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If even Tom Brady can't preserve a marriage, what is it that are everyday folk going to do? Monogamy is incompatible with current society.

Heartherebelyell
February 27, 2023
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Tom Brady Launches 'Desperate Attempt' To Win Over Ex Gisele Bundchen — But She's Not Interested: 'Happier Than Ever'

And Kanye, and Bill Gates, and Bezos and so on and so forth

Counterpoint: celebrities have always had relational instability.

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Title If even Tom Brady can't preserve a marriage, what is it that are everyday folk going to do? Monogamy is incompatible with current society.
Author Heartherebelyell
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Date February 27, 2023 6:59 PM UTC (1 month ago)
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[–]tired_hillbilly 13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Tom Brady is basically a homunculus, all he has going on in his head is football. It's no wonder Gisele left him.

Kanye is clearly coocoo for cocopuffs, again no wonder he's divorced; not defending Kim either btw.

Bill Gates took multiple trips to pedo island, and I bet Melinda knows exactly what he did there. Again, no wonder why she left him.

Like these are not great examples for proving monogamy doesn't work. They're just examples that pedos and sociopaths are bad partners.

[–]blebbyroo 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with all this

[–]_Administrator_ 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Melinda left him once Epstein became infamous.

[–]tired_hillbilly 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Maybe she didn't know till that whole fiasco.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

LMAO Wahmen flock to pigs like them, full of Blood Money, instead of picking a good man.

As for Brady he´s told at a young age to sacrifice for football all he has currently in Wealth and Status is allowed by his football career and enjoyed by Giselle lets not kid ourselves she liked it for a long time to be the woman of a high value man.

[–]infinitofluxo 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't think this is a case of "see, women don't want to stay married" as he cheated on her, it doesn't seem he is a man being discarded because girls wanna have fun.

But obvioualy Giselle will market herself as a free woman now that she has a reason to be single.

[–]Heartherebelyell[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Tom Brady cheated or the other examples

[–]sebasTLCQG 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

He has more money he´s going to use it to cheat, why are people surprised about this? If he had less money he wouldnt cheat, but that wouldnt be attractive to his wahmen that likes the big fat bills of cash in his wallet.

People never take into consideration that "Extra Money" has to go somewhere.

[–]Zombombaby 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Giselle earns more than Brady so this is a weird comment.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So what? It works equally both ways, if both have a ton of money both can cheat or use it post divorce to get Lower than high class to settle for them.

IT´s win-win with different rules for the rich as usual same old, same old for everyone else, less money less infidelty, with no divorce splitting assets and less money = more loyal love partner.

Sportstars do have a problem with handling "Extra Money" though, it´s not even funny.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

the whole idea of marriage isn't compatible with human nature , if you want to protect marriages you need to bring back the patriarchy

[–]Heartherebelyell[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

How's that gonna happen

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

patriarchy keep women in their houses , no job and no education so they cannot be able to provide for their selves .therefore they will need to rely on the husband to do all the work while they stay at home

when you give women the right to have a job and compete with males then she dosen't need to follow the monogamous ideas of the men.

[–]Heartherebelyell[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What is the mechanism by which such a thing would occur

[–]Motor_Second_5637 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There’re significantly more people who want monogamy than non-monogamy/polyamory, hence why the dating pool is so small if you’re actually upfront about not wanting sexual exclusivity. What ends up happening is people downplay that and drop it on people after they’ve already started becoming attached, it works fine for awhile until the novelty of being unconventional wears off, and someone ends up being monogamous again.

[–]l00ks-p1lled 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're hot enough you're always going to have Beckys that desire you. I think this is enough to make a man somewhat happy about his sexual life

What I'm saying is that the Hot privilege is still fucking real and I honestly don't care if Chad loses Stacy wife because he remains privileged

[–]Rook_Cross 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There's more to marriage than being rich and good looking. You have to spend time, enjoyable time and connect with your spouse and kids. You have to have similar ideas about lifestyle, similar goals, not too demanding schedules that keep you apart, be faithful. Celebrities are human too and have problems, can be jerks, can be wronged, can have bad communication. The only reason anyone is surprised by Brady/Gisele splitting is people with an unrealistic view, a warped view, of what is important in a marriage. RP types don't seem to want to accept that looks and money and being chad aren't the only thing either, because all their hopes hinge on that. No ones perfect, sometimes the troubles overwhelm. Plenty of people, most people even, stay married though. No one can give you a guarantee. If you would rather not try, than risk failure, well, that's a sad way to live life. Kanye obviously has some mental problems. Gates and Bezos, well, people at that level often have personality traits not conducive to a healthy marriage. Few men are like these celebrities, they should stop obsessing over them like they are.

