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Ladies, let me explain why high body counts are bad for you, okay?

November 8, 2022
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It's simple, really. Women fuck Chad and get pumped and dumped and it really hurts and leaves lasting emotional scars, until finally at some point she gets mad and starts getting defensive. Like putting men through shit tests and even going full FDS. These women amass emotional baggage and every man she runs into will be asked to carry it.

Still reading, ladies? Because casual sex also damages men who fuck around a lot. They get jaded and start to see women as expendable. They're more likely to cheat and "pursue variety" even in LTRs. Men who fuck around can also encounter serious trauma, see Johnny Depp for instance. How many men encountered that and got mad and went MGTOW? Men also get Stacey widowed after fucking a hot babe and then getting ghosted.

LOL y'all thought high body counts only hurt women? Nah they hurt men, too! Gotcha! Say hi to the reality check!

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Title Ladies, let me explain why high body counts are bad for you, okay?
Author RatDontPanic
Upvotes 9
Comments 52
Date November 8, 2022 2:57 AM UTC (1 month ago)
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[–]SwimmingTheme3736 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Please don’t assume all women with high n count have been pumped and dumped

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The only thing a high n count proves is that you have shit judgement.

[–]SwimmingTheme3736 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

How does it mean you have shut judgement? Are women not allowed to enjoy sex?

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can enjoy whatever the fuck you want. Just as other people are entirely allowed to draw conclusions from it. A person who sleeps with that many people has impulse control issues and generally carries a fuck ton of baggage - neither men nor women want to deal with that shit.

[–]LiftSushiDallas 8 points9 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

There is an assumption in the first paragraph that the woman is getting dumped, rather than just having sex and moving on when the "relationship" ends (either after a night, a few weeks, a few months).

It could be that she sleeps with the man once, or they do a FBW situation and both fade out on each other.

So while it may not always be the case, or even the case the majority of the time, a woman could garner a higher body count without being the one getting dumped because she simply didn't want more from the men she chose to sleep with casually. Not all women who have sex with a man without commitment WANT or EXPECT commitment from that man.

[–]BlindMaestro 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Statistically speaking, a high number is a strong predictor of relationship dissatisfaction, instability and infidelity. It’s the second best predictor of future infidelity aside from a history of cheating.

Factors found to facilitate infidelity

Number of sex partners: Greater number of sex partners before marriage predicts infidelity

As might be expected, attitudes toward infidelity specifically, permissive attitudes toward sex more generally and a greater willingness to have casual sex and to engage in sex without closeness, commitment or love (i.e., a more unrestricted sociosexual orientation) are also reliably related to infidelity (pg.71)

Fincham, F. D., & May, R. W. (2017). Infidelity in romantic relationships. Current opinion in psychology, 13, 70–74.

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Men apparently assess and evaluate levels of sexual activity by a woman prior to long-term commitment—behavior that would have been observable or known through social reputation in the small-group lifestyles of our ancestors. Past behavior is a good predictor of future behavior, and having a large number of sex partners prior to marriage is a statistical predictor of infidelity after marriage (pg.92)

Buss, D. M., & Schmitt, D. P. (2019). Mate preferences and their behavioral manifestations. Annual Review of Psychology, 70, 77–110.

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the odds ratio of 1.13 for lifetime sexual partners obtained with the face-to-face mode of interview indicates that the probability of infidelity increased by 13% for every additional lifetime sexual partner (pg.150)

Whisman, M. A., & Snyder, D. K. (2007). Sexual infidelity in a national survey of American women: Differences in prevalence and correlates as a function of method of assessment. Journal of Family Psychology, 21(2), 147–154.

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promiscuity is in fact a good predictor of infidelity. Indeed, promiscuity among females accounted for almost twice as much variance in infidelity (r2 = .45) as it did for males (r2 = .25). (pg.177)

Hughes, S. M., & Gallup, G. G., Jr. (2003). Sex differences in morphological predictors of sexual behavior: Shoulder to hip and waist to hip ratios. Evolution and Human Behavior, 24(3), 173–178.

