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Here's what the young woman partially responsible for the collapse of FTX thinks is 'cute' about guys

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November 14, 2022
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Title Here's what the young woman partially responsible for the collapse of FTX thinks is 'cute' about guys
Author INTP-1
Upvotes 8
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Date November 14, 2022 12:22 AM UTC (2 months ago)
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[–]islandmiler 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

controlling most major world governments

Life fuel for deep staters, globalists, and ((people who rule over you))

[–]kokorwqac 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Ftx?

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

a large cryptocurrency exchange that collapsed after a hack and is now under fed investigation for hundreds of millions of usd

[–]TragicSystem 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Isn't it billions?

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

actually yes

[–]JumboJetz 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

If this is Caroline Ellison she is so ugly and awkward. The ultimate black pill is this disgusting, nerdy awkward white girl had a billionaire boyfriend when her male equivalent would be the literal bottom rung of society.

[–]kokorwqac 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

She's a stanford graduate and rich, that gives her more status than anyone writing on this thread.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Woman moment: projecting what they find worthwhile in men to be worthwhile in women, and expecting men to find it attractive.

Fortunately for mankind, that’s not how it works.

[–]kokorwqac 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

and? she's not allowed to have standards because she's ugly, while incels who haven't done anything worthwhile in their lives can write whatever about women?

her male counterpart wouldn't be the bottom rung of the society due to her success and money, that part you forgot.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

She can have all the standards she wants, but you implying her wealth/prestige of education being of worth to men is a projection of what women find attractive in men.

while incels who haven't done anything worthwhile in their lives can write whatever about women?

I’m not sure where this came from, so I’ll just leave it alone.

[–]kokorwqac 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

the person i originally replied to before you, said that this was the ultimate blackpill because her male counterpart would be the ''bottom rung of the society'' which is originally the reason why i replied in the first place.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, you edited your comment just now.

Her male counterpart would still be physically undesirable. No amount of money can change that. But, in an instance where neither are rich/privileged, the woman would still be more valuable, literally inherently. Would the man? No. He would have to create his value.

[–]kokorwqac 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

the comment was there from the start, read the person i replied to.

ugly girls aren't valuable from my experience, they can get ''sex' sure, but on status they are lower and don't get respect for their achievements, which is honestly worse than not getting sex.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That I agree with. Not every man can just become valuable. If you lack the intelligence, you are very limited in your options. There is no equality.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

SMDH anyone who says looks matters when men judge women, look at her and Lena Dunham. Lena Dunham is married and this fraud is dating billionaires. Case closed.

[–]INTP-1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty fucking amazing, I agree. It shows you what kind of cuck Bankman-Fried is to be involved with this woman, both professionally and romantically.

[–]EnteFetz 2 points3 points  (68 children) | Copy Link

If a woman like her can have standards like that, then it is truly over for average men.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

if its over for you it never even began for me

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (66 children) | Copy Link

Normie men have standards too

[–]EnteFetz 1 point2 points  (65 children) | Copy Link

No. Where do you get that misconception? Average men fuck whatever they can get their hands on, which are a few scraps and leftovers that Chad dropped.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (64 children) | Copy Link

You're in incel forums most men ignore non NT women and focus on tinder whores

[–]EnteFetz 2 points3 points  (63 children) | Copy Link

Weird. That means these men are not actually incels. If they choose to ignore certain types of women, then they are voluntary celebate. If I would have standards I would be a "volcel" but I don't have standards and I enjoy having sex every week even if the women I end up with are not that nice to look at.

[–]SilentFroggy 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Many men are volcels. They just don’t admit it.

[–]EnteFetz 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Being volcel is OK.

But calling yourself incel when you have options is just retarded and wrong.

[–]SilentFroggy 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

No one is calling themselves incels. But this doesn’t mean that the average men are finding ugly women attractive.

[–]EnteFetz 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

My whole point is that there sre some reatards who call themselves "truecels" because they are kissless virgins in their late 20ies but at the same time they say that there are women who are interested in them, but these guys have too high standards and think these women are beneath them.

That just makes no sense.

You can only call yourself incel only if you really don't have any options. If there is any woman who wants to fuck you then you are not an incel.

[–]SilentFroggy 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Probably because most men expected to be with an attractive woman when it comes to dating. Unattractive women never crossed their minds.

Only time I’ve seen guys call themselves truecels when they’re not are because of them trolling.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (53 children) | Copy Link

There was an incel on incel forum that ''maremaxxed' ' because he couldn't get a white girl

Extreme example but standardcels exist and are the majority

[–]EnteFetz 2 points3 points  (35 children) | Copy Link

These guys are simply idiots.

The same as the girls who claim that they can't find a guy, while they have 4000 likes on Tinder.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (32 children) | Copy Link

They are the majority, unnattractive guys can betabuxx or date ugly 2/10 girls but no one wants that

[–]MegaGigaTeraBased 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

or date ugly 2/10 girls but no one wants that

false, ugly men definitely do want this. but even ugly 2/10 girls go for average or above average men

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Cope my mom married an ugly man

[–]EnteFetz 0 points1 point  (27 children) | Copy Link

Well I am going for the 2/10 girls and loving it :)

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

rank smv of things under

dog,5/10 guy and 12 year old boy

[–]SilentFroggy 0 points1 point  (25 children) | Copy Link

Only betas go for 2/10

[–]Anti_Thing 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What's idiotic about having standards?

[–]EnteFetz 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They can have standards if they want.

Nothing wrong with that.

If you are not happy being a virgin, then you need to lower your standards or shut the fuck up.
ncels and *woe me* and wail in self pitty that they are kissless virgins.

If you are not happy being a virgin then you need to lower your standards or shut the fuck up.

