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I think we ought to end the gender war

August 15, 2022
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I am tired of seeing shit show in purple pill where it's about promiscuous women fucking alphas and settling with betas. And usually the blue pill women and feminist preach women's right to casual sex and red pillers say it ruins women's ability to pair bond. In my opinion feminist and blue pillers see people who are critical of hook up culture as insecure men who are envious of people who engage in hook up culture. But my advice for redpillers who want to combat hook up culture like me is not to focus on the promiscuity of women or promiscuity but how hook up culture negatively impact romance in youth and how it pressures romantics to sacrifice their values. Alpha is casual sex and Beta is romance. Why should serious long term relationship be reserved for mature adults, why can't highschools form healthy relationships. I want to change society as whole and teach future generations healthy relationship skills and instill good ethics into them. I ultimately believe we can abolish hook up culture and save romance maybe we cannot eliminate casual sex but we can reduce it's frequency, longevity, and number of participants easily. Blue pills and sex positive feminist will just mock this and spam "people have right to casual sex instead of understanding why people have casual sex", how the culture of casual sex might impact romantic culture and romantics, and how are people affected negatively by this. My point is the war on romance is the real war we should be fighting

Disclaimer I am not anti feminist I believe in egalitarian relationship that is mutual and not parasitic and that women can work. I say this because some might paint me as anti feminist

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[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 10 points11 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

boy, the moment you disagreed with feminism you disagree with women's desires, and the moment you do that you're already swimming upstream.

because the majority of men will flock like docile little lambs to whatever opinion women wish for them to hold.

[–]BumblingBeta 7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Only because men want to get laid. They think that by pandering to exactly what women want, they can get laid. All that does is play in women's hands - you have these average/unattractive men who are obedient to what women want, while the women can just fuck the attractive men whenever they feel like it.

I say average, but average is a bit misleading. Actual average men are considered below average by women.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The irony is that the same women who demand men conform to their wishes will go fuck the guys who don't conform to their wishes.

[–]TryLambda 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

exactly dual mating strategy at its worse.. they will stay with a beta for resources and will go out an sleep with some homeless thug down the street for tingles...

[–]zoloftabuser 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Those women are indifferent towards those men, which is the last thing you want.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

honestly i agree but even gay men from whom women cant withhold something they never wanted are guilty of this

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah unfortunately that is the case

[–]CoverYourAwrahMaroon Pill 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Hey what is white pill?

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

blackpill optimism

[–]CoverYourAwrahMaroon Pill 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Explain? I knew it was optimism. But white pill sounds very similar to blue pill.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

im aware of blackpill i dont deny it

a blooper says looks dont matter and love yourself, i say looks matter and you need to feel loved by others. but you can try to tune out from the pain.

[–]BumblingBeta 2 points3 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

The way that PPD is set up, it perpetuates the gender war. You can't make a top level comment on a CMV thread unless you disagree with the OP, which causes endless arguments because it forces everyone to disagree with everyone all the time. There won't be any consensus or common ground that is reached if people are always forced to disagree.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

That's interesting I never knew thanks for sharing this with me I appreciate it

[–]BumblingBeta 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Sorry I guess I didn't address anything in your OP. I just think PPD needs a lot of improvement.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Nah we have this instead let it get abolished

[–]BumblingBeta 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That's true. I have made many suggestions for improvements on PPD but no one listens. So the only way is to create a new subreddit for discussion, like you say.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yea, that place will flag you and remove your comment or worse ban you if you agree with the OP.

[–]brightglowup1 points [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

The way that PPD is set up, it perpetuates the gender war

Not really. I have been permabanned and I'm a consistent 20 something female cover there. This is something that always happens in PPD

The rules for different types of threads are smart but it doesnt mean anything if in reality the mod team cultivates a certain culture there

Its older married women and angry men that get cultivated on that sub. For the most part man can say anything they want about women but the inverse is not the same. As with every major platform it's men get to be who they are and women get silenced

Which creates a rise in certain messaging which then results in outcomes men then say "how did this happen"

How can it be a gender war when it's just men raging and women being invalidated

And no I wont say majority female subs extend much tolerance to men in the inverse

What I will say is the "gender war" is women seeing what men are doing and adjusting accordingly. You cant tell me that the most famous of male interests are saying how worthless women are then conclude this is anything but the female sex adjusting to the conditions men are creating

Do you disagree

[–]BumblingBeta 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

For the most part man can say anything they want about women but the inverse is not the same. As with every major platform it's men get to be who they are and women get silenced

Interesting, I notice the exact opposite. It's women who can say anything they want and are protected, while men are the ones who are silenced and censored for their views.

