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Being ethnic is as bad as being 5'4'' according to studies. (Racepill Part 1)

MachiNarci
December 24, 2022
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Crosspost "Being ethnic is as bad as being 5'4'' according to studies. (Racepill Part 1)" from /r/BlackPillScience:

Data Set #1

Data Set #2

In the first data set you see variable coefficient for women's race preferences in the red box.

In the second set, you see coefficents for women's preference for men height

As you can notice, regardless of male height, race variables always have a bigger coefficient (meaning it has more impact than height regardless of how short or tall) http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/guenter.hitsch/papers/Mate-Preferences.pdf

Graph #1

Graph #2

Graph #3

As you can see, 65-70% of white women and a big chunk of women of your own race write you off from the get go if you are not white. When you look at how short is undateable for women, its ranging between 5'2''-5'5'' depending on women height answering the question.

Based on studies, if you are average height ethnic you are as worse off as a 5'3'' white person everything else being equal.

That's why I always say race is almost as important as face. and that's real. Proven right by studies.

(Credit to 13k on incels.me for these, just porting these over from there)

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Title Being ethnic is as bad as being 5'4'' according to studies. (Racepill Part 1)
Author MachiNarci
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Date December 24, 2022 3:41 AM UTC (3 months ago)
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Comments

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 3 points4 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

The race pill as it's called is 100% true and it can work heavily for you or unbearably against you, depending on your race and location.

[–]holdmebebi 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

i think it's age dependant too, these are the 2003 stats but it wouldn't describe the experience of your average high schooler in a diverse area

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

I honestly believe it was better back then. More young men were having sex in 2003 compared to now.

[–]holdmebebi 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

it was because the average white guy had an advantage over average ethnic dude, nowadays average white guy also doesn't get much shit and they are also the majority of the population so their inceldom effects the stats more.

now there's BLM stuff, kpop, wokeness, def more stuff for ethnics.

why are white dudes in america discussing about seamaxxing, latammaxxing or even africamaxxing? because being white has no significant advantage in the west anymore.think of it like this, let's say in 2002 5/10 white had advantage oevr both 5/10 and even 8/10 indian, nowadays 8/10 indian beats both.

actually my zoomer friend is seeing white girls racemix more than the guys now.

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

now there's BLM stuff, kpop, wokeness, def more stuff for ethnics.

I agree about Kpop but wokeness and BLM isn't getting black men laid anymore.

it was because the average white guy had an advantage over average ethnic dude,

I still think he does, especially with non-white women but his standing with white women us just about done. White women are focused on the top 15% and they are not budging.

[–]holdmebebi 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

lol, even asian dudes refuse the kpoppill because they are too lazy to looksmaxx

white women would rather have 8/10 indian than 5/10 white guy, is my point, i think that's fair enough to end the racepill argument, even if it's not necessarily making it easier for a 4/10 indian.

as for non-white women sleeping with mediocre white men, at least in places where there isn't huge socio-economic disadvantages(such as columbia, africa, etc.) i've only really seen this with a subsection of asian women, i feel other ethnic women get unfair rep because of this. (not saying they never date wite men, more like they don't date a white guy that would be -3 smv of the ethnic dude they would date)

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

white women would rather have 8/10 indian than 5/10 white guy

This is definitely not true in Germany or the U.S A, tall, fit Indian men are either with Indian women or are alone here in Germany.

as for non-white women sleeping with mediocre white men, at least in places where there isn't huge socio-economic disadvantages(such as columbia, africa, etc.) i've only really seen this with a subsection of asian women, i feel other ethnic women get unfair rep because of this

Where do you live? Because this pairing( subpar white man/ pretty non-white woman) is extremely common in any western country. This is the primary reason why white men are going to non- majority white countries to date and marry because they know they can pull way prettier ethnic women than they could white women

[–]holdmebebi 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

looking through the stats, it seems dating out or marrying out is only really a high number with asian women(in usa) and latina women... however, latino men are also the men white women get with the most outside white men...

i feel like this comes from ''white-hispanic'' types making a good chunk of those pairings on both sides(so it's not truly ir), but i could be wrong.

it just seems funny to me ''racepill'' gets discussed the most in arguably the time white men are at their weakest(i honestly wasn't seeing discussions about this in 2002-2012 internet , maybe unless if i was in weird, obscure corners) is it because of the geomaxxing phenomenon?