Incels cant have standards by definition. If you have standards then you are not an incel.

[–]JumboJetz 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Mare max?

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucked a mare

[–]MegaGigaTeraBased 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

Extreme example but standardcels exist and are the majority

False, standardcels are the extreme minority. The vast majority of the incels would date literally any non-obese, non-deformed woman their age.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy Link

Most incels have autisstic tastes, go to an incel forum and read

[–]MegaGigaTeraBased 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

in actual incel forums (e.g. r/braincels which is now banned), incels would offer to date literally ANY woman, and of course no one took them on that offer.

the only place you will find incels with high standards en masse is on looksmax forums (full of chadlite larpers) and .is (full of mentally ill extremists)

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

.is dudes and looksmaxx dudes dislike any non-white women that doesn't fit ''PSL' ' standards, a lot of them also like 12 year olds for some reason

[–]TsugaC 0 points1 point  (26 children) | Copy Link

Ellison graduated from Stanford and is/was worth $15 million at 28.

But men in this thread feel she isn't pretty enough to be worth consideration. Aren't you the same men who believe that a "high value man" has a solid job and investments? The man who wasn't attractive enough to pull in high school and college?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

The men in this thread can't fathom liking a woman for her personality or intelligence, so they assume all men are just like them.

Funny how Elon Musk doesn't date 10s when I assume he could; he seems pretty into intelligence. I've known plenty of guys with money who don't just go for the hottest women possible; it's almost like compatibility matters or something!

[–]kokorwqac 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men sometimes hype up ugly girls too if they are slutty or easy to lay for them.

Women not validating them is the issue to them

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Are the contents of the image what you consider a good personality to be? That’s appalling if so.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

some delusional people seem to think every woman has a sparkling personality and that they have sex to validate the inner goodness of others like a fucking unicorn that can sense you're pure of heart and that conversely if they rejected you they were somehow able to sense that deep down inside you'd be abusive

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Just world fallacy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was just calling out people calling her ugly and insisting men wouldn't care about success but to off

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

we can't fathom liking this woman for her personality if that answers your first comment

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She's a snob and boringly pandering to men in a weird way which isn't my thing but successful people tend to be attracted to other successful people.

The attacks were mostly on her looks and that's what I was calling out.

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Elon Musk has dated at least two actresses, one of whom Amber Heard is known to be insane. He also dated a singer. Actresses and singers are not known for their intelligence.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The men in this thread can't fathom liking a woman for her personality or intelligence, so they assume all men are just like them.

i can i just dont think this one featured in the OP has a good persoynality

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because personality gets you absolutely nowhere with women until you meet a high looks threshold. You might not get far with great looks and a bad personality but if you are a man with looks at that woman's tier, good luck in life, you're gonna need it.

Of course mediocre looking men get married all the time - problem is those marriages devolve to dead bedrooms within only a few years.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've only known two Casanova men in my life. Neither were hot. Just saying.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a hell of a sample size. And one night stands, too, not LTRs which I was talking about.

[–]INTP-1[S] 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

Men don't care how wealthy a woman is, that's just women projecting onto men what they find attractive in a partner. A woman with wealth just dramatically increases her expectations in a partner (as seen in the OP), which is largely unfounded.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Then why do people with money primarily date and marry other people with money?

[–]INTP-1[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Because people generally stick to their own social class when dating.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

So men do care about a woman's wealth.

I've known wealthy and upper middle class dudes. Most don't want to date a chick working at McDonald's, or even a social worker. If they can get an attractive woman who makes a good living, they'll take that over an attractive woman who doesn't make much

Some guys don't mind bankrolling a woman but most I've met willing to do that are socially awkward and probably wouldn't get a girlfriend otherwise.

[–]INTP-1[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No, they care about your social class, that you are presentable to friends, family, and professional acquaintances, that's about it (and only really applicable for the upper class anyway).

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, they again don't want to fund someone else for life.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Then why do men get so surprised women care about the same things men like (looks or status?)

[–]INTP-1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think you comprehend. It's other people's social demands on men that move them to select for the social status of a female mate. Women are genuinely attracted to social status, money, etc. Men just want a good woman that is attractive that creates an effective support mechanism for him in the home. Men are really simple in both their desires and intentions.

[–]MegaGigaTeraBased 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Men don't care how wealthy a woman is, that's just women projecting onto men what they find attractive in a partner.

Frankly wealth doesn't do all that much for men either. Who do you think gets more attention, Mark Zuckerberg or a 6'4" 9/10 muscular white chad?

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Even mark Zuckerberg has a partner tho, even if its an asian woman that somehow looks more masculine than him for some reason

[–]MegaGigaTeraBased 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

you're missing my point though. mark zuckerberg's partner is literally his looksmatch or even below, he could have gotten her without being a billionaire. if money is actually attractive to women then zuck would be with a 10/10 stacy

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He could've gotten a better woman if he searched for more but people sometimes overrate 3/10 or masculine looking asian women for some reason, i even see some incels do this

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

kek you tell em, what's the point of getting rich to pull girls that find you repulsive when they don't think they have something to mooch off of you?

[–]Best_Illustrator_137 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And yet she dated one of the biggest losers..funny how that works

[–]upalseBogPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"I wanna be one of the boys"

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Wtf is she saying?I am not understanding lol

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

tl;dr: shes saying she thinks its cute when a guy is a ruthless fucking powerful manipulator who controls people and institutions and has psychopath traits.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh...

Why I think she means more than that lol

Sufficient strength to physically overpower you

Like what? Aren't man already strong than women

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

strong enough to beat the shit out of his female partner

yes, thats what the part you quoted means

[–]MegaGigaTeraBased 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

caroline ellison is based

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