[–]Heartherebelyell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

RP types don't seem to want to accept that looks and money and being chad aren't the only thing either, because all their hopes hinge on that.

For casual. Their position is that marriage is untenable today.

[–]rantsincognito 1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Not in modern Western society, no. Monogamy still clearly works in many places in the world. Western men created this problem, the chickens have come home to roost.

[–]Heartherebelyell[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Western society is everywhere, increasing daily

[–]rantsincognito 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I agree that Western hegemony is spreading across the world like the Borg. Westerners are seeking to export feminism all across the world so this problem will affect everyone in the future if they get their way and there will be no respite from it.

[–]keitaitonekoko#8 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

cheating is even more prominent in societies like india, and i heard this personally from a guy who lived in china, a lot of chinese just turn a blind eye if some ''smal'' cheating happens from either wife or husband's side. cheating with prostitutes is also common.

eastern societies have fundamentally different ones from western societies.

[–]sebasTLCQG 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats what happens when people have too many "extra money" on their pockets, they dont do that in North Korea, they remain loyal husbands and wives.

[–]rantsincognito 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes, random Indian/Chinese man - surely the source of truth. Yes, Western society is the one doing well in terms of female cheating. Good show.

[–]donttagme7 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

there's actual studies about this: https://www.livemint.com/industry/media/55-married-indians-have-cheated-on-their-spouses-most-are-women-survey-11582712240534.html

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2057150X221108574?journalCode=chsa#:\~:text=In%202020%2C%2026%25%20of%20married,19%25%20of%20married%20women).

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // أشهد أن لا حبة إلا الحبة السوداء 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

OVER

[–]rantsincognito 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

The first one is a SURVEY conducted by a [French] cheating dating app. You know, like AshleyMadison that was found to be making shit up and more than half the people on it aren't even real. That's who is your authoritative source?

The second I can't even read because it is behind a paywall, but the abstract did not say anything close to what you are claiming. A Google search on the article says "26% of married Chinese". Bruh, that's pretty much where Western society is at, if not lower. A quick Google search for the US said it was between 30-60%. That's just for married people, it is even higher for "non-married relationships", which isn't as much of a thing in China. Being from the US, I would say the number is probably higher.

You're telling me in places where women can barely leave the house are the ones conducting all of these affairs more than places like France where it is an open custom? No less, the proof is an online app in a country notorious for catfishing and pretending to be women to scam. Good critical thinking there. Look at hard, quantifiable data like extra paternity events. Where does that occur more often?

You can find any stat you want to, because none of these are done by actual scientists. Here, how about this one: https://sexualalpha.com/infidelity-cheating-statistics/ - look at the top 10 countries of cheaters. And this one wasn't done by a Western app trying to make money out of more people cheating.

[–]donttagme7 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/infidelity-rates-by-country

and there's another source i found

but even in your source, japan,thailand,russia and romania are on the list, aren't those countries popular for people who want a ''non-western tradwife''?

[–]rantsincognito 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Russia: this is just gatekeeping on who is "Western". They are white, Christian, Europeans. C'mon they are pretty much Western. I'd also venture that the high cheating figure isn't as much from women as they are from men.

Romania: very similar to Russia above.

Japan: US vassal state. It is routinely used as a prototype example of how future Western society will look even on PPD forums. Similar to more men cheating to women here, I would assume.

Thailand: this is the closest I'll give you to a counterpoint. But they are also quite different from Eastern countries in that they are basically accepting being a sexpat's haven. Like Japan, they ache to be part of the Western world. Maybe the exception to the rule.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Japan is so Bad they have a support Network for Jack Murphy like cuckholdry in the Form of NTR doujinshis.

They are like Modern Sodom and Gommorah they have no future.

[–]ClothesOnInTheDark 2 points3 points  (37 children) | Copy Link

It does show that not even GigaChad can get his girl to stay. The idea of hope for the average guy is a joke.