In fact, if you just reverse the genders in your post, what you said would be accurate.

I saw a very accurate post on PPD a few days ago:

"as soon as you realize everything women accuse men of is just projection, then it all makes sense"

This is exactly what you have done here.

[–]brightglowup1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Interesting, I notice the exact opposite

Funny how me being an example is not relevant nor are the other people I mentioned.

"as soon as you realize everything women accuse men of is just projection, then it all makes sense"

And this has no bearing here because anyone can literally go to PPD, pick a week, and count how many male posts vs female posts or male antagonistic comments vs female antagonsitic comments and the objective data would undermine what u said

But hey. Yall dont do good faith. The root of all your issues comes back to this anyway

shrugs

[–]BumblingBeta 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Funny how me being a live example contradicting your assertion is not relevant nor are the other people I mentioned. Typical

You were probably a crazy FDSer. Yeah women can get banned, but overall I see women get better treatment far more than men do.

And this has no bearing here because anyone can literally go to PPD, pick a week, and count how many male posts vs female posts or male antagonistic comments vs female antagonsitic comments and the objective data would undermine what u said

But hey. Yall dont do good faith. The root of all your issues comes back to this anyway

shrugs

There are more men on PPD than women so of course you will get more male posts. I don't see how "everything women accuse men of is just projection" relates to this at all.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

For the most part man can say anything they want about women but the inverse is not the same.

I kind of have same experience. I once said woman would rather get cheated on by rich man than poor man. I got message automod please🙄

When men said it, nothing happened.

Here is my theory,in PPD sub,

I think moderator want to include single post wall woman who is proud, woman with blue pill,alpha male,prosmicious woman,man who are having fun,man who is having trouble in dating but don't whine(so that they can enjoy watching drama lol.)Rest they want to exclude like women with red pill,man who always whine or like incel.

[–]TryLambda 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

????????????????? trust me men, red pilled guys get censored more on that sub than women

[–]Ylduts 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I tried to get around this by using the Discussion flair but the mods take it upon themselves to change it to CMV.

[–]BumblingBeta 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can't make an "affirmative claim" in any thread title, unless it's a CMV thread. Which basically means you can't say anything is true or false eg. you can't ask "why are women's standards higher than men?". You've made a claim that women's standards are higher than men, which is not allowed. You have to put it as a CMV thread: "Women's standards are higher than men" or instead ask "Are women's standards higher than men?".

This can be extended to really stupid things like "why is the sky blue?". We all know the sky is blue, but according to PPD, you've made an affirmative claim, which isn't allowed. Your thread now has to be changed to a CMV: "The sky is blue" and everyone who posts is forced to disagree with this obvious fact.

It's just another of the stupid rules on that sub which make zero sense. We all know women's standards are higher, yet you're not allowed to use it in a question. This is yet another way that no consensus or common ground is reached. You can't say anything is true, unless it's in a thread title that then forces everyone who posts to disagree with you. Utter stupidity whoever thought those rules up.

Hope I made sense there! :P

[–]TheElusivePeacock 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much. It’s a hilarious place to get a hearty laugh and then go back into the real world. This shit isn’t real, it’s just hilarious

[–]BumblingBeta 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

The female posters on PPD, the vast majority are middle aged, either married, divorced or separated. They basically come to the sub to mock and belittle the young men who are struggling with women. Sometimes offering very basic advice which is of no help, or they gaslight by saying things like sex doesn't matter.

[–]TheElusivePeacock 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

And the male pov, entitled and hating life because they can’t get sex and telling women they’ll be miserable if they don’t sign up to be a slave/maid to a man she’s not attracted to. Like I said, all hilarious. A place for a hearty laugh. Then go back in the real world where everyone is actually dating and having fun 🤷🏽‍♀️.

