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He's right. The tremendous suffering caused that women don't have to go through is like a relative superpower for women and drives their relative success in sterile current year. It's just like an antidepressant

March 10, 2023
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Crosspost "The elephant in the room is the libido gap between men and women" from /r/PurplePillDebate:

The main problem between men and women is the difference in libido.

Men will never be free and women will never be comfortable if men have the same libido we had when we lived in tribes and as savages. However, understandably, men don't want to lose the advantage of testosterone, such as muscle mass and strength, by lowering it. Women usually don't want to have a higher libido either.

What is the point of being horny most of the time if you are not getting any sex? At best it would be a motivation to improve, but more often it is a distraction to other goals and frustration if it cannot be satisfied (which is true for most men, even those in relationships).

I don't think this libido can be fixed anytime soon, but if we get a drug to lower libido while keeping all other benefits of testosterone, men will finally be free. It will be as revolutionary as the pill was for women.

Some people may say that men reducing their libido may imply a collapse in population, but honestly there is already a collapse in population ongoing because birth control. Most people want to cum, not to have children, and lower libido in men will not make much difference except reducing the frustration of countless men for forces and hormones that were not designed to contemporary civilization, and are not suitable for men that will never get sex anyway. Women will also feel more comfortable and in peace if men have a lower libido akin to theirs.

Others may claim men will be lazier now if they have lower libido because less motivation, but I don't think that is the case of women for having lower libido so it does not have to be the case for men either. Also society is not entitled to men's desperation or horniness staying just for productivity and taxpayer cattle.

TLDR: The problem is that men have higher libido than women, an insatiable libido in a world where men are not getting sex as often as they want (at least for most men), and it is not any gender's fault that is the case. It is Just the fact that society is not made for this kind of libido difference.


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Title He's right. The tremendous suffering caused that women don't have to go through is like a relative superpower for women and drives their relative success in sterile current year. It's just like an antidepressant
Author Dreaminofthepasts
Upvotes 4
Comments 27
Date March 10, 2023 6:59 PM UTC (2 weeks ago)
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[–]SoldierExcelsior 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

W9men just don't find most men attractive but when women find an attractive man they have no self control.. hence the single momma thot epidemic.

[–]TaxNegative161 -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lol I love it when losers out themselves unintentionally.

When women are attracted to you you will never, ever outfuck them. Show me a relationship where the man has higher libido than the woman and I'll show you a couple with a dead bedroom.

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah well, not everyone can be a winner, but not suffering is preferable. Just like an anti depressant

[–]DebateRoyal4525 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

You said something I agreed with for once.

[–]TaxNegative161 -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Congratulations on your mostly broken brain.

[–]DebateRoyal4525 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love you too.

[–]TheRedPillRipperRedPill 0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy Link

is like a relative superpower

Ultimately the key is Self Control. If you’ve got the discipline, you dictate the direction of your life. Physique. Career. Relationships. Sex. Marcus Aurelius said it best;

”You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.”

Libido. Diet. Training. Finances. Are all subject to it. Either you master your urges, or they master you.

Godspeed and good luck!

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Self control which women do not have to burden themselves with, thus giving them an advantage which can be equalized by libido reduction

Not saying I'd necessarily do it but I also get it

[–]TheRedPillRipperRedPill 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

women do not have to burden themselves with

Why is Self Control a burden?

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Because less effort better. Easier better. More pleasure better. What else is there?

[–]TheRedPillRipperRedPill 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

What else is there?

Good question. After pleasure? After convenience? After effortlessness? Presumably not much.

Conversely, a lot of meaning can be derived from challenging yourself. From testing yourself. A tool like Self Control fundamental.

I don’t begrudge women their privilege. There’s no way I’d want to be one though. I’d take my libido, and the power to control it. Every time.

Godspeed and good luck!

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Nah I hate self control and denial and anything but hedonism with a passion, and I say this as someone who has worked tirelessly on challenges and accomplishments but thing is been there done that, continuing that, and it's like being a second class species. Women get the real human experience, like being born at a candy store or whatever analogy. It do be like that. I suppose it is great that people can find meaning in endless drudgery lmao but couldn't be me

[–]TheRedPillRipperRedPill 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I’m the other way inclined. After doing something, and especially finishing something, I’m always looking for ‘more.’ Take the candy shop analogy. I wouldn’t be satisfied, with just visiting the shop. My aim would be to own it. Then I’d be looking to open the next shop. It’s a hard mentality to break. Especially when you’re in the habit of it.

Personally that’s ‘the real human experience.’ Learning how things work. Growing. Changing. I love that aspect of being a man. Not saying women can’t experience similar. They however have a finite window. Which dictates some pivotal life choices. I suffer no such limitation.

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

We've all got our clock I reckon, luck with health etc of course are relevant

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[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're talking to somebody who resents that life involves learning, growing and change.

[–]StarTrippinn 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is absolutely untrue. Women love to fuck. Women absolutely have to have self control and self respect in order not to fuck, especially because women typically control whether sex happens or not.

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women don't not fuck when they want to lmao

[–]StarTrippinn 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What?

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women absolutely have to have self control and self respect in order not to fuck,

When they want to fuck, they fuck

[–]Blame_the_Muse 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Men worry about their dicks, women worry about their relationships. I’d say the suffering evens out.

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Too reductive, since otherwise no woman anywhere would ever have sex without a relationship

Dopamine trillionaires be like "I ain't that rich"

[–]Blame_the_Muse 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You kind of have to have the sex to get the relationship. A “boyfriend” is someone you’re fucking.

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women can and do wait for sex until commitment. furthermore many women have sex without any intent of committing.

[–]StarTrippinn 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean? Women don't suffer at all about anything ever.

[–]l00ks-p1lled 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The suffering is mostly caused by lack of validation actually. Sure, Libido can be distracting but you can keep it under control with porn and masturbation. As for validation there isn't an equivalent "mental masturbation"

Edit: actually maybe there is an equivalent, but it's harmful and illegal don't use it

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahah

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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