[–]blebbyroo 1 point2 points  (36 children) | Copy Link

Gisele wouldn’t be an average woman though she’s a gigastacy so things are different for both of them

[–]ClothesOnInTheDark 1 point2 points  (35 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't matter that she is a Stacy. She can't do better than Tom Brady. The point is that even at the maxed out attraction level women still are not satisfied.

[–]blebbyroo 0 points1 point  (34 children) | Copy Link

I’m sure she can.

But it doesn’t matter even if she can’t, if people aren’t happy why do you thi k they should stay together?

[–]ClothesOnInTheDark -1 points0 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

There is no man better than Tom Brady. She should stay together for the sake of her children and because you should not make large life decisions on a momentary feeling.

[–]blebbyroo 1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

It’s easy to say there is no person better than x when you are looking from the outside in.

Maybe trust adults to make the best decisions for themselves and their children.

No one gets divorced on a whim.

[–]ClothesOnInTheDark 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

What? People get divorced on a whim everyday. Maybe adults should learn to deal with their problems instead of running away.

[–]blebbyroo 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

They don’t. Women will consider for around 6 months if they want to leave a relationship and then it takes them around another 6 months to leave he relationship

[–]ClothesOnInTheDark 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Do you know by experience or are you just guessing?

[–]blebbyroo 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

I’ve never divorced but I have left relationships after planning to do it for more than 6 months. Most women I know have done the same.

Takes 6 months to decide, giving guy cha chances to work on the issues and then if things don’t improve moves into planning phase make sure we have a support network ready, friends ready to hang out with, fortifying mental health and saving enough money to be financially independent for the break up

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (18 children) | Copy Link

Hey Dummie, How can she do better than 1% high value man?

Is she gonna marry a 0.000000001% Unicorn or something?🤣

Tom Brady is like a elite among elites, at best she could swap him for another high value man, but it wouldnt be the same thing and everyone knows it.

[–]blebbyroo 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

No need to call me names.

I’m sure she is going to do just fine.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

She´ll have to date down, she´ll do fine once she settles for that and calms down her entitlement, the world owes her nothing, her sacrifices are nothing compared to what Tom Brady had to go through in his career from a very young age with millions of young dudes looking to replace him.

[–]blebbyroo 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure she isn’t going to date down.

Don’t know what people Are taking this divorce personally. It’s not your relationship why do you care

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Couldnt care a rat´s ass about which printed news releases this sh**.

It´s a whole different ball game, if folks start insulting Pro Football just to simp for Giselle, Tom Brady´s Career is no joke, he´s downright told to his face to sacrifice for Football to be a pro, how do people think he made money with that sort of career otherwise? From Training to playing the games, nobody cares about Tom Brady, just the Sacrifice he put into that career of his, thats what determines the value of Tom Brady.

For a lower value Wahmen to come in and try to make it about her, it´s hilarious at best, a sadfest of self-pity from her to watch at worst, lets not pretend she didnt knew what she was getting into when she married Tom Brady, his career will always come first, case thats what he´s expected to do training and playing the games long before Giselle came along.

[–]blebbyroo 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Don’t think anyone has said anything bad about his ability.

It can be lonely at the top of anything because you sacrifice a lot to get there and stay there especially your time.

If Giselle isn’t happy then she should leave. That’s fine.

[–]Taraa_Sitaraa 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's so wierd. Men differentiate between themselves by high value/low value thing, then get mad at women when they date down? Think that dating down means she doing bad in her life. How? What she wants in a relationship is not something you or I know. If Tom Brady was good enough for her she wouldn't have left him. Then men will troll her new partners and think he's not at par with Brady when Giselle might be happy with them.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

LMAO This is rich woman's hypergamy dictates high/low value men not the other way around men most if not always date down for a woman.

We know what she wants in a relationship with Tom Brady High status this is why hypergamous models like her dont settle down for middle class men that'll love and care for her instead of high value sportstar career savvy dudes like Brady.

[–]Taraa_Sitaraa 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

LMAO This is rich woman's hypergamy dictates high/low value men not the other way around men most if not always date down for a woman.

Men troll other men for being low value like you did. You think she can't do better than Brady because you think Brady is some sort of high value guy. Giselle probably doesn't see it that way and that's why she left. Men from all walks of life love and care about their wife, children and extended family. It's not like they suddenly loose all emotions. She even earned more than him, I don't see how that's hypergamous. Men also cheat on their partners if their partners earn more than them, other men troll them for not being man enough and earning less than their partners. Clearly she wanted a guy of different value because she left" high value Brady".