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Each additional sex partner between age 18 and the first union increased the net odds of infidelity by 1% (pg.56)

Treas, J., & Giesen, D. (2000). Sexual Infidelity Among Married and Cohabiting Americans. Journal of Marriage and Family, 62(1), 48–60.

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Sexual promiscuity was significantly positively correlated with emotional promiscuity [r(356) = .261, p < .001], as well with sexual infidelity [r(323) = .595, p < .001] and emotional infidelity [r(323) = .676, p < .001] (pg.390)

Pinto, R., & Arantes, J. (2017). The Relationship between Sexual and Emotional Promiscuity and Infidelity. Athens Journal of Social Sciences, 4(4), 385–398.

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A truism in psychology is that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. This is no less true in the realm of sexual behavior. Indeed, one of the strongest predictors of marital infidelity is one’s number of prior sex partners (pg.6)

Haselton, M. G., Buss, D. M., Oubaid, V., & Angleitner, A. (2005). Sex, Lies, and Strategic Interference: The Psychology of Deception Between the Sexes. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 31(1), 3–23.

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Regarding other sexual behaviors, we examined whether number of prior sex partners and viewing pornography predicted ESI. As has been found in prior research (Feldman & Cauffman, 1999; Treas & Giesen, 2000), having had more prior sex partners predicted future ESI (pg.12)

Maddox Shaw, A. M., Rhoades, G. K., Allen, E. S., Stanley, S. M., & Markman, H. J. (2013). Predictors of Extradyadic Sexual Involvement in Unmarried Opposite-Sex Relationships. Journal of Sex Research, 50(6), 598–610.

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When compared with their peers who report fewer partners, those who self-report 20 or more in their lifetime are:

  • Twice as likely to have ever been divorced (50 percent vs. 27 percent)

  • Three times as likely to have cheated while married

  • Substantially less happy with life (p < 0.05) (pg.88-89)

Regnerus M. (2017). Cheap sex : the transformation of men marriage and monogamy. Oxford University Press.

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women who had more experience with short-term relationships in the past (i.e., those with high Behavior facet scores) were more likely to have multiple sexual partners and unstable relationships in the future. The behaviorally expressed level of sociosexuality thus seems to be a fairly stable personal characteristic. (pg.1131)

Penke, L., & Asendorpf, J. B. (2008). Beyond global sociosexual orientations: a more differentiated look at sociosexuality and its effects on courtship and romantic relationships. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 95(5), 1113–1135.

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Generally speaking, respondents who report extensive premarital sexual experience report extensive extramarital activity. Measures of the locus of first intercourse and number of premarital partners show positive associations with (1) rating one's marriage as less happy than average, (2) the number of different extramarital partners, and (3) the intention to participate in mate-swapping activities. (pg.221-222)

Athanasiou, R., & Sarkin, R. (1974). Premarital sexual behavior and postmarital adjustment. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 3(3), 207–225.

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The findings from this study demonstrate that the number of sexual partners participants had was negatively associated with sexual quality, communication, and relationship stability, and for one age cohort relationship satisfaction, even when controlling for a wide range of variables including education, religiosity, and relationship length. (pg.715)

Busby, D. M., Willoughby, B. J., & Carroll, J. S. (2013). Sowing wild oats: Valuable experience or a field full of weeds? Personal Relationships, 20(4), 706–718.

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As predicted, such factors as sexual permissiveness, an avoidant romantic style, number of romantic relationships, and early onset of sexual intercourse were all correlated with a higher incidence of betrayal behaviors. These factors are likely to promote sexual activity with a larger number of partners, which, in turn, increases the chance that betrayal will occur. (pg.247)

Feldman, S. S., & Cauffman, E. (1999). Your cheatin' heart: Attitudes, behaviors, and correlates of sexual betrayal in late adolescents. Journal of Research on Adolescence, 9(3), 227–252.

