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is it just me or do men these days rate smv by perceived easiness rather than beauty?

October 13, 2022
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There was someone that argued with me that an average SEA or east asian girls had more smv than an average slim white girl due to her exoticness, from my own experience, it's true asian have higher smv than black girls or indian girls but outside of that, it's a turbo-cope unless you're talking to weebs or bisexual femboy lover guys(i guess asian girls do resemble femboys? I honestly dunno why but it's a connection i noticed.)

Before the age of feminism, blonde girls had the absolute highest smv without it ever being argued and asian women were thought of as ''looking like little boys' ' by some, so i honestly don't think it's their inherent looks, but men having gotten so weak that they would rather settle for their second choice rather than the first, i have even experienced this myself as an ugly girl, no one approached me irl but some guys on internet pointed out that i was unnattractive but they would still fuck me (because they mistaked whatever i said as being horny)

Men are truly weak and lack willpower now.

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Title is it just me or do men these days rate smv by perceived easiness rather than beauty?
Author kokorwqac
Upvotes 1
Comments 39
Date October 13, 2022 7:19 AM UTC (1 month ago)
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[–]SmoOoothModerator 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Rating SMV by only looks is not how it’s supposed to be rated lol.

You don’t understand SMV if you think “perceived easiness” isn’t an included metric.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The guy i was arguing with said ''threatened because of them being perceived more attractive' ' which again, i think is bs unless you're talking to weebs or femboy liking guys.

[–]SmoOoothModerator 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think many men in the US find them more attractive because of the same reason they say Eastern European women are more attractive - lower obesity rates - that’s it.

You projecting your own subjective feelings is a dumb counterpoint.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True, but you could say american men are also fatter and that europe has more small framed and slim white girls i specified '' slim white girls' ' for a reason

[–]EnteFetz 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because you are a woman you might not be able to understand this, but I am more turned on by girls that I think are in realistic reach for me than by girls that are out of reach for me.

Sometimes I see a stunning model on the street, but I know that she will never give me any attention, so I don't even bother looking at her, but when I see a girl that looks more approachable or a girl that is giving me attention then that is much more interesting for me.

I know that I don't have any chance with 90% of the women I see on the street and I have to focus on the women that I can have a chance with. I get turned on by girls that have inperfections, because that makes them more realistic, while looking at super hot models does not really turn me on, because I know I will never have a chance with a woman like her. The thought of not having a chance with a girl is such a turnoff that I prefer to look at girls that are chubby, or look nerdy or shy or have face shapes that are just outside the norm but still pleasant to look at.

So I am much more interested in 6 or 7 girls than 8 to 10 girls and a 4 which is really friendly and flirty with me will turn me on much more than a 9 who does not want to talk to me.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i just wish guys would be more honest with this instead of claiming that asian girls are more ''trad'' (cope) or thought of as more ''beautiful'' than white girls (cope unless you're a weeb or bisexual)

or any kind of mid girl secretly being beautiful really.

i'm not even suggesting that there's an obhjective metric of beauty, but it's easy to observe what features are rated as 8 vs 5 in society.

[–]gastongang 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

asian women are more popular due to anime, blonde women used to be more popular due to western beauty standards

[–]kokorwqac[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Again ''among weebs' ' not an actual beauty standard.

This is like me saying asian men are more popular due to anime and kpop being popular among women ,you know that's not how it works

[–]SilentFroggy 4 points5 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

If they were easy to get, then their smv is not that high. But if they were hard to get, it doesn’t mean they have a high smv neither.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 1 point2 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

I'm saying their high smv comes from perceived easiness, rather than looks (well looks affect the light skin part)

[–]SilentFroggy 3 points4 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you’re kinda right. Men do find it attractive when women give them attention. White guys can be into Asian girls because a fair percentage of Asian women worship white men.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 3 points4 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

I think they have higher smv than black girls but it being higher than white girls or them being ''trad and submissive' ' is cope

[–]SilentFroggy 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

It’s usually just common in white men though. Most men in the world would agree that white and latinas are the most attractive.