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Bullcrap, I'm making fun of her hypergamy plenty of model chicks go for sportstars like Brady divorce and dont get a better man in return.

Should've just married someone else and not Brady models like her always disrespect the middle class and go for the high value man and then divorce and end up settling for somebody else case they couldnt handle high value men.

Shows a lot about her and what models like her stand for.

Now imagine this BS gives her best years to Brady and wants a "better man" now like what 1-2 years away from his retirement this shit reeks of hypergamy from monday to sunday simp.

[–]Taraa_Sitaraa 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How are you making fun of her hypergamy when she might date down because she won't find anyone better than Brady as you said. Infact she left Brady, he didn't leave her. It's quite literally opposite of hypergamy. Lol

[–]LiftSushiDallas 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it would have helped if he didn't backtrack on a major promise to his spouse to retire?

Let's not pretend she divorced him out of nowhere. He knew why.

[–]Heartherebelyell[S] 5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Seems odd that that would be the only thing

[–]LiftSushiDallas 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

I doubt it was. I bet that kind of career is hard on a marriage.

But imagine her looking forward to his retiring and being with her and the kids.

And he HAS to flip on this. For what? Another ring? They have more money than they could ever spend in one life.

It was a selfish decision.

[–]OberOst 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Something was rotten with their marriage to being with. Who chooses football over spending more time with Giselle Bundchen?

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

OberOst LMAO you really dont get how football careers work, these dudes like Tom Brady are told right from a young age to sacrifice everything for football and those sacrifices and rewards (fat wallet) are the only reason Giselle Bundchen spent any time with him whatsoever.

When she attempted to undermine his record career he didnt act well

[–]LiftSushiDallas 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Giselle's fortune she made as a model EXCEEDS his.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Up to debate, if she was that richer than him why settle for a dude that makes less than her???

[–]LiftSushiDallas 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because they both made great money, so she chose him for other reasons like his looks and status.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

LMAO so she offers herself to be his trophy wife so easily?

After divorce he already got a 20YO European Model going out with him, whats up with these Sportstars getting hot models that make more than them offering themselves up as Trophy Wives? It makes 0 sense!

[–]Lasers_Pew_Pew_Pew -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I hate this type of thinking, it's so ridiculous and loser ish

[–]Heartherebelyell[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Then it would be really easy to argue the opposite position, and yet I don't see any arguments, just childish insults

[–]EviessVeralan 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

A great place to start is to not neglect your wife and kids for a job. This, as well as the cheating and the going back on promises, is a marriage killer. The number of people who dont see this as common sense is astounding to me.

[–]sebasTLCQG -1 points0 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

That Job is his life, dummie, dudes like Tom Brady are told at a Young age to sacrifice everything for a sports career he just did as advertised dont blame him, blame the game he has to play.

As for Giselle she´s just another Gold Digger only reason she cared about him was case of his career results, ofc he wasnt part away from his career like this.

[–]EviessVeralan 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

blame the game he has to play.

He made multiple promises to leave that he went back on. He is responsible for his actions.

As for Giselle she´s just another Gold Digger only reason she cared about him was case of his career results, ofc he wasnt part away from his career like this.

She is a successful model who has a net worth almost twice what his is. This accusation is absurd and could have been debunked with a minute long google search.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

Same bull as other Superstars, if the model wives are so successful why are they settling to be trophy wives for the Superstars? Tom Brady isnt special in this regard, other superstars have "successful models" as wives that dont mind having kids with them.

As for him breaking his promises, he likely saw the writting on the wall that Giselle wouldnt be a good post retirement wife, a lot of superstar dumbasses get into marriages with the entirety of them based on the sheer weight of their careers and then the wives cant adjust to the retirement period, it´s also a problem if Brady retires to early and Giselle resents him from it too.

If they want a balanced relationship there´s better fish in the sea, Tom Brady is like one of the big high class Pro Athletes out there, it´ll be hard even for a successful model to build a equal relationship with a guy like that, whose entire career is basically: "Sacrifice for Football", Giselle will always come 2nd and be described on the news as: "The Wife of Tom Brady".

[–]EviessVeralan 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Same bull as other Superstars, if the model wives are so successful why are they settling to be trophy wives for the Superstars? Tom Brady isnt special in this regard, other superstars have "successful models" as wives that dont mind having kids with them.