[–]zoloftabuser 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s a hearty laugh because you’re a woman.

[–]WOPR-19831 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Alpha is casual sex and Beta is romance.

Because you'll never end the gender war if the innate narcissism of men disallows them to accept that Alphas get a free pass to the bedroom and their path is more akin to a rather complex maze.

So long as beta men see this as some sort of conspiracy and cry foul, there will always be Purple Pill Debate.

The innate female narcissism is believing they "are" whatever man they can bed, which results in some women thinking that "men are just assholes" when in fact they too are in a state of denial about their place in the SMP. They think they can outmaneuver high value women trying to access high value men simply by being easy, and it doesn't work that way. Just because you're giving yourself away for free doesn't mean you're truly desired.

Both men and women today, BTW, seem to be shallow as fuck and be interested in looks, status and power more than every before. For such an allegedly "woke and aware" bunch, this is sure a backward step in human thinking.

True Red Pill is knowing - honestly knowing - who you are in the SMP and adjusting your behavior accordingly, to reduce the amount of turmoil one feels. That could mean "looksmaxing" or earning more money, or that could mean opting out entirely. But whatever the case, so long as people remain deluded with large blind spots and cognitive dissonance going on, the "debate" will continue.

Average women: I deserve a 1 in 1000 man because I have a degree!

Average men: I'm average but average women won't even look at me! Wah!

Average men, too, need to let go of the fact they are male and they will never have the female privilege of accessing sexually attractive partners just by being easy. If you want females privileges, fellas, get a sex change. Oh wait. Then you have all the DOWNSIDES of being female. Like having every male in a 10 mile radius trying to get into your pants 100% of the time whether or not they're in your league or even age range.

Lots of "grass is greener" thinking with Pillers too. And I'm as much a piller as the next piller.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I love this comment it's well written. You took the words out of my mouth with the critism of red pillers which I agree whole hesrtedly. Both genders are messed up and both need to take responsibility

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Female sexlessness is actually increasing, it's just that a lot of females are either shut ins(you don't see them) or that males give way too much attention to obvious whores

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Whining to women as a man about their female privileges while enjoying male priviliges is indeed the underbelly of Red Pill ideology. These are valid critcisms.

Male privilege absolutely exists. I agree. But only for the upper-middle and top classes of men. So basically the top 40%

If you're some 4/10, 5'2 guy who is Asain with an ugly face, there really is no "male privilege" to conceive of, even the stereotypical ones. Stronger than women? Not really. More successful in the workplace? Nope. More opportunities for jobs and education? Complete lie.

The stereotypical benefits of being a man simply do not exist for the lower echelon. I've accepted that. Some animals in the wild survive, thrive, and reproduce. Others... don't. We are the ones who don't. I've made my peace with it.

https://youtu.be/6THD8lqpsOs

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not even something we can end. The gender war is just another tactic for the globalist to divide humanity.

The globalist are waging war on humanity. If we want this shit to end, we have to fight the problem at the source. What the solution is? I don't know. Your solution to ignore the problem is a decent solution. But half the country are sheep's and will do as they are told.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I never said to ignore the problem

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, how do you propose we deal with a problem that is actively being waged on humanity by the globalist?

Edit: if everyone did ignore the propaganda from the globalist, the globalist would have no power.

[–]HazyMemory7 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Never going to happen unless you're content with watching feminism unjustly strip away things from men to benefit women and destroying society.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sex positive feminist aren't against men they are against commitment and romance being experienced in youth and their euphemism is we only care about their freedom to have casual sex which again is dog whistle for we want to maintain status quo

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists are in favor of female supremacy.

[–]rurunoa 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

how does single women having sex strip away things from men

[–]HazyMemory7 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm talking about things like this, not sex.

[–]rurunoa 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

are the male players the ones paying them? men arent losing anything. if i read it correctly the change doesn’t affect men at all and they will continue to get the same as before

[–]HazyMemory7 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

are the male players the ones paying them?

