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Even passing femme transwomen are Chad only in 2022. Hypergamy is driven by male thirst, not by the female brain

August 6, 2022

I prefer attractive ciswomen but I think some passing femme transwomen/CDs are hot and personally I'd rather get with an attractive transwoman/CD than an ugly and/or obese ciswoman. I had the Monkeypox vaccine a week and a half ago because I had been talking with a number of transwomen/CDs and figured it was only a matter of time until I hooked up with one. But even they are Chad only in 2022. Or at least its the passing femme ones.

It's only the ugly non-passing transwomen/CDs who are DTF. I've had lots of offers from the ugly masc ones. They chase me. lmfao. But notice how they only ever call men who approach femme passing transwomen "chasers". They never call the ugly transwomen who chase men "chasers."

And I am not an incel. Nor am I a bad looking guy. I've been with 9 ciswomen sexually (and that doesn't include the 14 hookers I've been with) but hooking up and dating is a numbers game. I had to approach a lot of women online in order to get with those 9 women. Though some of those 9 women approached me first online.

I have a nice face. I'm 15.4% body fat, 42.1% muscle mass, 59.9% water weight with a 23.1 BMI, 82.8cm (32.6") waist. I lift and work on my core muscles and glutes 3-4x a week, I do cardio 3-4x a week. I can fit comfortably into size 30 skinny fuckboy jeans. But it's not good enough for these women. Even the good looking transwomen.

Granted I'm a manlet (5'6") but still. I'm taller than the average woman (5'4") and even the short passing transwomen (5'5", 5'6") around my height or a little shorter are rejecting me. The 5'5" transwoman who didn't reply to me mentioned on her profile that she wants a tall man. And the 5'6" one says that she loves tall white boys.

So even transwomen/CDs want tall men even though they don't have female brains. So don't give me this psychoevolutionary bullshit because it doesn't apply to transwomen/CDs. They are men on estrogen or in a dress with makeup. The preference for tall men, especially tall white men, is cultural.

Yet we are gaslit into believing that estrogenic skinny fat and fat redditors who are 5'9", live a sedentary lifestyle and are 20%, 25%, even 30% body fat are not incel and able to get gfs without being human ATMs in 2022. We are gaslit into believing that it's just our attitude and not looks or height.

Meanwhile when I was on Grindr looking for transwomen specifically, I got hit on a ton by gay/bi men and asked for sex constantly by them. While the passing femme transwomen either ignored my messages or messaged and flirted with me for awhile and eventually ghosted me. The furthest I've gone with a transwoman was when she asked me to show her a shirtless pic. And she said that I was hot. But she ghosted me the next day and then never replied to me again when I tried following up a week later. She was tall so that might have had something to do with it. And there was this 5'7" CD who flirted with me and wanted to see my dick. So I sent her a dick pic and she sent me sexy pics of her back. But then she stopped replying to me after awhile.

You know why it's much easier to get laid with gay/bi men than transwomen? Because its a level playing field. You are part of the same pool of gay/bi men.

Whereas the number of men who are interested in having sex with passing femme transwomen is larger than the pool of passing femme transwomen. So the passing femme transwomen are almost as if not as picky as ciswomen.

The exception to the rule is if you are an ugly top then it's going to be hard for you to attract bottoms. Whereas if you are an ugly bottom bi/gay man, it's impossible to be incel unless you are a standardscel or are unwilling to improve your looks.

I don't give a shit if anyone wants to call me a faggot or whatever. Don't yuck my yum. I don't care about labels. But for people who say that men go trans because they can't get ciswomen, THINK AGAIN! Because passing femme transwomen are almost as picky if not just as picky as ciswomen.

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Title Even passing femme transwomen are Chad only in 2022. Hypergamy is driven by male thirst, not by the female brain
Author alienamongnormies
Upvotes 3
Comments 25
Date August 6, 2022 4:19 PM UTC (4 months ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/AllPillDebate/even-passing-femme-transwomen-are-chad-only-in.1139703
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[–]back_in_blyat 8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Supply and demand. If you have endless options you can be pickier. Hypergamy is real and focused on only because the male equivalent is so absurdly hard to attain, but Leonardo DiCaprio et al work the same way just rotating out the next 18-21 year old supermodel.

Bottoms are in much higher demand than tops (from my admittedly smaller understanding from my handful of close gay friends and could be wrong), but it makes sense and I imagine the same applies with gay men.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

From my experience having spent time on heterosexual dating apps and Grindr, this is what the "demand hierarchy" is like in terms of the standard S,A,B,C,D,F-tier Japanese rating rating. With S-tier being the top of the foodchain and F being the bottom of the food chain.

