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How many of you guys are neurodivergent?

August 13, 2022
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From incel forums and places i have noticed majority of them display autistic traits or are social outcasts

They use looks, money, race(even though majority of them are white) as cope and while all of them are valid reasons, i think the neurodivergent/autism factor is the biggest of all

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Title How many of you guys are neurodivergent?
Author kokorwqac
Upvotes 6
Comments 47
Date August 13, 2022 5:35 AM UTC (3 months ago)
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[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 1 point2 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

I was diagnosed with autism as a child. So yeah. And I've struggled with dating and relationships yeah. Though I've been with 9 women (and I fooled around with a trans girl). But man it hasn't been an easy road. I have a nice face though. And these days I'm in relatively good shape. If I didn't have looks and penis size going for me, I'd be in a worse position. Since autism and being 5'6" are failos.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

I got no idea why people think they should simply easily get girls throwing themselves at them anyway, this simply doesn't happen unless you are a rarity

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah it is a grind to get laid. Every time I got laid, it felt so effortless. But those times where I got laid are so few and far in between all the rejections. Because I'm autistic so the type of woman who is into me is overlooking my autism. And they usually have BPD or some other mental disorder to be into someone like me. Vast majority of women approach dating with the mindset that she is the prize and the guy has to win her over and work for it. It doesn't come easy.

With dating I find that 80+% of my effort leads to <20% of the results (getting nowhere with most women. Talking with them is like pulling teeth). And <20% of my effort leads to 80+% of the results (I meet a girl who is into me and then it just all flows nicely). Pareto Principle.

This is why I just invest most of my effort to working out in the gym 3-4x a week, running on alternating days and watching my diet and caloric intake. Because these things lead to actual results -> loss of body fat and increase in muscle mass. Whereas with dating apps I feel like I'm just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks so I don't feel like investing too much time on them.

[–]WOPR-19831 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

You know I just thought of something.

What if women at a social level shit test their men and if the men in their geographical region aka tribe don't measure up instead of helping their men or encouraging more masculinity, they actually do a mass rejection:

Emasculate the men and make them weak so neighbouring masculine men will have an easier time with a takeover.

Could be an innate survival mechanism when the men in specific tribes or regions get too soft.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I'll ask you a counter question. Why do 80% of females on dating apps choose 5% of males? While 50% of males still choose 50% of females?

The way you phrase your question as if women haven't raised their standards to ridiculous levels, that even the typical average man, average height, average income, average looks, can't get a date with an average girl.

And there's always the opposite side. Women 30+ are having a hard time getting dates. There's plenty of older women sounding like incels, crying that no man will date them.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Because dating apps are stupid, and even by that study, women still have messaged men they thought were unnattractive

Meeting irl and even meeting through online social circles or programs are much better methods, thşngs like height aren't detected as much irl, whereas a girl would put height filter in an app despite having wrong idea of what that height is. Most women don't actually realize the diff between 6ft and 5'10 but in dating apps that would be filtered out.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The study is based on swiping habits. Not actual messaging. (You don't get to the messaging phase if you don't even get swiped on).

Your right that warm/cold approach is better than dating apps. I never used dating apps personally.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/976223/reasons-why-adults-use-dating-websites-apps-usa-gender/

59% of women on dating apps are looking for exclusive romantic relationship.

Dating apps is becoming the most common way to find a partner. It will soon past the traditional ways.

https://www.toptal.com/finance/business-model-consultants/online-dating-industry

There's as much incentives for women as there are for men to use dating apps. And it's becoming more common place. Calling dating apps stupid to dismiss my argument isn't an argument. It's ignoring a new trend and a growing proportion of the population who are choosing dating apps to find romantic partners.

Social media is causing average women to think their are hot stuff. Just because you post a lewd pic of yourself and get 100,000 views, doesn't mean your hot. It just mean 100,000 beta losers are viewing you and you're only attracting desperate men. But women don't see the men who like their post. They only see the numbers. Their ego is inflated and they start calling themselves queens and boss babe. These women don't need to use dating apps to inflate their worth. Just using Instagram or tictok is enough for them to have unrealistic expectations of their dating value.

[–]Liberated_Asexual 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The finding from OKC is absolutely meaningless in the context of contemporary popular dating apps — i.e. on said apps, you can't message someone you don't match with.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women 30+ are having a hard time getting dates. There's plenty of older women sounding like incels, crying that no man will date them.

I just went on a date with a woman in her mid-30s (slightly younger than me) last weekend. They can get dates. They just don't want to go on a date with a 5'6" guys like me who aren't Chads or sugar daddies. That was my first date in over a month btw. So it might seem contradictory when I say that women in their 30s are picky. But you have any idea how many women in their 30s I talked to before I got a date in the last 6 weeks?

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm guessing that's a rhetorical question at the end. I guess 100?