[–]Liberated_Asexual 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

White women are much more likely to age poorly and be significantly overweight relative to Asian women. You sound very jealous and envious throughout this entire thread.

cc: /u/SilentFroggy

[–]SlowHelicopter7619 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can tell you're a bitter Moabite or Ammonite (so-called Oriental) man incel that's pretending to be a woman. That's bad for y'all Moabite and Ammonite men huh? Moabite and Ammonite women are just seen as easy and don't have a high SMV at all and "black" is a crayon color not an identity.

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Statistically, Middle Eastern women have the highest SMV and then Asian women are second.

https://www.girlsaskguys.com/dating/q2173254-okcupid-misled-people-middle-eastern-women-are-most-desired-women

[–]kokorwqac[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

>okcupid

opinion discarded

this was made at a time where dating apps weren't popular, i also wouldn't say middle eastern women would respond to white men the most considering muslims usually don't even date non-muslims and arab men/white woman pairing is way more common than the reverse

[–]Liberated_Asexual 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There are Chaladean women who date white.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

european stats show the reverse is much more common overall with middle easterners

so again, dating apps, especially in 2008 where they weren't even popular don't mean much

[–]Liberated_Asexual 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Hmm, why don't you look up online dating race statistics and see for yourself?

I know this is going off of stereotypes too, but the 10/10 blonde girl is likely going to be a massive cunt relative to a 9/10 Asian girl — which makes the Asian girl far more appealing.

Men as a whole care a lot less about race than women do. If you're hot, you're hot — we don't put race on nearly as much of a pedestal as women do.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

''Hmm, why don't you look up online dating race statistics and see for yourself?''

because dating apps is a meme, any girl that's not overweight gets matches, heck, just a feminine name alone does.

but for your pleasure, the newest research in 2021 that focused on women in their 20'S showed that most white guys preferred white women, it's moreso that asian girls preferred white men than the reverse, go look it up.

''I know this is going off of stereotypes too, but the 10/10 blonde girl is likely going to be a massive cunt relative to a 9/10 Asian girl — which makes the Asian girl far more appealing.''

again, confirms my bias of ''men date them because they have lower standards'' before the age of feminism, asian women weren't liked as much, which means it's not their looks nor biology.

''Men as a whole care a lot less about race than women do. If you're hot, you're hot — we don't put race on nearly as much of a pedestal as women do.''

why don't men go after black or indian or mexican women then? they only really go after east asian women because they have lighter skin and are perceived as ''easy slay'' (literally what the dudes tell to me, as racist as this sounds)

[–]Liberated_Asexual 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

but for your pleasure, the newest research in 2021 that focused on women in their 20'S showed that most white guys preferred white women, it's moreso that asian girls preferred white men than the reverse, go look it up.

Being desired is very important to men. Women who do a better job of communicating that are going to get better reception than women who don't.

again, confirms my bias of ''men date them because they have lower standards'' before the age of feminism, asian women weren't liked as much, which means it's not their looks nor biology.

Or maybe we live in a far more multicultural world than we did in the 1920s/1950s depending on how you define when feminism started. I can't speak for other men, but once a woman is at a certain threshold of attractiveness — any marginal gains in physical aesthetics is far less important than personality and general intelligence — I'd reckon most men will agree with me at least on the personality portion.

why don't men go after black or indian or mexican women then? they only really go after east asian women because they have lighter skin and are perceived as ''easy slay'' (literally what the dudes tell to me, as racist as this sounds)

Um, they do? Plenty of white guys are into Latinas. I think almost half of East Indian American women get married to white guys, and that number is probably even higher now.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

''Being desired is very important to men. Women who do a better job of communicating that are going to get better reception than women who don't.''