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There was a strong association between number of sexual partners and having an STD: those women with 5 or more sexual partners were 8 times more likely to report having an STD than those with only 1 partner, even after adjusting for age at first intercourse

Joffe, G. P., Foxman, B., Schmidt, A. J., Farris, K. B., Carter, R. J., Neumann, S., Tolo, K. A., & Walters, A. M. (1992). Multiple partners and partner choice as risk factors for sexually transmitted disease among female college students. Sexually transmitted diseases, 19(5), 272–278.

An indicator of whether or not the respondent has had previous sex partners is included and identifies the number of male sex partners the woman had previous to her relationship with her current primary partner… A history of numerous sex partners indicates a pattern or habit of sexual behavior that we expect will negatively influence sexual exclusivity in the current relationship. (pg.37)

Having previous sexual partners greatly increased the likelihood that a woman would have a secondary sex partner. In particular, a woman with 4 or more male sex partners prior to her primary relationship was about 8.5 times more likely to have a secondary sex partnerthan a woman with no previous sex partners… Having previous sex partners also increased the likelihood that dating and married women would have secondary sex partners. In particular, married women with 4 or more previous partners were 20 times more likely to have secondary sex partners than married women with no previous sex partners (pg.41)

Forste, R., & Tanfer, K. (1996). Sexual exclusivity among dating, cohabiting, and married women. Journal of Marriage and the Family, 58(1), 33–47.

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As it relates to sexual history later in life, promiscuity is linked to a higher likelihood of cheating in long-term, serious relationships. Vrangalova thinks the reason may be that many promiscuous people aren't really built for monogamy.

Kubota, T. (2015, October 20). What the number of sexual partners says about you. Men's Journal.

[–]LiftSushiDallas 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not arguing in favor of promiscuity at all.

[–]SmarmyPapsmears 2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

This is just female hamster; by far the biggest majority of women can not separate sex from feelings.

And if they can, it doesn't make it better. Honestly it's even more ick inducing and makes them more masculine.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Separating sex from feelings is bad for men, too. It damages their ability to pair-bond.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Women find sexually promiscuous men as attractive

Men find sexually promiscuous women as unattractive

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Women find sexually promiscuous men as attractive

Not really. They have a term for guys like that, "Fuckbois" and it ain't a compliment.

[–]LiftSushiDallas 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Did you read the part of my comment when I said it was likely not the case the majority of the time?

[–]SmarmyPapsmears 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm stating it's a lose/lose.

Either A: you got pump and dumped by dudes out of your league a bunch of times

Or B: You can separate feelings and sex, which is still icky.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If a person has a high n count it's a fair bet that at least a portion of them were pump and dumps or one night stands.

[–]TryLambda 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Problem is with your statement is that after she’s ridden the c c and is post wall she demands and expect commitment from a high value male

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

But this is about women who have sex expecting commitment, only to get dumped. Not the women that you're talking about.

[–]LiftSushiDallas 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Your post indicated nothing of the sort. It just speculated about how women get high body counts.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah so you totally ignored the second paragraph. Got it.

[–]TryLambda 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Problem is with your statement is that after she’s ridden the c c and is post wall she demands and expect commitment from a high value male

[–]LiftSushiDallas 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your comment was duplicated. Just to let you know.

[–]TryLambda 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Problem is with your statement is that after she’s ridden the c c and is post wall she demands and expect commitment from a high value male

[–]LiftSushiDallas 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some do. Some marry beta men and have families.

They are far more successful at getting what they want than 90% of men.

[–]SilentFroggy 1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Would men still find high n count women unattractive if it didn’t come with any consequences?

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Would men still find high n count women unattractive if it didn’t come with any consequences?

Yes.Once woman is no longer low n count or have relationships,she lost her value of attraction.