Yes. In the new deal, the women earn half of the bonuses men get for qualifications/tournament wins. So if the men qualify for the men's world cup, the bonus gets split between both teams. The men's world cup total prize money pool, at 440 million total, is ~7-8x that of the women's. And obviously, qualifying for the men's world cup is astronomically more difficult because there is orders of magnitudes more talent.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/18/us-womens-and-mens-teams-agree-equal-share-of-world-cup-prize-money

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes the male players are paying them. Just like the NBA subsidizes the WNBA because the WNBA sucks ass.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Who is talking about sex? Sex is a very very very minute portion of life.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Personally that is the only way forward. Feminism is a billion dollar industry and political power is setup in favor of it. For men the only solution is to stop or limit participation in a society that largely hates them but still requires their participation and servitude.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

No incel content. /s

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

How is this incel content?

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was joking.

Posts like this are the reason this sub was made.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you man!

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He/she is joking because that's a standard response you seen on PPD. Anything that questions the feminist oligarchy is somehow incel content.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was never popular with women, but paying close attention to the relationship dynamics of my friends and relatives, it seems like there is this big rift between the genders that just wasn't there in the early 2000's even.

Most of my friends and relatives have been through bitter divorces and most are single, only occasionally engaging in online dating/hookup culture. And it seems like the concept of "family units" are no longer appealing to a lot of people.

[–]bludkrazeRED AF 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a gender war, yes. The solution to it is to not participate. Mind your own business and do what promises the best outcome and most happiness for you. Try to produce a society of individual but happy people. They try to tell you it's a gender war but it's more of a media/marketing war. Angry people consume and they win. Divide and conquer.

You're on your own as is everyone else. Feminism, church, social class, gender etc. All of that is just used to make you cling to a group that promotes a certain behavior that in turn can be exploited for financial gain and political power.

The solution is to live your best life instead of using someone else's pattern to love life. That way you can be grounded and happy in your own right. Goes for both men and women and hopefully we can circle.back to a point where men are men and women are women and like each other for their obvious differences.

[–]optimus69prime69 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why should serious long term relationship be reserved for mature adults, why can't highschools form healthy relationships.

You can't have a lasting relationship and family without a stable career. And high schoolers just can't have that compared to 200 years ago.

Changing the education system could be a good start. It's format of 12 years + college + university hasn't changed for ever. Many school subjects are useless. An education system that focuses on career will result in earlier career build-up, earlier marriages and serious relationships. I thought maybe CCP would start doing that since they're really hurting because of their population decline and are very isolated and authoritarian which makes things easier, but they're not that revolutionary these days.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How old is college and university though, just because it feels like they have not changed for years doesn't mean they won't change. The CCP has been corrupted but economic reforms back then you were gauranteed jobs.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (29 children) | Copy Link

If you really mean what you said,you must be really young man as you seem optimistic about it.

Gender war is never going to end.Maybe it will be reduced but will never end.

Alpha is casual sex and Beta is romance.

This is my really stupid and naive question and some stupid thought I have

Why are you against casual sex?It can benefits man,for women consequences will be felt later anyway but man,you had sex which is what you wanted.Women value already go down no matter what.As a result,Marriage rate will go down which isn't bad as there is not much marriage benefit for man.Even my dad said if he has second chance for life,he will not get married even though he is happily married to my mom and have loving relationship.He sometimes wished he had fun by dating around, flirting etc or just remain single.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (28 children) | Copy Link

I apologize for late reply I was busy

I am against casual sex because I see it as a threat to the adolescences romance culture I grew up with. Mainly with media with romantic subplots and I am lucky my school was a safe bubble so not many fuckboys. If casual sex exist that's would mean society is doing something different to get people to want casual sex by creating the ideology and environment for casual sex. One way it does is porn and sex education in it's current form. I have an article that talks about the problem with sex education and it's not orgasm gap that's the problem. The article is called love as taboo https://www.city-journal.org/html/%E2%80%98l%E2%80%99-word-love-taboo-11835.html

So this would mean casual sex would be depicted more frequently in media that kids watch and consume and learn from. Remember kids are impressionable as they are supposed to be. This would kill and break my heart to know future kids will be not have the comfort feeling of romance instead a fleeting feeling a pleasure derived from lonliness and leaving people. We might even end up like asocial animals where men and women just meet for sex in which they don't share beds, rooms, houses, communities, or even nations. Nations might be a stretch but it could happen. And plus if romance happens it's because it's the beta, its just something adults have to do and kids should avoid. It denies kids the right to romance basically and learn important skills and lessons they can apply to future relationships they go into.

