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From male perspective, women are not the more empathic gender.

November 5, 2022
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Woman gets pumped and dumped, that makes her feel like shit.

When her female friend hears her story, she can see things from her perspective. She feels bad about it herself, she emaphizes, the feeling is so intense she might even cry because of it.

When I hear her story... If I was sexually used by a whole female soccer team, I would feel so great about it that I would spend the rest of my days high-fiving other guys. The only bad thing about the whole story is that at one point they stoped using me for sex.

Still, when I put myself into her shoes, I see her situation as a woman. And I do feel bad about it, I empathize.

Not enough to cry with her because... I'm a guy, my serotonin levels are higher, my emotions are numbed down. I don't cry for my problems either.

So women high five each other thinking they are more empathic gender. And men are emotionaly stumped pieces of wood.

OKay, lets take a look at things from male perspective.

If I find out my partner sees me as a good provider, but a sub-par lover. I feel like shit.

I share my story with a man, he can see the things from my perspective. He empathizes. I don't cry, he doesn't cry, I get a pat on my back, we drink a cold one.

If I share my story with a woman. She put's herself in HER shoes. Then she tries to womansplain to me why I shouldn't feel bad because reasons and logic.

Just like a sociopath would.

Who cares if her empathic feelings are stronger if she can't even empathize with my male specific problems?

When men don't want to emotionaly open up, well we open up with our buddies just fine. We are hesitant with opening up to women, because... you can't empathize with our male specific issues. We just give up. When men don't want to hear your emotional problems, that's because this whole emotional exchange often feels like a one way street.

Just look at this sub. Guys never argue that women shouldn't feel bad about a bunch of female specific issues, even though we would feel great to have those. We can empathize.

Women are arguing about guys "feels bad" stuff all the time

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Title From male perspective, women are not the more empathic gender.
Author smallstarseeker
Upvotes 12
Comments 19
Date November 5, 2022 4:30 PM UTC (1 month ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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[–]FastBananaViral 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They are definitely less empathetic in my experience. If a female talks about their problems to a man, men don’t say “men don’t owe you anything” or “you’re not entitled to anything”.

[–]FightMeCthullu 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think this isn’t an issue of ‘which is more empathetic’ so much as an issue of perspective.

From a male perspective, many men do not feel seen and heard by women when discussing their struggles.

From a female perspective, many women do not feel seen or heard by men when discussing their struggles.

And both sides have their own experiences/trauma/issues that men we are going to look at the opposite side more negatively. Both sides are guilty of minimising the issues, or making fun of the issues, or straight up not caring.

To use a real life example: I am a woman who was assaulted as a teenager, by a man who wanted sex. So when I see the issue of male sexlessness crop up, I already have a bias against that issue. I can try and empathise, or try and move past it, but ultimately because of my experiences I do not care about that issue so much because one man’s ‘sexlessness’ negatively impacted my life so greatly. Or to put it more simply, I guess, the issue of male sexlessness didn’t effect me and arguably shouldn’t have….and yet it was made my problem by a man who was experiencing it.

This is NOT me saying all men who aren’t getting sex are rapists/want to rape/have the potential to rape. This is just me saying that because of my experiences I see the issue as less important because I’ve experienced negative affects from it.

I imagine the reverse is true - many men probably do not have as much empathy for issues women face because those issues and how a person reacts to them can be made the problem of someone it doesn’t affect. I won’t speculate on specific issues because I don’t have the personal experience to speak on it, but if anyone wants to reply with something they think fits the bill, feel free!

Making one gender the villain isn’t going to fix anything or make anyone happier. It just creates rage filled echo chambers. The real villain is the way the world has set up systems that oppress us all and lead to these problems. I imagine, if my assaulters mental health and struggles had been taken seriously, he might have gotten the treatment needed to deal with his frustrations constructively instead of hurting me. Or at least I like to think that. But male mental health and well-being is by and large not taken as seriously as it should be.

