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Japan ‘on the Verge’ of Societal Collapse Due to Plummeting Birth Rate

Antisocial_Nihilist
January 23, 2023
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/japan-verge-societal-collapse-due-172403243.html

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Title Japan ‘on the Verge’ of Societal Collapse Due to Plummeting Birth Rate
Author Antisocial_Nihilist
Upvotes 7
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Date January 23, 2023 11:20 PM UTC (2 months ago)
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Comments

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Go and make new bunch of laws against men. Special neighborhoods for women only, death sentence for men who dare to look at woman, firing people for not being omega enough. Japan hates men, that's fact. At least they can cope with anime/games.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude my mom is Japanese and I used to live there.

The whole situation over there is fucked. Japan at this point is a gendered apartheid state that despises men. Women get all kinds of free passes in Japanese society that men do not. They get:

  • Free access to clubs, while schmucks like you and me pay $50.
  • Preferential treatment in all areas of work and education.
  • Nearly twice as many scholarships available to women than there are for men.
  • There is an expectation that men always pay for anything and everything, or else you're a worthless bum.
  • More time off and sick days available to women.
  • Men in Japan commit suicide 2x the rate at which women do.
  • Segregated transportation, apparently all men are evil rapists and cannot be trusted to even be near women.

Teachers are 80%+ female until high school, many Japanese men are raised without a good male role model, no social support, no career path. While women get absolutely everything: infinite career and education opportunities, endless men willing to make them happy, total social harmony.

And Japan is wondering why so many men are killing themselves? They wonder why birth rates are going down the shitter? If they can't figure it out, then good riddance.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And they wonder why Herbivore men are the majority of young men in Japan.

[–]sebasTLCQG 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Japan has become so bad and toxic, you dont even need to look at statistics or real life data, just look at the anime/manga and doujinshis being produced nowadays to see whats wrong with japanese society.

[–]upalseBogPill 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Point is, you don't really need any of this to ruin your demographics. All you need to do is remove expectation of women having a family and bam. It's like magic, no matter which culture.

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. "Here is future, no more archaic human oppressing rules. Women can do anything. Men - keep following rules."

Kekful flair.

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Holy shit lol you are writing fan fiction to make yourself mad

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm just prophet.

[–]nothatyoucare 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just immigrate. The largest population of Japanese outside of Japan is in Brazil. Can you imagine a half Japanese/half Brazilian waifu?

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Damn.

What actually led to low birth rate?

Is is work culture or woman hypergamy (which I don't think so,I mean whole country is affected or is it something else?

[–]NotARussianBot1984 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Their debt bubble popped in 1990. USA popped in 2008.

Our fertility is falling, we just allow immigrants in that have higher birth rates funded from lower living standards

[–]upalseBogPill 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

This started in the early 80s. When women were given opportunity to opt out, they for the most part did so, which broke the whole sararyman deal in turn. Ubertrad cultures tend to hit the wall hard, as opposed to slow transition. Similar "unexpected" thing happened in Saudi Arabia.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

women were given opportunity to opt out

Opt out for what?

[–]upalseBogPill 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

SAHM.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

What do you think what should have happened?

[–]upalseBogPill 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

What could've been done? The genie is out, in any society with sufficient development that has to compete on global market, they can't chain their women to a kid in the kitchen. When they do so, they'll remain a 3rd world shithole.

The world as a society has decided we'll no longer do separation of production of services/goods and family between genders by a social decree. Now it's just production of services/goods by both genders.

But I'd not bother with any blame game here, this has been a collective decision long time coming, and it occurred a few times throughout history whenever societies grew sufficiently competitive.

This time we might have a shot with some sort of heavy automation I suppose.

Welcome to life, Irken child.

[–]zastale 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Automation still won’t solve the birth rate issue entirely, as women will refuse to fuck men on their level and below.

[–]PaliantBlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s more cyclical than you describe. Industrial countries get a small “economic” boost by putting women in the workforce. In the long term, this drives down population and creates rampant inflation (less young people = higher labor cost aka look at the USA rn) So while it seems like it benefits the country and economy to have women working full time. The holistic, long term ramifications are a net negative, economically.

