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It's women that can't deal with the reality of dating, not men.

September 14, 2022
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We always hear about angry men that may get violent, even the red pill has documented the "red pill rage" stage, then you hear about extreme cases of violence from incels. While all true a much bigger side we don't hear about is that it's mostly women that can't deal with the reality of dating.

Men learn real quick where they stand and what needs to be done to improve their dating prospects, but women never seem to get a clue.

I constantly see women everywhere claiming that "real men" don't care about a woman's past. If a man tells them that men don't want a woman with a past, instead of taking his advice they will attempt to shame him. "Well you're just inscure". Even if everyman tells them they'll just cover their ears and claim that nobody is a "real man". Meanwhile they'll just continue the self destructive behavior which will hurt their chances of getting the type of men they want.

Another big one I see is women deny the reality of the wall. All men are practically in agreement that women lose value over time, yet women just refuse to accept that. Men everywhere are practically in agreement about the change in the balance of power overtime, yet women keep trying to deny it. They will ignore the warnings and just call everyone a "misogynist" for saying that. They just don't seem to be able to fathom a time might come where they won't have the SMV advantage anymore.

Men understand the concept of "leagues" in dating, yet women do not for the most part. Men know that if they want a super model that they need to qualify for her. Yet women all seem to think that they can get the best men out there regardless of what they bring to the table. I constantly see women thinking they can get men to commit that are clearly out of their league. Then they get upset if they get pumped and dumped, but all the men around knew it was coming. I'm now seeing women staying single and lonely because they are hoping to get a type of man that they just can't.

In fact we have seen women everywhere up in arms when a man told a woman that she was "average at best" and that she didn't qualify for the men she thinks she does. Women everywhere were trying to cancel said individual and would rather the woman live in a fantasy world at the cost of losing opportunities with men that she actually can get.

Another big development is The Red Pill. The truth is that TRP is big and its influence affects the actions of millions of men today. I see men everywhere refusing to be a beta bucks, refusing to settle for post wall women, and refusing to be with single moms.

Yet women seem to be ignoring this major development and are instead doubling down on self destructive behaviors. Instead of course correcting they still expect men to wait around until they need saving. They still are becoming single moms. I'm watching many of these women blow their best chances and are surprised when things don't go as they hoped. They are truly surprised when the warnings were everywhere.

P.S. Nothing I said is to hate on ladies. I'm just pointing out some observations I've made. I am now in my mid 30's, have been following TRP and PUA since the beginning. I just am in a place where I've things come full circle.

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Title It's women that can't deal with the reality of dating, not men.
Author MAGA-Latino
Upvotes 21
Comments 56
Date September 14, 2022 12:43 PM UTC (2 months ago)
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[–]kokorwqac 13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

women are aware older women are uglier

but so are older men

[–]Kappador66 9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, the men hit the wall also. Something red pillers refuse to acknowledge.

"Men peak later in life"

--Loses hair

"Surprised Pikachu"

[–]carpetfoodie 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hair is life

[–]BoxxyFoxxy 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. They get beer guts, lose hair and strength and get those big red old dude faces (if they’re white).

They can only hope to attract gold diggers, and that’s only IF they have money. Not many older men do.

[–]BitsAndBobs304 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

other older women

[–]EviessVeralan 7 points8 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Men learn real quick where they stand and what needs to be done to improve their dating prospects,

This is false. Men in the west routinely do things that hurt their chances due to either lack of info or due to investment in some kind of ideology. Red pill men are notorious for this.

A great example of this is the amount of men who are surprised that they dont get matches on dating apps despite tons of data showing men outnumber women. There are entire online communities of men dedicated to deliberately playing the dating game on the hardest mode possible then blaming women for their bad decisions.

Theres also the delusion that men age like wine. In reality they dont. You could look up any older attractive male celebrity and they will always look better when they were younger. Women are just more likely to overlook a mans deteriorating looks if he has other redeeming values.

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are just more likely to overlook a mans deteriorating looks if he has other redeeming values.

She might overlook his physical looks if he's a provider and treats her well but she'll never have genuine desire or love for him because deep down she knows she settled for him. This is how dead bedrooms are created.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Men in the west routinely do things that hurt their chances due to either lack of info or due to investment in some kind of ideology. Red pill men are notorious for this.