but the actual data shows that white girls still have the most SMV in 2021, it's just that asian women have lower standards due to self-hatred or status seeking. (though said study also said east asian guys had higher smv than black guys which i find somewhat hard to believe in us, even though kpop and anime increased east asian guy smv a little bit i don't think it did to that extent, so maybe this study is also wrong)

''Or maybe we live in a far more multicultural world than we did in the 1920s/1950s depending on how you define when feminism started. I can't speak for other men, but once a woman is at a certain threshold of attractiveness — any marginal gains in physical aesthetics is far less important than personality and general intelligence — I'd reckon most men will agree with me at least on the personality portion.''

the guy tried me to argue about their looks being more attractive on average, even though he was coping, and said that asian women were less ''discriminating to him'' i wouldn't have a problem with this if men honestly just admitted that asian women had lower standards rather than saying they fit the beauty standards than white women because that's clearly false when you actually look at what's considered conventionally attractive.

''Um, they do? Plenty of white guys are into Latinas. I think almost half of East Indian American women get married to white guys, and that number is probably even higher now.''

a lot of latinas are white passing in the first place, and even if they aren't, white girls with latino guys is a pretty common pairing too(most common ir with white girls actually) so it doesn't mean much, indian girls marrying white guys was actually a rarer pairing than the reverse, which says a lot when you consider indian/south asian is the group white women are attracted to the LEAST

black women are also called ugly and masculine a lot by those same guys, at least girls just reject a guy without bullying them even if they rejected him because of his race.

actually literally east asian is the only race where the girls marry out more than the guys, nothing else statistically.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ok - first of all let's state that you've actually confessed to attempting to troll people on this sub a number of times. This thread is likely another one of those times.

I will, however, answer your question: Yes, and they always have. Attractiveness (SMV) is more than beauty.

From a man's perspective, one of the most sexually attractive things a woman can do is want to have sex with him. Or at least give that impression.

The trick is in not making it look like you want to have sex with every male in a 5 mile radius. The man will still fuck you, but you'll be radioactive as girlfriend material.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

i just wish more men would be honest about this when you tell them some mid girl they like isn't pretty.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you want them to be honest about?

She might not be a looker, but she might be able to suck a golf ball through a garden hose.

She might be a bit chubby, but have enormous tits.

etc.

The fact that "some girl" is "mid" is only part of the calculus.

[–]Play_MutedDark Red Pill 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

i have even experienced this myself as an ugly girl, no one approached me irl but some guys on internet pointed out that i was unnattractive but they would still fuck me (because they mistaked whatever i said as being horny)

lol

[–]RedditsOlderBrah -1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

what's funny?

[–]Play_MutedDark Red Pill 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]RedditsOlderBrah 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

yeah you're right. if your life has led you to finding misogyny and sexual harassment funny you don't really need additional shaming. my bad.

[–]Play_MutedDark Red Pill 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]RedditsOlderBrah 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

some men fetishise a small person putting a rod down their dick hole. a 3ft tall person with a rod to place in a dick hole has the highest SMV to those men.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Indians are technically shorter than chinese and koreans on avg, not fetishized as much or being compared to white girls by coping weebs

[–]RedditsOlderBrah 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

some men fetishise having someone shit on their chest. to them, anyone who will shit on their chest has the highest smv

[–]BlackPillPusher 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

Another absolutely moronic take from the resident basement dweller femcel weeb, I'm not gonna address most of your points because they honestly make not a lick of sense, I just have one question, how old are you as to presume the desire of every single man on the planet before "the age of feminism"?

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy Link

beauty standards, concubines, historical texts.

no man or woman has the absolute same desires, but you can make generaliations.

[–]BlackPillPusher 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

Present them please because you're objectively wrong.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

objectively wrong on what? do you also watch JAV?

[–]BlackPillPusher 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

The historical evidence you speak of that proves men were mostly attracted to blond white women 70 years ago, also no of course not I got much better ways to spend my time, such as hitting the gym for example.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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