maybe white men(and non-white men) should stop simping for onlyfans girls or mediocre women in the west so they don't get too entitled? men are partly to blame for women's ''hypergamy'' i noticed men in asian countries had harsher beuaty standards on women and the women who fit them perfectly(which is very rare) usually don't date white or non-asian men either. the rest who don't fit into the beauty standards have lower standards on men they date. (both asian and non-asian)

another issue is looksmaxxing, women are more sensitive to face, mannerisms and decoration/clothing than men are, however things like makeup and fashion are considered ''girly'' and male gaze beard and muscles type is adviced instead, incels nowadays discovered ''female gaze'' but it's a bit too late.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

and Black Men tbh

Also Hispanics are actually white just saying

[–]Dull-Individual-2565 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Also Hispanics are actually white just saying

If that's true then they should be doing 1:1 with WM but they clearly are calculated at a downgrade, only very slightly better than BM

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

depends on the hispanic, some are black, some are native, some are a mix.

one of my friends is %50/% 25 black/%25 native and classified as hispanic, his mother was from venezuela while his dad was a regular white.

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

there is one thing i don't get

if being white is such a great advantage, then why is dark skin a bigger failo on women than on men?

dark skin is seen as masculine in modern times, which is honestly emasculating to white men when you think about it

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Well Darker skin is seen as more Masculine, Stronger and Intimidating, which is why Black Men have this advantage off being viewed as Superior Physically:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/health/black-men-larger-study-trnd/index.html

Lighter skin is seen as softer and feminine.

[–]puririnpa -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

again, black men are worshipped in america to an almost cucked extent due to media being ran by (them)

jbw is cope, at least in modern times

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

jbw only works on self hating non white women if we are being real

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

only 4/10 noodles, not even actually hot women.

[–]holdmebebi 3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

maybe in the past but in 2022 among zoomers 8/10 indian mogs 5/10 blonde

these are 2003 stats, it's literally 20 years behind

[–]Dull-Individual-2565 1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

May have been true in '03 but I think the equivalent these days is a 6 foot ethnic man is probably on the same level of a 5'6 ish white dude.

[–]holdmebebi -1 points0 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

nah height and face definitely triumphs race among zoomers

it definitely used to be worse among milennials, where going for black men wasn't really taken seriously other than sexual taboo, and saying ''i don't date asians/i don't consider them men'' was actually more acceptable, zoomer whites of both male and female kind are honestly less racist than millennials.(even to ethnic females, milennials were more cruel to darker skinned or heavily ethnic looking females)

nowadays i'm seeing fangirling over east asian, black/mulatto, hispanic all being normalized on zoomer social media, how is this worse than what was in 2003?

[–]Dull-Individual-2565 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Your race is still the singular most important thing based on apps

Whites are obviously at the top. But the rest of us are pretty close to each other.

Honestly, I've never personally felt inferior to a white dude shorter than me and not as good looking as me and it didn't matter that women didn't feel the same way.

[–]holdmebebi 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

the thing is those app researches were like in 2009 or 2014 at the latest, no one bothered to actually get a good data of this in 2020's or in a year where online dating is actually relevant.

one way you can tell it is old data is how many matches black women got, they got less than ethnic men in 2009 but nowadays if a broom had a female name it wouldn't get any less matches than anything male.

[–]Dull-Individual-2565 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Well yeah, I mean I knew Black women that had a lot of white dudes in their DM's trying to hit.

Women>Men more than ever. Maybe even Trannys>Men

[–]holdmebebi 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

transgender porn was one of the most viewed in 2022, straight men don't exist now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women swipe on 4% of Men.

These are the Men that are fucking all the women:

https://youtu.be/E6leu1tLMWY

Most white males(99%) can’t do this, let go of this race pill cope.

Race pill is for ugly people who want to blame something on. Everyone should be able to smash within their race.

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

the thing is those studies are from , as i said in another comment, 20 years ago

it doesn't tell you about the experience of some guy in a diverse area in high school or college in gen z

yes race is cope.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

even white males know jbw is cope

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is flawed thinking lol 6 foot good looking ethnic dudes are bagging top girls of their race and other races, I see this with Black Males all the time.

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

racepill cope comes from failed ethniccels who need some kind of cope to feel better about their own lack of success, and mayocels who would like to think their women are super race loyal(no they are not)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah lol race loyalty is the biggest cope, look at Nick cannon for example. That’s proof women are hypergamous

[–]Impossible_Ad4588 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

60yo 5'5 skinnyfat white dude is above 6'3 fit ethnic.

[–]EnteFetz 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What the fuck does the word "ethnic" mean? Everyone has an ethnicity

[–]holdmebebi 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

not-white, though this doesn't mean much it's a cherrypicked sample from 2003, jbb>jbw now.

[–]SolidPuzzleheaded984 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are these stats from 2022?