And what is that? Maybe men that still take apps seriously are just stupid. But the world isn't just apps. I have never used those things seriously.

And how does TRP hurt men? It teaches us how dating works so we can figure out which way to do it best.

You could look up any older attractive male celebrity

Yes let's look at celebrities. Look at actors from the 90's. The men are still working while the women have aged out.

[–]EviessVeralan 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

And what is that?

I just listed dating apps as one of the bigger things but to name another

Men set themselves up for the friend zone by befriending a girl they have interest in and waiting too long to say anything.

And how does TRP hurt men? It teaches us how dating works so we can figure out which way to do it best.

I never said that TRP hurts men. I just said theres a lot of delusion in Red Pill circles.

Yes let's look at celebrities. Look at actors from the 90's. The men are still working while the women have aged out

I was talking about physical appearance not merely working. In terms of physical appearance men will always look better during the ages of early 20s to late 30s. And as much as some RP guys will point to older celebrities who married or dated younger women, the women arent dating the older men because they think theyre hotter then they were when they were young, they're overlooking the age due to money or status.

Women dont age out of merely being an actress they just take on different kinds of roles.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Men set themselves up for the friend zone by befriending a girl they have interest in and waiting too long to say anything.

Do guys still do that? Do you still see it? I know we used to but I thought enough guys have been warned about that by now.

[–]EviessVeralan 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes some still do.

[–]NelsonManswella 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

this is definitely me 🙃

going in while immediately showing my hand just ends up with rejection 98% of the time so i try to play the familiarity game which also doesn’t work

[–]kokorwqac 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

''Yes let's look at celebrities. Look at actors from the 90's. The men are still working while the women have aged out.''

the only actors relevant from hollywood to women under age 25 are tom holland and timothee chalamet, they much prefer looking at tiktok e boys or even kpoppers. hollywood mainly has men in charge, of course they like younger women and older men dynamic, duh.

people in 90's didn't have much other than hollywood to follow, however social media rising to the extent it does means it's losing it's dominancy little by little.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

OK good point

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 8 points9 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

You are right.

I feel weird when men says oh women have all options,still can get sex easily.I am like "just wait for it,you guys at least works for improvement and can age better".

In beauty sub,when women ask for tips, everyone reply she is beautiful,need no surgery.When they don't say this, women get offended. Man,they just keep following bad tips.I always get angry when woman says she gets breakout while in fact she was wearing makeup, exfoliating every damn day even in product it is mentioned don't use every day. While in case of men,even with brutal review,they still ask for explaination , accept it and try to improve.But I get it why as beauty is our asset even I get trouble accepting that we are beauty objects and useless creatures lol

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I think females just get so used to having the power and the options that they can't even imagine a situation where that might change.

I recently spoke to an ex girlfriend. She was hot a few years ago but now she's alone and she doesn't understand what happened.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

It is not even about power.It is just getting old sucks.Thats why.

Changes women goes through with age are really disgusting.My mom said accept it or die young

[–]kokorwqac 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

i feel like old men are also ugly though

[–]smallstarseeker 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The ones which lose the most are the ones which had everything handed to them on the plater due to their looks.

The ones which weren't chased because of their looks, don't lose shit once their looks fade away.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes they are maybe but still better looking than women their age.

[–]litgas 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ya because its totally about her looks. 🙄

[–]ThatGamer707 6 points7 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Ehh looks matter but women are more than just their looks and definitely not useless. There is more to life than a relationship.

Some qualities might not impact your relationships prospects much, but they can help your life in so many other ways and help you feel fulfilled.

Also, looks will help you get a guy, but it will take more than that to keep him. Same with guys that are good looking. Looks matter but are not everything.

[–]NotARussianBot1984 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ehh looks matter but women are more than just their looks and definitely not useless. There is more to life than a relationship.

If a girl refuses to date you when she's young, only to hit you up after she's older, ya she's saying that looks matter the most.

It's happened to me many times, it's hard not to laugh at them since when I'm rejected, that's it, I won't ever date them.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 -1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Uh...this is so blue pill thing to tell to women.This is only true for men

[–]ThatGamer707 3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

So, you think as a woman all that matters in life are your looks? Or are you strictly speaking from a relationship/dating perspective?