They will only find her attractive if they are to have sex with her.

No one in history will appreciate used women.Even widow who was good wife will be unattractive unless she is 18-20

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW)[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

someone reported this for "misinformation"

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Who knows. But high n-counts come with consequences for both genders in reality.

[–]SilentFroggy 3 points4 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I think the whole “high n count women come with consequences” is just an excuse. Me personally, I don’t even think about that, I just don’t want to commit to a woman that’s been used.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

And why should a woman commit to a man who's been used?

[–]SilentFroggy 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That depends if women objectify men.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Because women in general find men who are successful with women attractive. The same does not hold true for men because men realize that women really have to put no effort to get laid, the same isn't true for a man who is sexually successful.

[–]SmarmyPapsmears 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree on both; in an ideal relationship, both partners would be low n. I unfortunately have high n and learned about this shit too late (also I'm already married)

[–]Eyesofmalice 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely yeah. Women think they’re non patriarchal by the sole virtue of being women. And they equate being anti patriarchal by doing what they want without any accountability.

Many people think they can be feminists without doing any reading and without thinking critically about themselves as well. So lazy.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, feminism is ideologically opposed to women having any accountability except when they have "internalized misogyny".

[–]Eyesofmalice 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wholeheartedly disagree.

[–]ElectricBugs 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Johnny Depp doesn't have trauma from high n count

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He will have issues from the last bitch he ran into.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Men who fuck around can also encounter serious trauma, see Johnny Depp for instance.

Lol.He can still have fun and live good life and still get loyal hot young woman.

It may affect men but they can get compensation.For women,once it is done,it is done

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but he's going to be more jaded and look at women with an enormous suspicion that he didn't have before. Any other woman coming into his life has a higher bar to pass now, some portions of that being highly unreasonable.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Do you know any guy with high n count and becoming more jaded? If yes,what is his relationship with women like?

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Every guy I know who was a player ended up jaded and seeing women as cheap. Very bad LTR material, every last one of them.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Very bad LTR material, every last one of them.

Does that matter if they don't want marriage or LTR?I don't think so.

[–]Eyesofmalice 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I think you’re not identifying that sex is also pleasurable for women. Even beyond the physical pressure people in our society draw from sex validation (I’m not saying this is natural by the way, I think it’s cultural). Just as the patriarchy makes masculinity effective in terms of how many women are attracted to you, femininity is validated in relation to the status of the person they can get attracted to them.

I also disagree with your idea that what matters in the end is long term happiness, because it’s very dubious to claim that women would be happier in the long term by not having as much sex as they could. I guess that’s a question for an stoic but if you’re predisposed to have easy access to sex and also to be able to play those games and be defensive since regardless you won’t be ostracized anyway then there’s really no incentive for women not to sleep around at their heart’s content.

Now in terms of emotional baggage, I think inceldom shows that lack of sex also creates emotional baggage, moderate amounts of sex can also create a lot of emotional damage due to the fact that existence doesn’t stop whenever activity ceases. Our idea of self is not material but phantasmatic (I know I come across as pretentious but what I mean is that even if you don’t perform an activity or in general don’t behave in relation to who you are, you tend to judge yourself in relation to a sort of phantom of yourself that in your head follows certain principles)

I don’t think only men who duck around a lot see women as expendable. Even people who have no luck with women are prone to view them as expendable, and so do women see men in general. In our society humanity are seen as discardable because we organize all our institutions in ways in which individuality is rendered irrelevant and humanity itself as a cumbersome factor.

Finally, even though I commend non violent behavior, sex and love are inherently violent and exclusive. You dating someone committedly will inherently be exclusive to others who desire you invariably. There’s an argument to be made I think that it might be why liberals are now playing with ideas of non exclusive open relationships with no violence involved, and critical theory has many times problematized the idea of love and attraction itself pointing out its relation to the institutions that enforce patriarchal rule. So saying to women “don’t do this cause you’re hurting yourself and others!” Feels a bit like telling someone not to eat delicious food because it’s bad for their health, I mean it might be true but pleasure ultimately is a massive incentive in life, so chances are a less pleasurable life in that regard won’t be worth living for them.

