:09+00:00

most black men are self hating as hell and only like light skin or nowadays only white woman

This is a fukking lie, most black men are with black women and those women are not light skinned.

Peacesquad · 2022-12-22T19:31:30+00:00

Asian men and black women have the lowest approval ratings on dating sites and that’s statistical fact. If you dive deeper women have said Asian men are very feminine yet Asian men are the top 5 earners in United States

As a black man I find all women attractive. And I mean Asian Latina black dark skin light skin white women etc.

I wouldn’t say black women are bottom of the barrel at all. There’s gorgeous women of all skins and shades in the world.

Green-Quantity1032 · 2022-12-23T01:30:03+00:00

This post is copied..

I'm sure I've seen it already

Is there a way to check?

EDIT:

Might not be, but jesus it's the same as a post I've seen years ago.

Anyway, to the point - I'm white, I live in a mostly white area (non-USA).

I thought I wasn't attracted to black girls, but lately I've seen one who was really attractive. So I'd say the standard is higher for black girls, at least when it comes to me specifically being attracted.

Title	Are black Woman truly the bottom of the barrel
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