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 -1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

So, you think as a woman all that matters in life are your looks?

Looks , men and her fertility are all that matters.Rest are useless

Or are you strictly speaking from a relationship/dating perspective?

Yes and no but still I believe woman should not get into lie being told to them about how looks aren't everything.In dating or relationship,just be cute,don't annoy him and treat him like king are the only things that works.They don't need to develop personality or whatever as it is not women' assets

[–]BitsAndBobs304 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What? Women are people, not beauty objects and not useless. And looks are #1 criteria for dating for both genders despite what propaganda says. Men dream of finding love and care too.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whatever you says.Only low value man would say this.

For man,just be hygienic,gym, take good care of face and Money works which you can develop with age.

Youth is woman's asset,looks and fertility are valuable which decrease with time.Thats why women are depreciated assets and not so useful creature.Even my dad didn't like what mom changes when she became 30 and postpartum body but she gave him kids and married young and raised them so that's why he keeps her.Mom didn't care about dad's looks fading.

Men are focused on finding partner for family or companion not some romance or love shit

[–]SilentFroggy 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sorry but there’s still a ton of betas out there who will take care of post wall women.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You have to be really low status to want a post wall woman and not even able to get one.

[–]SilentFroggy 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t know what you mean by your answer. What I was saying is these post wall women still have options. While us men who try avoid being a beta will still have a harder time.

[–]BitsAndBobs304 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When a woman asks for help and posts her dating profile, they tell her she just need to find better people. At best, better photos. When a man posts his profile and asks for help, they UTTERLY DESTROY every single tiny particle of him.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL both genders have a hard time dealing with the reality of dating.

[–]deznue 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women always doing mental gymnastics to justify their bad behavior in hope to be forgiven and given a chance to be a mother and have a loving husband when she reaches age of 35+ 😆

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Except the men that she needs to do that have taken TRP.

[–]brightglowup1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Another very obvious example as to how misogynists are mental midgets.

  • what you see online is not the totality of the feedback women get. Anyone with even minor exposure to the FSM understands why women support each other so much as opposed to using the abusive hateful language the "logical gender" does. Men consider their abusive language and behavior a point of pride while complaining about their high suicide rates. Meanwhile women get pinkpilled in private and we, as a standard, hear much harsher shit than men do. Even in this moronic thread is the rhetoric of our lessers reinforcing the message that we have no value beyond being something to fuck yet men who cant pull bitches are here thinking they are more based. What a meme

Female pragmatism and "coldness" is a common complaint but we have to survive ignorant males. We dont have time to be this dumb.

  • Women are groomed by all levels of society to cater to the desires of men. If anything, it takes a lot of work to unlearn. Meanwhile the "logical gender" considers telling each other to bathe revolutionary. You could never handle the amount of negative feedback the average woman recieves. You think millions of female strangers decided to compliment and nurture each other just cuz? This is why women have a body positive movement so many men are so jealous of.

  • The misogynistic take as to how women degrade in value as HUMAN BEINGS once beauty and fertility fades is a pink pill and why no one gives af about men. You people blame feminism for young women listening to unattractive, pointless men dehumanize them and choosing alternatives.

There is nothing more laughable than watching men of today with none of the leverage their fathers and grandfathers have continue to exist in the most hateful manners while circlejerking about how these 2nd class citizens called women keep wommening wrong

In reality women are evolving and to many males are not only left behind, the stupidest ones are doubling down and think their method of being POS individuals will resolve their dry dick crises

I love to see it. 🥰

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And what exactly are women being told in private? Because I don't see women making any better decisions.

The misogynistic take as to how women degrade in value as HUMAN BEINGS once beauty and fertility fades is a pink pill and why no one gives af about men.

This is just laughable to hear all day and proves my point exactly. Women demand things from men like he must be tall, have money, etc. But when men say that we demand something in return it's misogynistic.

In reality women are evolving and to many males are not only left behind

Yeah women are evolving to marry the government.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I see more and more women coming out against the feminist narrative and promoting marriage and family as a precursor to career.

I think the narrative is shifting as millennia women started crossing over the age of 40. They are become disenchanted by what feminism promised them. They were promise to have it all. Husband, family, career. But they find themselves alone and working a job they hate. The honest ones are starting to sound the alarm to younger women not to fall for the same trap they've fell for.