No one said she was settling. I only brought this up because people kept trying to accuse her of gold digging to relieve Brady of his responsibility for the marriage ending.

As for him breaking his promises, he likely saw the writting on the wall that Giselle wouldnt be a good post retirement wife, a lot of superstar dumbasses get into marriages with the entirety of them based on the sheer weight of their careers and then the wives cant adjust to the retirement period, it´s also a problem if Brady retires to early and Giselle resents him from it too.

This isnt backed up by anything weve seen publicly.

If they want a balanced relationship there´s better fish in the sea, Tom Brady is like one of the big high class Pro Athletes out there, it´ll be hard even for a successful model to build a equal relationship with a guy like that, whose entire career is basically: "Sacrifice for Football", Giselle will always come 2nd and be described on the news as: "The Wife of Tom Brady".

It shouldnt be too much to ask a man to be a present father and husband.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Lol, here I´m going to have to give the same argument I give to Brexitards to make it better understood, here it goes listen well: "When you leave from a partnership from a deal you sign, you go back to where you were previously before you signed that", Now I know in divorce there´s a lot of BS like Divorce rapi** husbands out of their money, but even if Giselle had a ton of Tom Brady´s money she still would be forced to settle for high middle class or below after the divorce, no high class man will take her after a divorce like that, especially if she has kids, too much baggage and they are already rich, so yeah she wants another man in her life she´ll have to settle big time, no 0,00000001% Unicorn man coming from fantasyland for her.

Tell that to his coach telling him to "sacrifice for football", people here thinking the man actually likes sacrificing for his career, but let me tell you this, if Giselle was that good of a woman, he would´ve already retired, if he wants to keep playing is because he´d rather sacrifice more of his body than being with his wife having bedroom fun and with his children, so spare me the Bull, something clearly is wrong in the relationship, if the dude isnt retiring is because he realized maybe Giselle could pull a Kim Kardashian and divorce him at his lowest point, so he said F it, and went back to football so she has to divorce at high point of his career so he isnt completely destroyed.

He´s already rich more money doesnt change anything, so if he´s going back to the field his wife done goofed.

[–]EviessVeralan 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Lol, here I´m going to have to give the same argument I give to Brexitards to make it better understood, here it goes listen well: "When you leave from a partnership from a deal you sign, you go back to where you were previously before you signed that", Now I know in divorce there´s a lot of BS like Divorce rapi** husbands out of their money, but even if Giselle had a ton of Tom Brady´s money she still would be forced to settle for high middle class or below after the divorce, no high class man will take her after a divorce like that, especially if she has kids, too much baggage and they are already rich, so yeah she wants another man in her life she´ll have to settle big time, no 0,00000001% Unicorn man coming from fantasyland for her.

Whether or not she's going to land another football player is irrelevant to the fact that Brady brought this on himself due to his decisions.

Tell that to his coach telling him to "sacrifice for football", people here thinking the man actually likes sacrificing for his career,

Men arent hapless morons who are incapable of understanding that actions have consequences.

but let me tell you this, if Giselle was that good of a woman, he would´ve already retired, if he wants to keep playing is because he´d rather sacrifice more of his body than being with his wife having bedroom fun and with his children, so spare me the Bull,

Women arent responsible for mens bad decisions and your attempt to shift away the man's responsibility for his own choices is a massive reach. Besides even if Giselle was the worst wife imaginable this still doesn't justify not being there for your children.

If a story came out about a woman neglecting her husband, would you be trying this same level of mental gymnastics to justify it?

He´s already rich more money doesnt change anything, so if he´s going back to the field his wife done goofed.

She made almost twice as much as him so the money doesn't really mean anything does it?

The reality is that a successful marriage requires more than just money and the fact that so many RP guys fail to realize this shines a light on why women initiate divorce in higher numbers.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

She may or not land another football player lower than Tom Brady, she just aint getting another one on the same level as Tom Brady or better if any at all (she can easily find cope partners in middle class territory, but thats all they´ll ever be)

I´m saying this to help Women with Hypergamy problems in particular trying to chase the dragon of a better partner is a good way to end up broke, miserable and alone, I wouldnt advise it.

LMAO Tom Brady sacrificed for Football so many decades of his life now? OFC he wont expect his wife to divorce him over something he has been doing for a long long time, if he understood and taken some red pills he wouldnt even be married.

