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Blackpillers: Why do you hate being encouraged?

6ix_Destroyed
February 18, 2023
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Title Blackpillers: Why do you hate being encouraged?
Author 6ix_Destroyed
Upvotes 4
Comments 28
Date February 18, 2023 3:01 PM UTC (1 month ago)
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Blackpillers: Why can't we just accept that life is unfair and that attractive people have advantages and that we're unfortunately just not as attractive as we'd like? This way, we don't harbor resentment.

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Blackpillers: What is Your Honest Response to This?

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[–]Constant_Ad6906 8 points9 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

I think mainly because people who try to encourage us lack understanding of our beliefs so when bluepill trys to give advice we reject it because we already told you that looks are more important than personality or confidence. If you wanted to encourage us in a way that fit in line with our beliefs like the best way to looksmaxing or gymmaxing you may find a more receptive audience.

[–]6ix_Destroyed[S] 0 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

I see. Well, hitting the gym is indeed something extremely helpful (in fact, it's obviously part of your looks, which blackpillers deem as the most important thing). But yet blackpillers don't hit the gym, and don't take encouragement even there seriously. Very contradictory; am I missing something?

[–]LainselBluePill 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

But yet blackpillers don't hit the gym,

How do you know that? Did you take a survey from their forums about their weight and gym habits or are you just saying that because that's what self improvement gurus told you about "blackpillers"? Last time I was on Discord, half the incel servers like Tails' one had 100s of roided gymcels posting

[–]6ix_Destroyed[S] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Wow didn't know that. Respect for gymming. Why don't they just turn into a workout forum then instead of uniting over "blackpill"?

[–]LainselBluePill 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because muscles don't make women attracted to you. Fun fact, one of the earliest blackpill forums was the misc on the bodybuilding forum. I remember the guys would get ripped then wonder why they were still unattractive to women (the ugly ones).

[–]6ix_Destroyed[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait so why are they working out then?

[–]LainselBluePill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It becomes a hobby even if they are still unattractive. I remember a lot of the guys from the misc ended up competing in bodybuilding competitions professionally and most aspired to.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I’m a blackpiller, I’ve been going the gym 4 times a week for 5+ years.

Some blackpillers feel that even if they did go the gym and get muscles, their other factors like height, skin colour, and facial features are too ugly for it to have an impact.

But you have others like myself who use the Blackpill to Looksmax and become the best version of ourselves. It depends who you’re talking to.

[–]6ix_Destroyed[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Damn respect to you. Can I ask why you still like to identity as a "blackpiller"?

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because I still believe looks are the most critical factor in determining a man’s success with women, nothing else even comes close to it.

[–]6ix_Destroyed[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Who do you think would do better: (1) a rated 9 man with little confidence or (2) a rated 6 man with great confidence?

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A 9 with little confidence. I personally know a guy like this and despite his lack of personality, he’s had several women wanting his attention. The moment my friend opened up her relationship, she immediately started a FwB with him.

I’ve never seen any 6/10 have it that easy regardless of their confidence.

[–]Constant_Ad6906 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

am I missing something?

Yes. You are correct that the gym does help with your overall look but the gym can only do so much for your face. There a saying within the blackpill "there is no gym for your face." There isn't much the gym and do for you if you're just ugly. That why looksmaxing is a thing while gymmaxing and help your face (the most thing that determines if you're attractive to women.) Looksmaxing puts a bigger emphasis on the face.

[–]6ix_Destroyed[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

An ugly face with a good body is still better than an ugly face with an ugly/mediocre body though. If they think that looks matter so much, shouldn't they be doing everything possible to maximize their looks?

[–]Constant_Ad6906 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If they think that looks matter so much, shouldn't they be doing everything possible to maximize their looks?

They should be.

[–]tired_hillbilly 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

If they think that looks matter so much, shouldn't they be doing everything possible to maximize their looks?

Not necessarily. What if you're so far gone all your efforts will be a waste? Kinda seems like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

[–]Constant_Ad6906 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't know if your efforts will go to waste. Seems like to me most men you say this are looking for a excuse not to change their situation.

[–]LainselBluePill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just go lean. It's honestly not hard

[–]pikecat 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I can tell you from personal experience that confidence does make a difference. People read body language to tell so much about you. Then you talk and reveal more of your confidence, or lack thereof. Talking is a huge part making you look good. You can read a girl and tell if she becomes interested in you, or loses interest, if she's dtf or the moment that changes in her, all based on you talking. It's mostly not based on what you actually say, but the way you talk. I would say that practicing you social skills is much more useful than going to the gym.

[–]Constant_Ad6906 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I think it goes face body then social skills. All three are important but without looks the other are basically worthless. That's why looksmaxing is so important.

[–]pikecat 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I would say social skills are most important, because you can't change much about your base looks. Therefore that's the one you can do most about.

But there is more to looks than you think. There's your stance, facial expression, how you carry yourself, gait, and more words that I forget, and how expressive you are and what's in you to be expressed. Having the right set of these makes a huge difference. People mistake this for innate looks when they are actually malleable. It's not easy to change. It's also the reason that you can tell what country people are from when they're all the same race, like Europe or east Asia.

No one talks about this, but it's something that I figured out, unintentionally.

Your dead body photo is one thing, but how you make your body live and expressive is what makes the difference. Think of the difference between the "life of the party" and the wallflower. Humans are tuned to your personality shining out on your exterior. Women are particularly tuned to seeing this way.

I think that people who are not good with people are oblivious to this, that other people can see, that's why they consider base looks the main thing. Going from not being good at reading people is like going from seeing in black and white to being able to see colour. Change your internal self, and it shines out for all to see, it makes you look much more attractive. It's hard to do, but is doable.

[–]Constant_Ad6906 -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Change your internal self, and it shines out for all to see, it makes you look much more attractive. It's hard to do, but is doable.

Alright ill work on it and see what happens.

[–]pikecat 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a big effort and takes about 10 years. It changes who you are, it also takes you away from things that you like to do on your own.

[–]debatelord_1 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh geee I don't know why people are sick of having empty platitudes shoved down their throats.

[–]6ix_Destroyed[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sarcastic arrogance. Blackpiller confirmed.

[–]debatelord_1 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotta be confident bro

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Encourage to make fun of you. "Now you have to call Mike Tyson for a fight. You have to try, just more confidence and you'll win."

[–]caption291 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Encouraging someone and attempting to convince them to do something that they don't believe will work is not the same thing.

Neither of those things is inherently upsetting, but doing the latter and framing it as the former is.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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