[–]Bandit174 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Theres a lot of mixed messaging from women on reddit about this. Guys will say that women are lucky/privileged with how easily they can have sex with attractive guys but in response women on reddit almost always say something to the effect of "you're looking at it through the male lens. We don't value or enjoy casual sex like you do. What matters to us is getting commitment"

[–]Eyesofmalice 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Absolutely yeah. They think feminism is (doing what I want without having to think too much about anything)

[–]Bandit174 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

are you a guy or a girl?

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think you’re not identifying that sex is also pleasurable for women. Even beyond the physical pressure people in our society draw from sex validation (I’m not saying this is natural by the way, I think it’s cultural). Just as the patriarchy makes masculinity effective in terms of how many women are attracted to you, femininity is validated in relation to the status of the person they can get attracted to them.

I'm sure you have your Youtube University sources to counter the many studies that point out how wrong you are?

I also disagree with your idea that what matters in the end is long term happiness, because it’s very dubious to claim that women would be happier in the long term by not having as much sex as they could. I guess that’s a question for an stoic but if you’re predisposed to have easy access to sex and also to be able to play those games and be defensive since regardless you won’t be ostracized anyway then there’s really no incentive for women not to sleep around at their heart’s content.

Women Less Likely to Have Orgasm During Casual Sex?

Fewer women are pursuing casual sex, not more. Again, all you've got to counter this is "b-b-b-but I don't believe it!" backed by Facebook Academy bullshit... if that.

Why More Women Are Saying No to Casual Sex

Now in terms of emotional baggage, I think inceldom shows that lack of sex also creates emotional baggage, moderate amounts of sex can also create a lot of emotional damage due to the fact that existence doesn’t stop whenever activity ceases. Our idea of self is not material but phantasmatic (I know I come across as pretentious but what I mean is that even if you don’t perform an activity or in general don’t behave in relation to who you are, you tend to judge yourself in relation to a sort of phantom of yourself that in your head follows certain principles)

Yes, inceldom causes emotional damage, but the moderate amount of sex that is most damaging comes from multiple broken hearts or being pumped and dumped/ghosted, which is both damaging for men and women alike.

I don’t think only men who duck around a lot see women as expendable. Even people who have no luck with women are prone to view them as expendable, and so do women see men in general. In our society humanity are seen as discardable because we organize all our institutions in ways in which individuality is rendered irrelevant and humanity itself as a cumbersome factor.

The excessive pursuit of sex without commitment makes men and women see each other as expendable whether they have luck in pursuing it or not. We are better off getting intimate with someone with attachment in mind and as long as the other person has the same agenda.

Finally, even though I commend non violent behavior, sex and love are inherently violent and exclusive.

No, when it comes to violence you're confusing love versus lust. Lust is exploitative, love is not exploitative or violent. Non-exclusive open relationships also have a lot of risk involved, I've seen those explode worse so.

So saying to women “don’t do this cause you’re hurting yourself and others!”

In case you didn't notice I said the same thing to men for the same reason, they're hurting themselves and others.

Because casual sex also damages men who fuck around a lot.

Remember that part?

[–]Eyesofmalice 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

care to cite two of the many studies that show that women draw no validation fro sex ?

An orgasm isn't the only source of pleasure. If it is for you though I think it's pretty embarrassing to imply yourself to be a wanker in public to be honest.

Orgasms also are determined by factors that are trans-biological. Sex is filled with fetiches, perversions, reversals etc etc. You being happy and reaching orgasm is a cope out because happiness is not a category that's beyond a critical view. You can reach an orgasm and be happy even though your life is in tatters and you're violent to your spouse. Women reporting being happier while they were less free from a spiritual point of view (Taking into account Kierkeegard) is quite consistent. Freedom is not a source of happiness, is a source of anguish. Women most likely were happier when they had less rights, but their previous happiness does not validate their previous lack of freedom.