[–]RocinanteCoffee 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mostly work culture.

You see the same thing happening in Korea and the US.

[–]LIGMAMALEINCBlackPill 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For some reason, Japan is often times touted as being a sort of premonition into the future of the west, often times citing their birthrate and incidence of suicides, etc. The reality of the situation is that the west is no different, and even worse on some of these metrics. Most western countries have equally abysmal fertility rates, if not worse (and once it's below replacement rate what's the difference anyway between who's slightly higher or lower on the chart), Japan's suicide rate is much overstated and actually better than many (western) European countries and certainly much better than the US, etc.
I think the only dystopian characteristic Japan has the west beat on is virginity. Half of all men are still virgins by the age of 30, but I'm sure the west will catch up to that in the next 10 years.

The point is, Japan is nothing special. We're equally fucked here in the west.

[–]TelephonicRugPeddler 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

Good, let all the ethnostates collapse

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Eww, cringe

[–]TelephonicRugPeddler 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

Yeah let’s literally collapse our society instead of letting “barbarians” in because we’re scared they’ll…collapse our society. 10/10 galaxy brain logic

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill Janitor 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It seems to me you are overvalueing society. A societal collapse wont be the end of the world for the island, nor for the japanese ethnicity. Life will go on, their genome and culture will still exist, and society will eventually be rebuilt. If you think this development will literally wipe out the japanese you are mislead.

But once you make the choice to import people from the third world, it can never be undone. Dont worship nations, theyre doomed to rise and fall, they all will. Nations are man-made, and such is the law of entropy. Nothing man-made will ever last.

[–]TelephonicRugPeddler 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah let’s screw over 3-5 generations of people and the economic power of the entire country for vague sense of a keeping the “genome” (lol) pure and the possibility that the birth rate may increase at some point after 100-150 years.

I will laugh in economic stability while their decisions to value their “racial purity” over a functional economy turns them into the third world.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill Janitor -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can laugh all you want. The Japanese will have the last laugh because they will still exist. While your people wont.

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

at least japanese aren't total cucks tbh, europeans literally give ''shitskin'' races(muslim,pajeet,black) less punishment for raping white girls or doing sexual/violent crime in general than what would be approitate because of ''muh racism''

[–]TelephonicRugPeddler 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

There’s a lot more data to imply that they are actually given harsher sentences than white people who commit the same crimes with similar arrest backgrounds.

You can’t pick data that you like (13/50) and ignore data that you don’t like (they are punished harsher).

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

i said europe, not america, black americans aren't even immigrants.

in europe, muslims are the bigger problem, you should be very careful to pick immigrants from such countries.

[–]TelephonicRugPeddler 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

It seems Europe gives laxer punishments in general than the US and always has - unless you have data that shows a) a somehow agreed upon baseline for what’s “appropriate” for XYZ crime (perhaps average punishments for crimes prior to immigration?) and b) data on how these punishments are distributed by race.

Otherwise, you’re just making things up.

Although I’d agree that importing millions of poor people from war-torn countries with distinct cultural and racial traits was an absolute terrible idea (probably for a different reason than you) I don’t think Japan will look to the Middle East but rather south-east Asia.

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

there are chinese and southeast asian immigrants in japan, as far as i know.

[–]TelephonicRugPeddler 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

There are but their numbers are limited so there’s little impact on the birth rate and it’s often temporary. Chinese have no incentive to go to Japan in large numbers anymore given their rise in living standard.

Japans first thought isn’t to import a bunch of displaced Syrians and Afghanis (and who even knows if they want to go to Japan). They would encourage Vietnamese, Filipinos, maybe Indonesians to come over and have some kids. Ideally the first two because nothing good comes from importing Muslims.

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

tbh japan's birth rate is acually kind of good considering it's on par with euro countries with higher amount of immigration.

euros and whites in general are cucks now, what can i say, that being said indonesians cause less problems than arabic ones.

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