The point is, women lose their value 30+. But they still aiming at the top % of men.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I want to ask that do you know any reason why you were diagnosed with austism?

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

My behaviour was very disruptive when I was a kid. The school made my parents get me evaluated

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Would you mind if I ask what age were your parents when you were born?

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They were in their late 30s. Advanced paternal age is linked with autism in children.

[–]Ihatereeddiitt 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

crippling autism. I'm not socially stupid - I have better "social skills" than many, as in judging whether behavior is socially appropriate or not at least in formal contexts, but I usually can't force myself to talk smoothly or think of appropriate things to say in the heat of the moment. So I can make small talk with people if my energy level is high, but as for more informal, unstructured, recreational interaction with peers, I stopped being capable of that after 4th grade.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Do you know any reason why you got autism?

[–]Ihatereeddiitt 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Born that way

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Would you mind if I ask what age were your parents when you were born?

[–]Ihatereeddiitt 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

33 & 35

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

From incel forums and places i have noticed majority of them display autistic traits or are social outcasts

I am woman but I actually see that in whole reddit even in rpw sub.

In some sub,there is interesting post,people chat.Somehow there is at least one person who always reveal he has adhd or austism.One guy was saying he struggle with adhd. One woman revealed she has bipolar disorder.Some wrote,"As someone with austism,asperger or....'

Don't want to sound rude as I also have my problems but I saw a lot of it .It is insane.In real life,I didnt see that much.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

This is why i think looks, money or height or race are cope to some extent, sure they matter but most of them are also autistic

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I guess.I have never met austistic person in my life.It seems autism is relevant in west

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Can i ask you what country are you from

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't want to reveal lol but south asia

[–]Liberated_Asexual 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Reddit attracts a lot of those types of people.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess maybe they feel free to reveal here.

[–]Hyena_Utopia1 points [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

Being an incel and so clearly undesireable, I thought that there was a possiblity of something being neurologically wrong so I actually had myself tested. Turns out im the least autistic person ever, no other ailments either. Makes sense as I connect with people easily and enjoy social settings.

So yeah, im just quite unattractive looking. Maybe im an anomaly but I doubt it. There has to be other guys like me.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

What do you look like?

Of course there would be exceptions but most i seen acted autist

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m also curious what you look like. Do you have any feature you like on yourself?

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Asking me or the commentor?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry the commenter

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

dm'ed

[–]Liberated_Asexual 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How do you get tested?

[–]jackedsoon 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Most on ppd/reddit that struggle are autists

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are they? It seems everything "we" don't like or relate to is now autism. Which in turn is the new word for the "R" word which is banned in most subs.

[–]Marzipan-Happy1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not, I'm so boring haha

[–]kokorwqac[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your a woman, this has question for men flair

[–]CoverYourAwrahMaroon Pill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean. I have Asperger’s which is on the spectrum, but not to the point where it’s debilitating

[–]Liberated_Asexual 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have ADHD, but I have decent social skills I'd say. I just have no motivation to go out and meet people and don't really know where I would start to even meet people anyways. I feel mentally drained by the end of the workday and really only have motivation/time to push myself to go to the gym.

Edit: i get about 1-2 short-term relationships a year with OLD

[–]Environmental_Lie561 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

NPD here

[–]IHateNormis 0 points1 point  (38 children) | Copy Link

I don’t have autism, I wouldn’t be able to get the job I have if I had autism. I struggle in attracting females due to my face, race and height

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (37 children) | Copy Link

What even is your face, race and height?

Also you're wrong, autistic people can indeed get jobs, i personally know autistic asperger or adhd people who do

Autism is honestly a big failo, trust me i know 6ft white guys who struggle to get friends because of it

[–]IHateNormis 0 points1 point  (36 children) | Copy Link

I have a negative can that tilt, my ramus is too short, my maxilla isn’t forward facing enough, my mandible is a bit too round, my occiput is also not straight enough.

My race is curry and I am 1.78m tall.

I didn’t say autists can’t get jobs. They wouldn’t be able to get the job I do. I work in banking and I have to deal with a lot of senior executives and whatnot, people with 7 to 8 figure salaries.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (35 children) | Copy Link

178 cm is not short bro.

Some autists do work in those jobs, but it usually requires some certificate

[–]IHateNormis 0 points1 point  (34 children) | Copy Link

Not really, you need to be able to build relationships. That is more difficult for autists. Autists can get high paying jobs but they would have to be jobs where you deal with people less.

178cm is short compared to whites

[–]BrummieAMN19 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes I’m cluster B if that counts as neurodivergent. NPD and traits of ASPD are my main disorders, never ever struggled with women to the level guys talk about here tho.

[–]Cesar822BlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am neurodivergent, and I am ugly, I look like Brainy from Hey Arnold.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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