Sorry I know K-pop 6’2 GenZ dudes that get so much here in Canada compared to avg white dude

[–]Green-Quantity1032 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are jews white?

What about middle-eastern?

[–]WindowVisible1942 -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The "racepill" is an incel cope. Edomite (so-called White) men make up majority of the incels, so based off that fact alone the "racepill" is debunked. Only Moabite and Ammonite (so-called Oriental) women and Japhite (so-called Hispanic) women are desperate enough to date Edomite men that nobody else wants.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW / janitor -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Edomite (so-called White) men make up majority of the incels, so based off that fact alone the "racepill" is debunked.

they don't they're the majority on some forums and it's only by a much slimmer margin than they are on reddit

[–]WindowVisible1942 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They actually do make up majority of the incels on all forums and it's by a large margin. Y'all always tey to cope and lie about the numbers but we can clearly see that Edomite (so-called White) men are majority of the incels on the internet in general not just Reddit.

[–]ThrowawayDoeEyed1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean for women yes since most men consider dark skin masculine

[–]holdmebebi 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

tbh i'm seeing more zoomer light skinned guys who don't really mind darker skin on tiktok, etc. too

i think zoomers of both gender are less racist than milennials

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy -2 points-1 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Hitler didn’t lose world war 2. His ideas live through

[–]Dull-Individual-2565 -1 points0 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

His ideas were better than whatever the hell the US/Jews have done to us anyway. He knew hollywood was up to good with their propaganda. He didn't have a problem with ethnic men as long as they were civilized (Chinese, Japanese etc)

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

He would probably kill me though

[–]holdmebebi 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

well koreans (and people who resemble them, so japanese too) have higher smv among zoomers than in the past now, due to k-media.

also jews did emasculate both whites and all other ethnics rather than picking one side, they just troll everyone.

tinder is made by jews too lmao, i mean i wouldn't go that far to say it was propaganda too but online dating was always shady to me

[–]Dull-Individual-2565 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Jews practically control every aspect of our lives. From our media to what we eat, to what we dress that day. Hitler was trying to save us from the worst timeline.

Read up on the committee of 300.

They literally live life on another dimension imo

[–]holdmebebi 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

they ''could'' be behind why iq and testosteroen levels are lower now despite people claiming ''female choice will improve quality''

anyways don't trust online dating

[–]Dull-Individual-2565 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

It's crazy though. I've legit never heard of a jewish incel. I've met even White incels but not Jewish incels. They formed some sort of system that only benefits them, I swear.

[–]holdmebebi 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

they look like big nosed whites anyway

also this made me think about another theory i had, whitecels joke about ''black pp'' shit being jewish pushed a lot which is probably true but another thing they are delusional about is... yellowfever wave milennial men had(zoomers are less picky about what ethnicity, but it still continues) probably has the roots of jewish elites projecting their sexual taste on general population of men(esp white), this is why i laugh when i see some stormfrontcel go on about how traditional and ''non-degen'' noodlegirls are. do you agree with my theory?

i mean.. white men sexualizing other races of women isn't unusual at all, the unusual thing is that they used to be more... ''anything goes'' about this while after hollywood, american men disproportionally target noodles ignoring other WOC in media.

if ur asian you have kpoop to pushback this or at least push amwf with it now tho

[–]Dull-Individual-25651 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

White men made Korean women get double eyelid surgery in the 50's because of how repulsive they looked to them.

[–]holdmebebi 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

legit white men unironically liked even certain kinds black women more(high amount of white dna among black-americans and even some african countries don't lie, whereas korea was colonized more by japan than anywhere else)

then dumb stormfrontcels push jewish trends as ''tradition'' lmao

you can look it up, original yellow fever was memed on jewish men before it rubbed off to whites.

this can be reversed though if other asian countries follow the example of modern day korea pushing more men rather than mainly just women in their soft power

[–]Dull-Individual-25651 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Most Black americans are literally descendants of WMBF

[–]JoeRMD77 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Incels talk a lot about plastic surgery and they even mentioned getting their legs broken for height surgery but no one ever talks about doing the Michael Jackson bleaching your skin white thing.

Not being white is going to be a major barrier to getting white women. And white guys are so spoiled that even a short fat ones think we're Chad because too many of our own kind got drunk and validated us.

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

these stats are old as fuck, there's no race loyalty left in any group in 2022:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6leu1tLMWY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRx2v4Pbha8

honestly jbb in 2022>jbw (jbk will probably surpass jbw too in 10 years) i think those old studies are reposted over and over again so mayocels don't realize they are being cucked.

i isn't white supremacy now, it's jew supremacy.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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