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Courtney Ryan: "This Is Why Men Don't Approach Women Anymore"

RatDontPanic
November 20, 2022
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Title Courtney Ryan: "This Is Why Men Don't Approach Women Anymore"
Author RatDontPanic
Upvotes 2
Comments 32
Date November 20, 2022 10:43 AM UTC (4 months ago)
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Comments

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This video is extremely notable in that she calls out women for putting men on blast and calling them creeps (Tiktok, etc) for approaching them while also pointing out that certain actions by men (nonconsentual touching, catcalling, etc) is in fact creepy and needs to stop.

She put up a poll asking how many men are hesitant to approach women out of fear of being seen as "creepy" and 35,000 men voted. 54% were hesitant to approach women for that reason and 11% avoid women altogether for that reason. So 65% of those 35,000 men are to some level deterred from talking to women at all for fear of being called a creep.

I like how she didn't ignore men who are actually creepy while showing moments of serious empathy for men who are scared of being falsely accused. A great video to watch!

[–]Necessary-Worry1923 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I wish Courtney would bring in her fiance in one session and share their dating experiences with her fans. There must be 300,000 guys out there following her.

https://www.theknot.com/us/courtney-ryan-and-teddy-baldassarre-jun-2023

How did she navigate hypergammy, Chad's versus nice guys, did she have a promiscous phase or not etc.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That is a valid take. I'd like to know that, too.

[–]Outrageous-Post-1592 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

https://youtu.be/5NYQB5c3kSM At 4:20 & 4:53 she discusses a couple exes treating her badly. So make of that what you will in terms of a past

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy 10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

The word “creepy” is a meaningless word to shame non Chads. It is never “creepy” if you are a Chad

[–]NotARussianBot1984 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yup i stopped listening when she said cat calling. I still remember the day my highschool chad friend picked up a random girl and her friend, and brought her to his place after talking to them out of the car window. She even had a boyfriend but ended up making out with him that day.

Literally cant go wrong if you are Chad.

A chad friend in university came by when i was talking to this hot girl. The dude is so dumb and deep monotone, least charmastic guy ever, who is even self depreciating. Yet this girls face lit up like a Xmas tree as if every word he said was charismatic.

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yep, I think pretty much everyone has seen Chads break all these shitty rules that females make and get rewarded. I don’t understand why females double down when you confront them that Chad is allowed to do anything he wants

[–]NotARussianBot1984 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because if they are honest, then the bottom 80% men wouldn't maintain civil society.

[–]SilentFroggy 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Or maybe women will lose their rights…?

[–]New-Car-1828 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do people still believe in anything that comes out of the mouth a PUA or dating coach?

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dr. Nerdlove has some good advice, he just shits all over it with male feminist simp-ese. Like when he addressed this very same issue and said "well you men should bear the emotional risk of rejection because women are just as afraid."

[–]Jihocech_Honza 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I am a married man and I am glad and grateful I am done with approaching women, dating, Game, flirting...

If I become a divorcee or a widower, I will devote my life to my children, to my friends, hobbies and my job, in this order. The older I am, the more I appreciate peace and solitude.

[–]INTP-1 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

That is a very noble goal.

[–]Jihocech_Honza -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

There is nothing noble about it, it is a hobbit´s way. I do not need much for myself. A warm dry place for my bed and bookcase and laptop, clean water and electricity. I have already bought all the books I want to read and downloaded all the movies I want to watch. I can wear the same T-shirts and jeans for the next ten years. I am not rich, but I earn much more than I need.

[–]INTP-1 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, you could go for the purely selfish play and forget about your responsibility to those around you, but clearly you are not in that camp, therefore I consider such a thing noble in the current degenerated culture of selfishness and hedonism. Maybe being a normal human is an act of defiance today.

[–]Jihocech_Honza 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

act of defiance

Or contrarevolution?

I hope more people will just live their lives, raise children, read books and enjoy good beer and conversation.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If I become a divorcee or a widower, I will devote my life to my children, to my friends, hobbies and my job, in this order.

Yet another truly based post!

[–]Any-Bottle-4910 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I saw a lotof this activity on all fronts from all sides, apart from cat-calling which I’ve only seen 2-3x in 50 years. As a former 19 year bartender, I had so many coworkers who would ask me to kick out or kickass some “creepy guy”. Sometimes, he’d be a creep, but far more often he was just unattractive. I’d then see a good looking guy do the exact same thing a week later and she’d be all aflutter and ask if she could “just work his side of the bar for now.”