It´s not mental gymnastics, Giselle came to Tom Brady AFTER he established his Sacrifice for football in his career not before, she aint some childhood love interest and she clearly expected Tom Brady to change after the relationship.

Thats not how Love works, Tom Brady is expected to perform not in bed to Giselle first but second, first he has to perform in the stadium thats why he´s paid so much money in the firstplace.

Unlike rich dudes through nepotism Tom Brady had to earn it up on the field at the expense of his body, if he wants to do more and is in no risk of dying let him! Dont try to control him like he´s some kind of puppet with strings attached, let him make his own choices and suffer the consequences of their actions.

Giselle´s dumping a high value man, over something middle and poor people wouldnt throw their love partners away for and it´s sickening, it reeks of: "Extra Money" needing to be spent somewhere nasty, same old same old with high class, reeks of entitlement from beginning to finish.

[–]EviessVeralan 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

It´s not mental gymnastics, Giselle came to Tom Brady AFTER he established his Sacrifice for football in his career not before, she aint some childhood love interest and she clearly expected Tom Brady to change after the relationship.

This might have to do with the fact that he literally made vows on their wedding day to work to keep the marriage going and didnt follow through.

Thats not how Love works, Tom Brady is expected to perform not in bed to Giselle first but second, first he has to perform in the stadium thats why he´s paid so much money in the firstplace.

Within a marriage theres an expectation on both ends to work to make sure the marriage continues. The man cant just ditch her for work all the time and expect the marriage to magically hold itself together.

Unlike rich dudes through nepotism Tom Brady had to earn it up on the field at the expense of his body, if he wants to do more and is in no risk of dying let him! Dont try to control him like he´s some kind of puppet with strings attached, let him make his own choices and suffer the consequences of their actions.

So you believe the fact that he likes football means he should be able to neglect his family? If he wanted his entire life to revolve around football he shouldnt have gotten married and had kids since both are responsibilities that actually require effort.

Giselle´s dumping a high value man, over something middle and poor people wouldnt throw their love partners away for

Poor and middle class women also divorce neglectful husbands.

and it´s sickening, it reeks of: "Extra Money" needing to be spent somewhere nasty, same old same old with high class, reeks of entitlement from beginning to finish.

Would you consider it sickening if a woman after having their kid completely neglected the husband (sexually and emotionally)? Would you talk about how entitled the husband was if he divorced her?

Honestly the fact that you believe that mens actions having consequences is "sickening" is astounding.

[–]sebasTLCQG 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

He´s a high value man, if he cant do his work well with her nagging around, then she was always the problem and he didnt do a good vetting, it´s always the same BS with these superstars, train a lot on the field but have squat 0 knowledge about Women and end up in this situations, they always go for the Hot Trophy wife thats a Model, instead of actually picking a good partner and end up like this, you may be mistaken in who I blame, in some areas Giselle has the blame in other Tom Brady.

A middle class man wouldnt put up with this crap, when providing, Giselle would´ve to be the sole provider of the family to get the kind of thing she wants, she had no business marrying Tom Brady.

I agree he made a stupid mistake, this is why DiCaprio doesnt get married.

Bullcrap, they do divorce but not over Bull like this, it reeks of entitlement.

So women´s actions dont have consequences now? Didnt giselle knew what she was signing up for when she married Tom Brady? He has contracts to uphold, it aint the same thing as being a model, nowhere near close! If their careers were that different they shouldnt even have gotten married.

But it´s this: "Oh they are both rich so it´ll work out", cope nonsense, no just because you marry in the same class, it doesnt mean it´ll work out, Brady and Giselle clearly would´ve done fine by settling with a partner of a lower class, where they can flex their higher status in the relationship all they want with no barking, case this is what it looks like, divorcing Brady now, is stupid, the right decision would´ve been to divorce years ago if it wasnt going to work out, why you dont get that is beyond me.

Most high class people dont do good in Equal foot relationships, because they are used to get their way in life, they like to pretend in social media that they do and that the pressures they face are the same, but we all know thats a lot of fakery at best, like Kardashian divorcing Kanye at his worst.

[–]monaen 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Celebrity lifestyle is not real. Stop using celeb news to view your life.

[–]monaen 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And this is one of the biggest flaws of the redpill. Who cares about what happens to Tom Brady? And how does that affect the relationship I'll have with a woman in real life?

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