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Do woman also have a blackpill?

October 7, 2022
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Example: waist to hip ratio being genetic, facial structure and even agepill.
I'm sure it's not as extreme for woman, but the current beauty standard for woman, that men find most attractive, is almost completely genetic.

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Title Do woman also have a blackpill?
Author MasonSub4
Upvotes 10
Comments 66
Date October 7, 2022 8:16 PM UTC (2 months ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 17 points18 points  (48 children) | Copy Link

A few women realize that the genes they've got are undesireable to pass on to their sons, and therefore opt out of having children altogehter. Whats the point in having a son who'll have to be incel and suffer, and you know about the sad lives that genetically inferior men lead.

The blackpill is unescapeable. Respect to women who realize this.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 10 points11 points  (30 children) | Copy Link

All the time on r/PurplePillDebate you see people making the argument that incels are culled from the gene pool, and rightfully so because of thier bad genetic qualities.

But rarely do you ever see the same argument applied to women. They do realize an incel is comprised of 50% of his mother's genes, right?

If a 6'2 Chad marries a 5'0 4/10 woman, they as potential parents need to accept the fact that there is a very real chance thier son could turn out as a 5'1 ugly incel. And they need to determine whether or not that is a risk they are willing to take.

So I legitimately 100% respect women who acknowledge this fact, and choose not to have kids.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So I legitimately 100% respect women who acknowledge this fact, and choose not to have kids.

I wish my parents did same

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (23 children) | Copy Link

that's because it's just a cover story for slam dunking on men to feel good about themselves. if i could go back in time and sterilize one of my parents before they could reproduce it would have been my mother

[–]kokorwqac -1 points0 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

I'm honestly ugly because of my father, the idea that only top quality men bred is broscience

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

your dad isn't a zoomer

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I got my bad genes from mom. Dad mogs me and has always looked good especially when young.

I think it has to do with location. Scandinavia has been sexually liberal for a very long time. Wherever you are from might not have been so successfully hypergamous.

Its not bro science per sé, its just false when you factor in that in parts of the world where women are controlled and coerced into monogamy with males that arent genetically superior.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy Link

Okaaay.

So, cognisant of the fact that you never really tell the truth or a consistent tale on this sub, and are desperate to troll people: Why did your mum fuck your dad?

[–]platinirismsBlackPill -3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men can created 700 babies a year, women can only create 1 maybe 2 babies every 9 months.

Because of this, women are picky with who will make their baby. Only best of men can produce a baby with her, the other men aren’t good enough to pass on their genes.

The opposite is not true, a few men can impregnable all women. There’s plenty of time and energy to do that. Meaning a low tier man basically has no chance to take part, thus die with their genes.

The risk of a top tier man impregnating a low tier man is pretty low, either he can feed the baby and it thrives, or it dies, the only thing lost is the lower tier woman’s time, energy, and labour. There’s still 600 other babies alive that take priority.

[–]Liberated_Asexual 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The risk is that you still bring genetically defective people in the world in an environment where they will suffer.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm honestly ugly because of my father, the idea that only top quality men bred is broscience

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Harsh

[–]NationalistGoy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some men are incels because they are bad at socializing, or have very low self steem so they isolate, so they never improve their social skills. Not necessarily because they are ugly.

[–]Holiday-Reach-8948 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Are people really THIS shallow these days???

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

You thinking people are shallow is just humanity not living up to your naive and bluepilled expectations. We've always been shallow at heart, it just wasnt always this blantantly obvious.

[–]Holiday-Reach-8948 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You just said “…it just used to not be this blatantly obvious” which answered my question (are people really this shallow these days). 🤷‍♀️

Guess I’m soooo naïve… oh, darn.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Shallow is pejorative. This is just how we are. Using words like shallow indicates that you have higher expectations on humanity than it will ever live up to. Which I find naive. I don't say that to offend you, I just genuinely find it naive and idealistic.

[–]Holiday-Reach-8948 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Also, I’m just curious about something… when you say they opt out of having children all together due to the possibility of passing on undesirable traits- those traits you speak of, are you talking about looks alone/beauty standards??

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sometimes people refuse to have kids due to hereditary diseases, as Im sure you are aware. With the crowd I've spoken to though, its about inferior genetics when it comes to sexual selection (aka beauty, or lack thereof.)

I see both cases as a mercy.

[–]debatelord_1 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Personally, my mom is definitely not happy about my lack of sexual success and I sometimes wonder if she also blames herself

Mothers don't want unattractive sons that's for sure

[–]Holiday-Reach-8948 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, I’m sorry to hear that. While I certainly understand (I’m not naïve to it as someone else suggested) it’s just not the most important thing in life IMO - I suppose it is to someone if reproducing is their #1 priority in life.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most human beings at heart, are very superficial creatures.

Of course mate determinism is based primarily on factors like looks. It is in our nature.

[–]Pissrael_2 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think women care so much about their male children when they grow up, though.

It makes sense as in the past men would die in wars or be killed, so women found emotional ways to get over men dying fast, just as they ended up fucking enemy soldiers after they killed her husband hours before.

[–]herefortheparty01PurplePill 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Incel is a mind set. My kids will not be the good looking one in a group. Just like I wasn’t and will Never be. But even I had a kid. Even I can approach women. Incel isn’t always bad.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ignoring the unfounded idea about mindset, you knew that your kids would experience the same dissapointment you've had but still insisted on giving them your genetic code. Interesting.