I've always give the advice to any women who's wise enough to listen, to really consider starting their family earlier rather than later. Life's not the same once you past 40. You can rationalize that you don't want kids now when you're young and full of energy, but nothing is more depressing than being 60 with nothing to look forward to.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah even worse to see people old and sick with no family to take care of them.

[–]BitsAndBobs304 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not all men have a work and hobbies where they can meet single women , so apps is what they have left

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

That's the thing about life. If it's important to you, you will make time for it.

[–]BitsAndBobs304 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Time has nothing to do with it. It would be unwise to leave your job to pursue a job where you meet women. Same goes for hobbies.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Time has everything to do with it.

Here's a few things to consider. Let me know if you think any of this is untrue.

1) You have freewill and you have the power to make decisions in life.

2) Your decisions in life will have benefits/consequences, regardless if you intend them to happen or not.

3) The accumulation of your decisions in life will result in the final analysis of your life.

In consideration of all of these 3 points, I'm not dismissing getting cancer or getting hit by lightning. There are random elements in life and even malevolent elements. But lets keep it in the confines of what we can control in life to make the explanation more simple.

Time is the extension of your lifespan on this planet. What you choose to do with your time is up to you. If you've made the proposition that your career is more important than finding a spouse, then by all means, pursue your career. But don't act like you didn't make the decision not to pursue a spouse.

There's trade off with every decision you make. And each decision you make will have an aim. A focal point. It's a powerful thing to focus at a single point. The likelihood of you achieving your goal will increase if you aim at it. But lets be honest. When you pursue a goal, what you do unintentionally or intentionally is leave out everything else. That's the nature of choosing things to pursue. Everything else that's not beneficial to your pursuit becomes an obstacle.

Now here's something to consider. When you 80 years old, and you've had a very successful career. You made $100,000,000 dollars. But you have no kids or spouse. Will you be satisfied with your life as a whole? Will you say to yourself, all things consider, this is the best life I could have lived. And if the answer is yes, then good for you. I'm happy for you. But if your answer is no. Then maybe you ought to consider what's important in life and make a new aim before you run out of time.

[–]Silver_Took32 0 points1 point  (25 children) | Copy Link

This is such a bizarre way to look at dating.

Is this actually how straight men approach dating? Where you have leagues and rate people and think that a woman having had sex before taints her somehow???

I am a gay man and this is very bizarre and feels rather predatory. You say “women lose value over time” as though woman are a priced commodity on the stock market. It is misogynistic and I feel awful for women who are trying to live their lives and deal with men who think like this.

If I am looking to date, I want someone I get along with, have shared interests, am attracted to, and who is sexually compatible. Most of the time, I am sleeping with friends where we aren’t romantically interested or compatible. It’s fine. We are all having fun.

[–]deznue 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For hooking up the standards always lower … it’s only when you want to start family when most girls are unqualified. It’s like going to a hot prostitute and asking her to marry you.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 1 point2 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

I guess you just live in a different world.

[–]Silver_Took32 4 points5 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

I am just saying, if you’re treating women like a degrading commodity, you cannot be shocked when they call you a misogynist and don’t want to fuck you. You’re literally treating them like a different species - and one you want to own and dominate until this particular one degrades in value to the point that you need to purchase a new one.

It’s not healthy, man.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy Link

You are just putting stuff on me that I didn't say.

[–]Silver_Took32 1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

You said: “all men are practically in agreement that women lose value over time”

That makes you a misogynist.

Do better.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"all men are practically in agreement that women lose value over time"

Speaking as a man I say that is utter horseshit. My wife got better with age, wouldn't trade her in for anyone ever. Lots of men feel like me, too.

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It’s not that different. It matches mine and my friends experiences.

Are you speaking from a place of experience or are you outside looking in?

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

He's gay and doesn't seem to understand what motivates straight men.

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You dodged my question

[–]RealNiceLady 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

When men sleep with women, they give them false hope of commitment. Never sleep with a woman that you would never commit to.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That sounds good but we all know men can't do that. I think a simpler thing would be to not pursue women that they don't want to commit to. Which is almost the same thing.

[–]FishTank34 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If women age like milk, men age like rotten fish

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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