S. heterosexual/bisexual women

A. passing femme transwomen/CDs

B. ugly masc transwomen/CDs

C. gay/bi bottoms

D. gay/bi tops

F. heterosexual men

On Grindr I advertised as a 5'6" top (D-tier) as I was looking specifically for transwomen and I still got shit loads of demand from gay/bi bottoms (C-tier) even though that isn't what I was looking for as well as ugly masc transwomen/CDs (B-tier). Because I'm good looking enough for the C-tier and even B-tier people to want me.

But I'm not good looking enough to attract a lot of interest from attractive ciswomen (S-tier) or even passing femme transwomen (A-tier).

I did have a ciswoman a couple months ago message me with "hello handsome" on POF but she was unattractive and fat. And I've had much better so I'm not going to bother settling for her. I'm going to leave her to the guys out there who are actually starving. The problem with our society is that more men don't think like me. I'm sure even some Chads would probably fuck the woman who said "hello handsome" to me. That is probably why she felt emboldened enough to open on me with such a line. As if she felt like I would have been a sure thing for her. Since I'm sure she has probably slept with men who are better looking than me in the past.

If men continue to lower their standards, hypergamy is only going to get worse and worse. I don't fault literal incels for lowering their standards. But if you are a Chad or even a guy like me who has some experience under his belt, why would you stoop to the level of porking ugly, obese women?

I haven't got laid in over 22 months. But from my experience, bad sex is worse than masturbation. So during the pandemic I figured that I'd rather jerk off than roll the dice with covid on an ugly, fat whale. And after the pandemic subsided, I still kept my standards in place because it's not like sex with ugly, fat women was ever enjoyable for me anyways. I only had sex with ugly and fat women in the past for validation anyways. The sexual frustration that I feel is mental, not physical. I jerked off yesterday. What I miss is the oxytocin and dopamine rush of making love and cuddling my hot ex-girlfriend from 6 years ago. I don't expect to get with a girl who is as attractive as my ex. But I need to at least be with a woman who turns me on. Otherwise, what is the point? I've already got my validation from ugly and fat women before.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Agree with you.

But what do you think of a man that sleeps with the occasional chubby girl out of convenience?

Not obese, but chubby and not ugly looking?

Like when I’m super horny some nights I do give in to some of these chubby girls from time to time.

Never more than one time thing tho.

I think it kinda justifies it, especially when she puts in all the effort.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My personal rule is, if I can get it up for her, PLAY BALL! However my cock is likely pickier than most men. I went to bed with this fat 5'1" Filipina and I was turned on when her clothes were on. I was roaming my hands on her legs. Grabbing her ass. But then when she undressed and I saw her gut and her gut was larger than her bust, I couldn't get it up. Same with this 5'4" white woman. I was turned on grabbing her ass. But then when her clothes came off, I saw all her saggy skin and couldn't get hard. She was giving me head telling me that I could cum in her mouth. But I was never able to get hard, let alone bust.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha I feel you dude.

They do look more flattering in their photos.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Sorry dude. Height attraction in Bio females is absolutely genetic. In others it is cultural.

Bear this in mind: there is more to “passing” than looks.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I dated a woman who was 5'4" (2 inches shorter than me) for nearly 2 years. While a 5'1" woman on POF demanded 6' minimum. It's not completely hard-wired. There is individual variance to some degree. The woman who was 5'4" told me that her only requirement is that the man is taller than her.

I hooked up with a woman who was 5'7" once. If anything casual sex is probably easier to get with tall woman than a LTR. Because the 5'7" woman might actually be embarrassed to introduce me to her friends as her boyfriend. Because of the social stigma of dating a shorter man. But she sure didn't seem to mind my height when she went to my bedroom.

Height does matter to a degree. But I think manlets (and I say this as a manlet myself) like to use height as a crutch as an excuse to not actually put in any effort with dating. It's easier for a guy to just sit on his ass eating cheese puffs playing Playstation/Xbox, not going to the gym, not doing cardio, not buying nice clothes, not approaching women online/IRL and throw up his hands and say "it's all because of my height, so why bother trying?" than to put in work. I'm living proof that you can get laid at 5'6" so as long as you have FACE. You just might have to try harder than if you were 5'9" (average male height).

Do you know how tempting it is for me to just give up and go back to my LDAR lifestyle where I was 168.2 lbs at 5'6" and 29% body fat (obese)? It's very tempting. So I get it man. But I know that living that life didn't bring me any real happiness. It just made me comfortably numb. I would rather keep plugging away working hard at the gym 3-4x a week, running 3-4x a week, swiping and messaging girls and upgrading my wardrobe than go back to my old LDAR lifestyle. Because I know what the LDAR lifestyle is like and I wasn't happy living that lifestyle. I would rather shoot my shot at happiness than settle for LDAR misery. I can always eat like shit later when I'm old.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

This is all about the normal distribution curve, not statistical anomalies.

