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Do redpillers really believe sexual strategy is amoral?

iliyb
February 17, 2023
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If so why do they moralize female sexuality so much?

Things like a woman riding the cc untill she turn a certain age and decides to settle down with a beta male seems to cause a lot of moral outrage among red pillers so what gives?

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Title Do redpillers really believe sexual strategy is amoral?
Author iliyb
Upvotes 6
Comments 29
Date February 17, 2023 9:27 AM UTC (1 month ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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Comments

[–]Peacesquad 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sexuality is amoral. Assholes get sex. Some nice guys get sex

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill Janitor 2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

People who moralize about anything in life are complete losers and copers who cannot let go of their just-world fallacy. Red pillers, right wingers, lefties and vegans, all of them live in a religious delusion following made up morals.

Morals are man made, they dont exist and nobody should have them.

[–]LainselBluePill 7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Morals are man made, they dont exist and nobody should have them.

Lol what?

[–]TaxNegative161 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

We didn't find morals in a cave. We collectively agreed certain things were shit.

[–]LainselBluePill 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Even if that's true, how is a world without moral codes which trickle down to laws better than a world with moral codes and laws?

[–]TaxNegative161 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Even if it is true? Do you think there's a chance we found morals under a rock or something?

[–]LainselBluePill -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Depends on what you define as "morals".

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

No, it does not.

[–]LainselBluePill 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Moral sense can be pretty innate bro. Obviously, social constructs also exist and people can be nurtured with things like religion too but there are universal innate reactions to certain "bad" things in most humans outside psychopaths

[–]iliyb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone has moral and political values.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Morals are Civilization basics.

Humans work in communities just like Ants and Monkeys do, if we dont meet basic civilized standards we get Thug Life Criminality, these arent human only, they are basics of intelectual life, a Ant or a dolphin with the same level of intelectual capacity of a human would have the same civilized standards with adaptation differences in culture to their biology and that would be that.

[–]hari_hbp 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's about desirability.

They believe that the men she got with while in her cc phase was more sexually desired by her while the men she gets with after "maturing" isn't desired like the ones before.

Personally, I wouldn't know. I've never been the former guy and probably end up as the latter guy.

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

Things like a woman riding the cc untill she turn a certain age and decides to settle down with a beta male seems to cause a lot of moral outrage among red pillers so what gives?

One day, an extremely lonely and sexless loser wrote his theory on how women really work that conveniently reinforced his existing world view. Other sad and sexless men read it too and loved it for the same reasons.

Cc doesn't exist. Afbb doesn't exist. All of it is stupid horseshit and detached from reality.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill Janitor 5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

u/h1shman can probably attest to women in general having a dual mating strategy. Hes fairly gl and had many women in his life. Currently in a relationship, so in other words a far cry from the lonely sexless loser you've described.

Darwin noted the behavior in animals 200 years ago in the origin of species. He also said that human is an animal like any other and that we evolved on the very same premises. Evolution occours when only the best genes are selected by the female every generation. But resources from the inferior male can still be used, why not? Remember there is no morality in nature, the place from were we evolved.

However, I think its far more interesting pondering on why you have such resistance to this behavorial model, rather than trying to prove its validity. It seems to me you would label this behavior as 'morally bad' and if it were proven true, then women by extension would be 'bad'.

This valuation and moralizing of animalistic drives and behaviors make no sense. If women select only the best genes, imagine how grateful their sons and daughters will be. And our species as a whole will grow more tall, ethereal, intelligent and beautiful. Evolution through sexual selection is just rule of nature, its not a bad or immoral thing. If we really had to value it as something it should be seen as a good thing. Many men will be disregarded and left behind, sure, but its still a net positive.

[–]h1shman 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the shout out brah. I think irl the AA/BB plays out fairly often. Just like many men melt around a beautiful women, women do the same for a small subset of men. Women quickly devolve into primal behaviors in the right situations and context. It’s both less socially acceptable and much more rare for women to do this so it’s not talked about as much.

[–]LainselBluePill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's a flawed naturalistic fallacy but also a fantasy.

Women have sex with chad from Tinder for recreational purposes not for reproductive purposes. Most women in the US won't even mother children and families and if they do, they'll most likely have to settle for the genes of their betabuxxer's.

Secondly, in literally every single 1st world nation, the birth rates are near replacement level and most have ageing populations. Even in France, it's North African immigrants that reproduce the most. If you think only chad Muslims get married and have kids then I'm laughing

On the other hand, most men reproduce and breed like rabbits in the countries with the highest birth rates in sub saharan Africa and again, if you think only Somali chad is having kids then I'm laughing. Human genes are not being "cleansed" just because women in LA get ordered by chad like pizza to his apartment and then they hop on plan b lol

[–]TaxNegative161 -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Wow. So he's a loser and a cult leader. Good shit.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill Janitor 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I personally agree that hes somewhat of a loser because he manipulates his own body with external substances, trt and stuff like that.

On the cult thing though, thats just a wierd thing to say. I bet him and I disagree on most topics, but his experience can be a resource in this scenario for understanding sexual dynamics and general human behavior. Is Darwin a cult leader too?

[–]TaxNegative161 -3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It was a joke at the fact that you typed a biography that I didn't read for calling his made up bullshit made up bullshit.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill Janitor 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thats fine I guess, but apparently the other guys reply was too short for your liking? Please make up your mind, dont go all schizo like this.

[–]TaxNegative161 -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

[–]Constant_Ad6906 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Cope

[–]TaxNegative161 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Struggling to form a reply big boy? Lol

[–]Constant_Ad6906 -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I did give a reply what do you mean?

[–]TaxNegative161 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh sorry. I guess our standards for a reply differ. If I saw a post and then responded with one word I wouldn't consider it a reply so much as an admission that I'm really mad but can't formulate an argument against it.

[–]Constant_Ad6906 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its not the length of a reply that matters but meaning is. Cope is effective because of the implied meaning. Cope bolis down paragraphs to a single word. Its all I need.

[–]EviessVeralan 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This outlook tends to ignore the stats about relationships, marriage and out of wedlock childbirths because the people with these ideas want to believe that women as a whole are looking to become single moms and get some random guy to foot the bill.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

decides to settle down with a beta male seems to cause a lot of moral outrage among red pillers so what gives?

No man or woman should ever want to be settled with. No man wants to be betabux, no woman wants to be beckybux. Simple as that.

[–]TermAggravating8043 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They want to believe it because it backs up their revenge fantasy thing that all young women are out fucking the same 2 guys but when they hit 30 with 4 kids to different dads they’ll need a strong protector man (the red pill man) and be begging for him to take her because whist she was busy fucking he was working and made money and now he’s in his prime (mid 30’s) gets to turn round and call her a hoe and while beautiful teenagers are throwing themselves at him

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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