Every girl and boy wishes to be beautiful. To attract partners without effort. Your proverbial son will want to be loved by a girl simply for what he is.

You've deprived them of this. For what reason I wonder? Is it pride & ego? Some sort of misplaced duty towards your bloodline? By giving them better genetics they would've gotten to be taller and better looking. I cannot fathom why you'd do this.

[–]herefortheparty01PurplePill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was loved. I am loved. He will be too.

[–]BlackPillPusher 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No, the whole concept of red/blue/black pill used to have an analogy behind them that reflects reality, at this point it's just pick your own ideology, give it a color and call it whatever colored "pill" you like without any rhyme or reason.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

agreed. again.

[–]BlackPillPusher 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm happy to be amongst intellectual like minded individuals, thank you

[–]Holiday-Reach-8948 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

100%!!!

[–]SmurfESmurferson 4 points5 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Women have historically been more black pilled than men. Men have always been able to fall back on career/provider/family/class/caste

An ugly, fat girl from a good family and higher class would always end up a spinster. Because men weight looks above all else

Today? Men are catching up to women in this regard. But looks aren’t the end all/be all for men. If they were, “trophy husband” would be as common as “trophy wife”

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

But looks aren’t the end all/be all for men.

Exactly.Also man's looks is more controllable especially they have thicker skin.

[–]SmurfESmurferson 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

And produce 15% more sebum, on average. So that thicker skin is more supple

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes,I don't understand why men aren't called beauty creatures as women beauty only lasts for 3 years

[–]ohheyhi99No Pill 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

“Also man's looks is more controllable especially they have thicker skin.”

I’m not so sure about this. Men have skin and muscularity on their side, but the main things that make a man physically attractive are facial structure, height, not balding, shoulder to waist ratio, and penis size. Heavy makeup isn’t acceptable for normal men either.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Mewing,skincare and beard helps.Going to gym will definitely improve looks and overall presentation

My brother's jawline changed after mewing and do basic skincare like cleanse, moisture,spf.

Are they?

Yes.It blows my mind when men doubt it.Men have no idea how with good care they can age well.

[–]ohheyhi99No Pill 3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Mewing isn’t confirmed to be successful. Skincare helps, but not as much as the genetic features. Beards are good for those of us with the genetics to grow beards.

[–]SkookumTree 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. She might’ve been able to have a relationship, though. And she could lose weight a hell of a lot easier than a 5’4” man can grow taller.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Depends if you're talking about sex or relationships, but I think: No, not really.

Men have to find a woman happy to risk having a child with them. Women are picky.

Women have to find a man who wants something a step up from masturbation. Men are not picky about sex.

Now, with modern social care etc, most western women are able to get pregnant and have the state pay for it - so no need for the man thereafter (which incidentally is a blackpill point).

Thus, no, there is no direct equivalent of the male blackpill (in current meaning, as applied to sex). I do think there is an equivalent of the incel though, and it uses words that have been in circulation since Shakespeare's time: Shrew, Spinster, Old Maid etc.

The modern term is; Crazy Cat Lady.

In other words, the female equivalent of male INvoluntarily CELibate is a woman who is INvoluntarily SINGle. The INSING. Cat Lady sounds better though.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I have boobs and I hate that.My face is very masculine,big nose ,lots of stretch marks.I am jealous of women with feminine features. I don't think women' beauty is controllable.Men beauty is more controllable.

Women skin is really worse.If you are women with really good genes and fast metabolism,you are lucky.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't all women have boobs?

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I forgot to write saggy boob lol

I just want my boobs to be flat as kitchen table

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

i dont have big boobs but flat would ve been probably better considering my ace is too masc for my taste

i wanted the cutesy naotenouus face type :(

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Flat is always better.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Stretch marks? From childbirth?

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No.From puberty and it is still there

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it's called pinkpill and it's basically all men are abusers so i want chad to <insert banned verb here> me

[–]SilentFroggy 1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Yes but isn’t as harsh as men.

[–]MasonSub4BlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure it's not as extreme for woman

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

But at least you can cover it by having money.

[–]SilentFroggy 4 points5 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Money is betabuxxing. It’s not the same thing and it’s kinda disrespectful to men because they can only attract with their money.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

men because they can only attract with their money.

Well that's how things work.

[–]SilentFroggy 4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Only works if the men doesn’t mind being a beta. Chads still get hookups/dates without providing.

[–]FastBananaViral -1 points0 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

No, even obese females have men fawning over them

[–]SilentFroggy 2 points3 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

But you don’t want her

[–]FastBananaViral -1 points0 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

There are plenty who do want obese females. There is actually variety in males

[–]SilentFroggy 4 points5 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

But you don’t.

[–]FastBananaViral -1 points0 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

If an obese female lost weight

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It all depends what you consider to be fat.

For example, I think Ashley Graham is entirely acceptable, while Kate Moss is / was repulsive.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I have a masculine face and am hairy, wanted that soft cutesy face and money for epilation

[–]Liberated_Asexual 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Ahh, the white, Caucasian, Asian, Middle Eastern woman...

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Asian was a typo i deleted

Middle eastern and caucasian is the same

[–]Liberated_Asexual 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ahahahahahaha

[–]kokorwqac 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't complain about being ugly or bullied because some coomer gets horny at me?

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rapeman hentai

[–]classicliberal1 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do woman also have a blackpill?

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