I’m 5’10” and had a 6’ girlfriend for a while. That doesn’t change the fact that I am filtered out of 75% of female search parameters on dating apps.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The average male height is 5'9" in the United States. The fact that 75% of women who have a height filter on dating apps filter you out at 5'10" is egregious when the average American woman is 5'3.5"! lol. 6' Chads have lots of options. Women are dumb if they think a 6' Chad is going to commit to just anybody. A lot of women don't have the intelligence to understand that getting dicked down by Chad is not the same thing as getting commitment from Chad. My hot ex had the brains to understand that. Which is probably why we dated for 8.5 months. She had sense to understand that the person with more options held the balance of power in a relationship and she preferred to hold the balance of power.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Everything you say is entirely correct.

But it doesn’t change the way women are. It is the way it is.

If you’re not 6’ tall then you shouldn’t be bothering with dating apps. You’re putting in whatever effort you are putting in, in order to be filtered out immediately.

Far better to go old school. But that takes a lot of guts and effort.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree with this too.

I’m not super tall nor short pretty avg 5’9-5’10.

Most girls just want someone taller than them.

But there are def girls that have hard requirements. But even then sometimes they make exceptions.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Or you know, you can simply not fuck trans women and fat chicks. I mean that is an option.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like some trans women. Don't yuck my yum. lol. You do you. More for me if you don't want them.

I've tried porking obese women and it's not for me. Overweight, I can see myself dating if she had a nice face.

[–]MasonSub4BlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We should covertly come up with this lie to tell woman that men pair-bond with their first time, that way we can all get a shot, because then they will be less likely to sleep with guys who fucked around

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hypergamy is driven by both, actually.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link


[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love Ben Chang in Community. He's great.

In all seriousness, I think I might be bi (though I don't really care for labels) but definitely not gay. I kissed a passing femme crossdresser today and I liked it. We held hands, cuddled and fooled around a bit sexually, I got hard and liked that too. But I can't see myself giving up pussy fulltime. I might like chocolate and vanilla. But I prefer chocolate. If you know what I mean. I really miss my hot ex-gf's pussy in particular. I also like how forward transwomen/crossdressers can be compared to ciswomen generally. Though my hot ex was forward af. As much as I wish I could give up pussy and be a full-time homosexual, I really do miss my ex's pussy. NGL. Pussy is over-rated and over-bought in 2022. But pussy is great when it's attached to a woman I'm in love with.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wrong af

[–]Liberated_Asexual 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao is this a troll post?

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Just because I'm not woke doesn't mean I can't be into biological males. I know a gay dude who is black pilled even. I really don't care. I have a date today with a passing femme CD. And if it feels right to kiss her and I like it, then I like it and may go further and see if I like that too. I know on looksmax forums, homosexual content is banned. I disagree with that kind of policy for this sub. Gaymaxxing and transmaxxing is a potential solution for incels. There is an incel to trans pipeline in fact. However I struck out with all the passing transwomen/CDs before her. Or maybe the ones I talked to before weren't serious. So they are often almost as picky as ciswomen if not just as and often Chad only contrary to what people tend to believe.

I prefer vagina. Hands down. I had a hot ex before who is a ciswoman. But pussy is at a premium in 2022. My ex is a BPD psycho but men keep eating out of her hand (even me. I'm weak just like any other woman in the presence of a hot girl. Even though I know I fuck her better than her current bf. Otherwise she wouldn't have contacted me in May) because she's hot and has a vagina in 2022. Ciswomen think they are hot shit. Even most passable transwomen/CDs have inflated egos now. There's no harm in me just trying it. If I don't get hard, I don't get hard. We could chill as friends. If I get hard, I get hard.

[–]Liberated_Asexual 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you are being serious and you truly think you have no better options, have you considered geo-maxing?

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I absolutely have thought about SEAmaxxing yes. Living in the Philippines/Thailand during Nov to Apr on a 6 month tourist visa during the Canadian winter months. And going back to Canada for the spring, summer and fall May to Oct. I can continue to get Ontario health care if I live here for at least 180 days in the year. And pay taxes to the CRA. And keep my Canadian bank accounts and trading account to earn some income, including passive income. And wire money to a Filipino bank account to pay for rent and expenses. Or convert to crypto to Filipino pesos.

I had been talking to a sexy 4'11" Filipina on WhatsApp. I'm 7 inches taller than her. And there are many other girls like her I can get with there.

The CD I have a date with is Filipino. So I'm killing two birds with one stone. I'm saving a short Asian man from inceldom and I'm going to get action too.

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[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahh, ok.

Whilst I don't disagree with your post -the vast majority of incels are straight men and this just isn't an option for them.

Glad it works for you though :)

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