The fwb or fuckbuddy is just flings repackaged as this woke new cool thing that suppresses "feelings" which absolves pressure to commit (which is self imposed by the way). I can critique the mechanical function of fwb but I want to say for now that by practicing the suppression of romantic feeling your body might develop foreboding joy something that I am cursed with. In which your mind shuts down and feelings of joy automatically without intention. I admit I have no evidence for this but I think it's possible so my fear is valid in my opinion. Let's say you meet a dude you like but there is something about him that prevents something long term happening like let's say he is moving away or he doesn't want kids so instead of being in fwb being in fling is better. Is it going to hurt more when you break up yeah but at least you develop your relationship skills and can apply it in future and you get to truely experience joy in those moments that you can relive in. Some people might say I naturally don't get attached to people. But then I would question their upbringings. I noticed adults loose their emotional self as they grow up but some retain their emotional self like me so it's most likely social conditioning in my opinion than a genetic reality. I would have to do more research though.

I am going to be stern here not out of contempt but for your own good. Women are not our tools to be fucking used and casted away. Nor are women slaves that deserve that meet all our need without receiving love or appreciation. We romantics see you guys as integreral part of us. Whether in romantic relationship or platonic you guys are important and your desires and wants from us are important. Don't you dare think for a second you are useless or insignificant. Without you we wouldn't have society in the first place. I don't care what your father thinks he does not represent the romantics. I have read stories online where guys cry after having casual sex because they wanted love and affection. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/postcoital-dysphoria-condition-causing-sadness-and-crying-after-sex-affects-1047525%3famp=1 If I ever get a wife I will not regret missing out I will regret not meeting her sooner. I hope you take what you can from this. Yes I am young but I don't place my optimism onto wishful thinking I read data and understand the nature of reality, can I be wrong sometimes sure but it's a learning process. Every contradiction will resolve itself eventually that is the nature of entropy, the social contradiction between men and women not only can but will be resolved. It will take a lot of work but we can raise future generation with proper values. Trust me I am a very cautious guy I have forbidding joy where I reject something if it makes me happy, I conditioned myself to be happy only when I can prove to myself it's safe to be happy.

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[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (26 children) | Copy Link

Yes ,casual sex should not exposed to kids and teens.For late teens,I would say they should get sex education especially girls as some get married at 18-19.Only thing is media should not boast about casual sex

As long as women are safe and no one is getting hurt, I don’t see how or why it matters how many people they sleep. This is very controversial for you but I believe casual sex have some benefits benefits as man will learn and develop skills that skills would be useful for his future wife or gf.As one day man will get tired anyway and will be ready for actual relationship and woman would love it as man’s n count doesn’t matter.Woman should be accepting of it since man aren’t built like them.Nowadays,it is not like because of feminism.Woman should know that if she indulge in casual sex ,she just should be accepting of man who accept her( like beta) as her type of man will not accept it or much older man.Woman who want best man and long term commitment,they should marry early and avoid casual sex.Monogamy isn’t natural but for woman,it is kind of.So high n count man and low n count woman works well in marriage.

Women tend to regret having TOO many sex partners, while men regret not having more.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/9680-study-says-women-regret-casual-sex-men-regret-not-having-more-of-it

I have read stories online where guys cry after having casual sex because they wanted love and affection.

Duh .That’s their fault.But that mostly aligned to man who is incel or beta or always whine and do nothing to improve himself

you meet a dude you like but there is something about him that prevents something long term happening like let's say he is moving away or he doesn't want kids so instead of being in fwb being in fling is better. Is it going to hurt more when you break up yeah but at least you develop your relationship skills and can apply it in future and you get to truely experience joy in those moments that you can relive in.

That sounds very stupid.Woman should not do that as her value lose if she does it and no real man accept it.Maybe it can work for man as women love experience man and man see sex and love differently.Romance should never be priority of man and woman should work hard,learn skill and how to compromise and sacrifices if she wants romance.