Its easy to just blame a whole gender for your own struggles. And in some cases, it’s understandable. But I don’t think it fixes anything or helps. It can create conversations where people can learn and try and understand each other, but that’s less likely to happen if the conversation starts with rage and insults.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i agree i kinda put it this way: rich man is more worried about getting his shit stolen, getting mugged by poor man and being gouged out of his income by the taxman, things that he sees as already belonging to himself. poor man is more worried about getting mugged by gangsters and not getting the shit he needs, things he sees as being hoarded by others. neither of em will want to understand the other all that much unless they make an effort.

but honestly, male sexlessness and sexual harrassment ain't mutually exclusive things unlesss you count movements like #metoo where blinking at a woman and hitting on her are sexual harrassment because she didn't like you: im pretty sure my mom felt something while fondling me and i had a creepy ass teacher once that was making moves on me while i was alone with her in homeroom in college. 'course, when it comes to MSM discourse, one side is dogmatically upheld as a sacred cow and one side is always ridiculed.

[–]sparklyyblueberryy 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When my sister was hurt by a man my dad put himself in the man’s shoes.

You make this gendered, but it isn’t.

I have my own principles such as I can not be in a situation where I feel like I’m using a man for money or their goodwill towards me. Men have usually been very kind to me. I’ve developed a cold demeneur because it has pained me so much when I have simply been friendly, let alone kind or listened or empathetic towards a man, and they have very fastly fallen in love with me. I felt like I led them on and I had a hard time dealing with the pain from them being heart broken. So I don’t want to hurt anyone. I felt so much empathy for incels at first (but also realised it was pity).

I think we have empathy but sometimes don’t show it because it makes us vulnerable.

[–]debatelord_1 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Idk from my experience women are still much more empathic and have higher emotional intelligence.

They would definitely understand how not being desired sexually would hurt a relationship. Idk what to say about your gangbang fantasies

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

They have higher social intelligence. Perhaps you meant higher emotional instability.

[–]debatelord_1 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Emotional intelligence (EI) is the ability to perceive, interpret, demonstrate, control, evaluate, and use emotions to communicate with and relate to others effectively and constructively

[–]caption291 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That definition doesn't seem to make sense. To communicate effectively requires that you use emotions as little as possible.

But I guess it's so ridiculous that a psychologist could have came up with it lol.

[–]zoloftabuser 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i dont think every man wants to be sexually used by a female soccer team but seems like the gist of the post is accurate, female empathy seems to whiz right past the perspectives of men

[–]rurunoa 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

women would most definitely be able to empathise there are plenty of women who are seen as subpar partners and suffering from sexlessness in their own marriages

[–]Taipanshimshon 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women have frienemies.

Men do not.

It's that simple.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Was sceptical at first but the more I read, the more it seemed experientially true. Well, from a male perspective.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes,they are not.We are not strong,we are just useless crybaby since we are not logical beings.

In my experience, woman who is actually empathetic is most cunning and judgemental person I ever know and deep inside they want to see women getting sad especially those who are successful.I know this is crazy opinion.

If woman says she is empath,I will run away from her.I kind of see them as evil eye

About man,I don't know.I never seen man getting empathetic to other man in real life.Maybe they don't show it.I find it hard to believe that man can be empathetic as it is not masculine trait.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

In my experience, woman who is actually empathetic is most cunning and judgemental person I ever know and deep inside they want to see women getting sad especially those who are successful.I know this is crazy opinion.

what experience did you have that made you think this

If woman says she is empath,I will run away from her.I kind of see them as evil eye

yep i agree because those people are extremely self centered

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

what experience did you have that made you think this

This was long time ago.I talked to woman who claimed to be empath,I shared some of my problems,She understood and explained why I had problems.She got point which I agreed,next day she kept saying something that mocks me .She shared it to others.Pretending to ask me if I am okay, when I say yes,she get offended.

There was woman dealing with breakup with guy she was crazy about.She explained her behaviour and told her that she understand her feelings and she needs to heal.When woman actually healed and got married,I am not lying she was jealous.I am sure she wanted her to be miserable so that she can keep giving lectures.

Fucking bitch!

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

that sounds like she had empathy to understand what others are feeling but no compassion to want to genuinely help them

honestly it sounds like you are with fucking savagely competitive women at work

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

honestly it sounds like you are with fucking savagely competitive women at work

Women at work will always be competitive to other women.

[–]No_Mathematician8341 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

hell no. thought about it while giving the homeless man a dollar. Women walked by looking out the corner of there eye to see if i will look. when i look they hurry up and turn away like they never saw me. lol way to go ladies. really helping society with your loving compassion lol

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