I don't care about people having broken hearts one bit. If you date and you're not at the absolute top of society you're only choice as a man is to cope and think to yourself that your partner really loves you and as a women lie to yourself thinking that th mean you're with wouldn't trade you without hesitating for a second if he could do better. Broken-heartedness is such a Disney thing, you must be American.

people are expendable, outside of religion there is no moral framework that can give people meaning as individuals. So maybe sleeping around is the most natural and logical thing to do in an age which claims to be rational.

*love is not exploitative or violent. you sound like a grandmother. According to who anyway, snowhite or some shit? Who even knows if romantic love can exist without love. Although I guess I should trust your life as the barometer with which to understand all social interactions.

I don't care if people hurt themselves. I don't think lack of emotional damage is necessarily good. Sometimes emotional damage is the catalyst for positive changes. But like it's such a liberal mindset "oh we need to protect everyone's feelings no mater who they are and have a society that's as sanitized and safe as we possibly can regardless of the underlying issues we may be facing"

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you’re not identifying that sex is also pleasurable for women.

When that statement got smashed by the fact that women rarely achieve orgasms during casual sex you moved the goalposts to:

care to cite two of the many studies that show that women draw no validation fro sex ?

LOL. WTF is 'validation' and what proof do you have that women draw validation from casual sex? Show cites please. Of course you can't. But then you've already moved the goalposts as it is.

An orgasm isn't the only source of pleasure. If it is for you though I think it's pretty embarrassing to imply yourself to be a wanker in public to be honest.

Orgasms are the primary source of pleasure. Compared to validation it's like an elephant vs a mouse. Also women prefer a connection when they're having sex - something they don't get from casual sex.

Now you've shown yourself to be a petulant, irrational toddler - in public, no less.

Orgasms also are determined by factors that are trans-biological. Sex is filled with fetiches, perversions, reversals etc etc. You being happy and reaching orgasm is a cope out because happiness is not a category that's beyond a critical view. You can reach an orgasm and be happy even though your life is in tatters and you're violent to your spouse. Women reporting being happier while they were less free from a spiritual point of view (Taking into account Kierkeegard) is quite consistent. Freedom is not a source of happiness, is a source of anguish. Women most likely were happier when they had less rights, but their previous happiness does not validate their previous lack of freedom.

Oh and you're not just an irrational toddler but a misogynistic asshole who thinks freedom is antithetical to women's happiness.

I don't care about people having broken hearts one bit.

And you're a sociopath, too.

people are expendable,

And a psychopath.

*love is not exploitative or violent. you sound like a grandmother.

And here you prove you're a total imbecile with zero understanding of human beings.

But like it's such a liberal mindset

Aahhhh, I see what your problem is. You're a MAGA right wing incel.

Off with ye, and clean your sock for God's sake.

[–]Odd-Luck7658 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are completely wrong. Stop worrying about N counts and improve yourself.

[–]mcove97NeutralPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Life experience gets to us all. People can become jaded by missing out too.

[–]Wide_Result9679 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Any bad experience with the opposite sex can breed resentment. Bitter divorced people are a dime a dozen.

I agree people who have zero regard for others damage themselves and others. I actually became less promiscuous when it hit me the idea men don't get attached from sex is a big fat lie - many do. I hurt some people when I didn't want more so I stopped treating sex flippantly.

But one can have a casual experience without treating others poorly. It's about respect for yourself and others. There's a world of difference between the two-year casual dating relationship I had where he knew he was moving to another city when his contract was up & took me on great dates, treated me well, & was a good friend, and people who walk into a bar and treat people like meat, which both men and women unfortunately do.

[–]Odd-Luck7658 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Weak men can't handle an experienced woman.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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