The entitlement. The audacity. The drama. The double standard…. Ugh.

Don’t come at me, men have their own bullshit behaviors.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah both genders have their bullshit behaviors. I like how Courtney Ryan did call out the actual creepy behavior by men. She came across as very balanced.

Thing is, online dating offers a chance to meet women without having to speak to someone who doesn't want to talk or use telepathy"read the room" to see if she's up for being chatted up. No wonder so many men flood into that venue looking for someone!

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Even as a Manlet Chad (my face is Chad-like and Ive got six pack abs and am building muscle but I'm a 5'6" turbo manlet), I am too scared to approach short women in public. Because I'm not going to be every girl's type. And some short girls want a 6' tall Chad too. At my local gym there was this short fit Asian girl who was bending over in her exercises in front of me. But I didnt want to assume that was a signal for me to approach. Because I don't want to get banned from my gym for making her uncomfortable. That gym is close to my home and has all the equipment I need. I can't afford to lose that gym membership. Without the gym, I will go back to being skinnyfat and scrawny and invisible to most women at 5'6". Whereas I can at least run cheekbone/jawline and body game now.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But I didnt want to assume that was a signal for me to approach. Because I don't want to get banned from my gym for making her uncomfortable.

Nobody understands this risk that men face. When we do step on this landmine and it goes off, it's like oh well, tough luck dude!

[–]Secret-Ad8479 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't watch

[–]Rook_Cross -5 points-4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Men being cowardly is not women's fault. Most of them will not call you a creep or laugh at you. If you want to build that fear up in your head, so be it, but it is a you issue, not a female issue. Women do get creeped on, screamed at groped, though I would say it's uncommon, so they are on their guard a lot of times. But if you're sensible and don't freak out at rejection, it's not going to be a scene. People these days are soft and can't deal with rejection and things not going their way and look for excuses as to why it's not their fault and someone else is to blame. They look for reasons to not even try at all. Women like these like to feed into RP type's delusions. it doesn't help them at the end of the day, though it may make them feel good for a bit. I've seen a couple of her videos before. She just tells men what they want to hear but tempers it a bit better with some lip service to maybe it not all being modern women's fault, than some other RP channels. men who are afraid to approach women, IT'S YOU and YOU need to work through your fear by putting yourself out there.

[–]Secret-Ad8479 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cope

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men being cowardly is not women's fault.

Oh my god this simp logic. Fuck this bullshit, women don't put themselves out there and take risks by approaching men. Fuck this male feminist garbage making excuses for women and their fear of making the first move. Fuck this hypocrisy about men having to do all the work in courtship while the women sit back and act like they're judging a talent contest. And especially fuck to hell the hypocritical bullshit about men having the burden of having to make the first move. If you want these low quality spineless women then have at it and find some other male willing to dance like a monkey to peddle your nonsense to. You will find nothing but seething hostility from me. And none of your "bitterboy" accusations mean shit to me or all the other men who have decided not to listen to simps like you.

Oh and you didn't even address the fact that women absolutely WILL record guys who try to talk to them and humiliate them just for sport. Even the dudes who weren't acting creepy. Nowadays lots of women out there just like to make sport of men. And you expect men of today to risk that? Dude, kick rocks.

Oh yeah I forgot... my wife approached me first. So yeah some women have the spine to do just that. Keep simping dude. Dance for the women's organ grinder!

[–]MegaGigaTeraBased 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

50 IQ post

imagine being this much of a simp and a white knight lmfao

[–]INTP-1 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree her poll has some statistical significance, but we should keep in mind, any men following her are likely to be very thirsty and lonely. So her poll is going to have a rather strong selection bias.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

"Likely to be"... I don't think there's a cross section you can cut out of any male population group of that size where the percentages would move significantly from what she found, unless you literally found a whole population of Chads.

Women need to actually listen to this, the number of men who aren't trying anymore is growing not shrinking and they're not all just a bunch of losers.

[–]INTP-1 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women need to actually listen to this

I agree, but I'm just telling you what the naysayers are going to instantly latch onto to completely dismiss this shit out of hand. It is a serious problem, and it is growing. Those are facts, and anybody who says otherwise is coping.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True, ignorant people are gonna stay ignorant.

[–]TheRedPillRipperRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"On the other side of fear; is success." ~ Eric Thomas

[–]10throwawayantsy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't really care. Would much rather meet up with someone from an app where it's mutually decided that we both think we're physically attractive.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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