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A man can learn those skills and benefits more efficient in a long term relationship or even by reading than one night stand or suppressing his emotions. I understand you have a fetish for n count man and you are just projecting your fetish here. I am not going to take a bustle article seriously at all they have huge cultural biases and look at studies that follows their view points, they are no better than cosmopolitan at all. Give me a collection of peer reviewed studies.

It's not men or women's fault for getting into hook ups they regret, they were pressured into it by social norms that goes against their actual desires.

It's not stupid to express your emotions and love your partners even if they are flings or not meant to be. What's stupid is shutting and suppressing your emotions. My life is so fucking miserable because of my foreboding joy I developed through people forcing their disgusting pessimistic view. Do you know how hard that is to not be able to feel joy no matter how much you want to, and that you need peer reviewed studies and more to justify yourself to express joy. Its so much more easy for me to believe in something that's is wrong and hurts my feelings than something that is right and makes me feel good. Do you even know how painful it is to live life with foreboding joy as your default.

I am not trying to change your mind at all but I want you to understand me that's all. Take what you will but I am done here.

I apologize for coming off as rude or hostile here but I felt like I need to be stern I don't want to be a door mat lol.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (24 children) | Copy Link

I don't have fetish for them.It is just how I see

It's not stupid to express your emotions and love your partners even if they are flings or not meant to be.

I don't know about you.In my experience, that leads to more foreboding joy lol.I truly believe woman should not do it

My life is so fucking miserable because of my foreboding joy I developed through people forcing their disgusting pessimistic view.

I know it sucks.Sometimes you don't get what you expect.I just accept reality and move on.I think it is because I am very accepting of truth even if it hurts.

What is causing you more foreboding joy? You mentioned you are young man so right now it is going to be hard,just work hard and improve yourself .You will get romance you dream of later.

[–]rurunoa 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

na im a feminist and my only problem is the double standard. i think hook up culture is bad for everyone but why would i care if women engage in it, i am not gonna date any of these women. what matters to me is wether the person i am with participated in it but that doesn’t mean i will say it is okay to do it if ur a woman because if i was a man i would have the same opinion. also tons of feminists are against causal sex because it doesn’t benefit women.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I participate in no war with women, I simply recognize that having one cohabitate with me isn't healthy for my financial life.

[–]TryLambda 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Easy fix....just educate youngsters that the more men you sleep with the less valuable you become as a female when it comes to settling down as men do not want to pay for the town bike, where everyone gets a turn apart from himself, and no ROI exists.... also bring back slut shaming in full force.... this will reduce hook up culture....

[–]TheElusivePeacock 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Some of us are not romantic and don’t want to be forced into relationships we don’t want just because other people do and can’t fathom someone not living like they do. Nothing needs to be “saved”. People can do whatever they want, married, FWB, LTR, celibate, whatever without society trying to shove a one sized fits all. There are men and women who don’t want romance. Please leave us out of your story.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

What is your gender and your ideology if you don't mind me asking?

[–]TheElusivePeacock 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

I’m a woman. My only ideology is live your life how you want it. Is it legal? Is everyone adults? Is everyone consenting? Then live how you want, I don’t give a shit and keep that same energy for everyone else.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Interesting, but can you point to where I said I want to force people who don't want romance into romantic relationship? Because I don't think I said anything like that in my post. To me it seems like you are strawmaning me. For entertainment let's say your ideology is correct, by your own ideololgy how is me saving romance unconsentual or legal? To elaborate let's say when I mean I want to save romance I mean by writing romance books and teaching people healthy relationship skills in workshops. If not then shouldn't you mind your own business?

[–]TheElusivePeacock 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Go save romance then. Leave everyone else alone. No one’s stopping you from writing a romance novel or whatever other shit you want to do. Instead you got on here and did the normal incel talking points whining about pair bonding. “Abolishing” hook up culture sounds stupid. How about you just don’t participate in and leave everyone else who enjoys it alone? Abolishing hook up culture sounds a lot like forcing people into romantic relationships. Some of us enjoy hook ups. Some people enjoy romance. Find out what which one you enjoy and go forth. Stop trying to “abolish” something in favor of how you want to live your life. You could have write a romantic poem instead of this. Instead you decided to not mind your business and cry about hook up culture and abolishing it. You can do all that shit without trying to reduce what other people are doing in their lives.

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