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"Looks don't matter, it's your personality that counts."

September 5, 2022
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Title "Looks don't matter, it's your personality that counts."
Author Antisocial_Nihilist
Upvotes 24
Comments 35
Date September 5, 2022 11:59 PM UTC (3 months ago)
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[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 6 points7 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Females go reeeeeeeeeeeeeee to this.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill[S] 6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

And the original thread was too Blackpilled so it got deleted, of course.

A lot of subreddits seem to be heavily censoring threads like these which "humanize" these incels too much.

[–]BoogersAndSugar 6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Too many people are threatened by the truth - gold diggers, settlers, the entire "dating advice" industry, butthurt ugly/short guys who can't handle the truth, etc. And the corporate elites, too - just think of all the houses, boats, cars, vacation packages, jewelry, designer clothes, etc, that plain looking men purchase in order to "attract" a mate. The entire economy relies on men believing sexual attraction can be bought!

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The entire economy relies on men believing sexual attraction can be bought

Dude, I never thought about it that way, your comment just gave me a realization.

I can totally see now why pretty much all major social media platforms (Reddit, YouTube, Facebook, ect) censor the Blackpill so damn hard.

Could you just imagine how badly the economy would take a nose dive if like 60% of men came to the realization that genuine love and affection from women can't be bought?

So much shit corporate America sells is designed to get lower class men to think it will get women to like them. Women don't like you? Buy our $200 cologne! Women don't like you? Buy our $230 denim jeans, $80 t-shirt, and $350 designer jacket! And how about a $500 pair of Ray-Bans to go with it! And while you're at it, sign up for our $1,800 dating coach classes!

Imagine if all the lower class men immediately just stopped buying into this bullshit. That puts it into perspective why corporations seem to be unusually hostile towards the Blackpill. Having ugly men think they can buy a woman's love is a staple in thier profits.

[–]BoogersAndSugar 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oooooo man, so many businesses would be in a world of shit if too many average looking men realized women were only "less visual than man" in a pragmatic sense! These corporate leaders know exactly what they're doing. We've all heard the saying "you can't buy love", yet commercial interests have manipulated men into trying to do exactly that.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It can.

Women actually find wealth attractive. It represents safety and security, which they are genetically programmed to seek out.

Looks (including height and muscle) are also important, as they represent superior genetics for baby.

Personality does matter a bit. Women find Alpha behaviour attractive (although this is easily confused with merely “Dick” behaviour, which is not”).

[–]BoogersAndSugar 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wealth can boost already-existing physical attraction, but absolutely will not trigger sexual attraction in a man she find physically below average. Her "attraction" to him is only pragmatic and negotiated, not what I'd consider legitimate, not something I would trust for anything serious.

[–]figosnypes 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And the corporate elites, too - just think of all the houses, boats, cars, vacation packages, jewelry, designer clothes, etc, that plain looking men purchase in order to "attract" a mate. The entire economy relies on men believing sexual attraction can be bought!

DING DING DING YES! THIS. It's amazing to me how so few people have made this connection. But IMO they are doing a lot more than just censoring the truth is order to prevent this, I believe they are actually controlling women's sexual preferences/behavior through social programming. People don't realize how powerful slut-shaming is. A lot of people actually believe that slut-shaming is a tool designed by the "patriarchy" to keep women in check for the benefit of men. This is not the case. Slut-shaming is designed to keep women in check in order to protect the sexual market from "inflation" and ensure that men continue paying big bucks for sex, affection, companionship, etc. Yes women are selective by nature, but I actually believe that nurture(aka social programming) has made them FAR more selective than they would be naturally, and in ways specifically manufactured to gatekeep more effectively. Nowadays even a lot of your stereotypical Chads, who would get laid easily if women were operating based on their innate biology, have to jump through hoops with women. Younger generations of women have this aversion to being "cheap" and "easy" and falling for "players". And what you'll notice is that Chads who look "mature" have a tendency to trigger this aversion and the associated slut-shaming. It's really only the adolescent "pretty boys" that are immune to it. Basically social programming gives women the green light to let nature run it's course with younger adolescent guys because these guys are too young to be profitable, whereas grown men who are old enough to be in the workforce are now being required to pay or commit(which entails paying) in order to get laid. What you'll find however is that women's innate sexual attraction to attractive non-adolescent men cannot be entirely switched off, so there are many "weaker" women out there who will give in to their urges despite their slut-shaming induced conscience telling them no. But these women then develop a cognitive dissonance which they try to quell by pushing hard for a committed relationship with the man. This is the phenomenon many of them mislabel as "catching feelings". It should make sense now why many women report that they feel an aversion to hooking up with all except much younger men because they are afraid of "catching feelings"(sex with young adolescent boys = no slut-shaming = no cognitive dissonance = no "catching feelings"). When the attractive mature men are resistant to a relationship after the hookup, that's when you get the phenomenon of women becoming bitter and femcelish and in some cases they can go to the extreme of leveling false rape accusations. I still remember a post on the dating subreddit where a woman was ranting about how a guy dated her then didn't commit and how she feels cheated and "demands compensation" LOL. Modern women's sexual behavior is practically a personality disorder.

[–]BoogersAndSugar 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course, It jeopardizes their hustle. Women need ugly men to think the girls who are settling for them are actually sexually attracted to them, otherwise those men wouldn't fall for their scams.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

girls who are settling for them

Yet another person who PROPERLY read those OkCupid studies. Few people realize the data didn't say women won't date ugly men. It said women will date ugly men but they will never be truly happy with them.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

As someone who is ugly,looks really matter.Even though I still think personality matters little bit more for man.For woman, forget it as I don't think personality is our big asset.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

why not

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do you mean? Like looks don't matter?

[–]BurnaAccount1227 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know why people keep spouting that same bullshit lie time and again.

Looks are everything. Literally everything in life becomes easier if you're attractive. You're more likely to be successful. Happier. More confident. More dating options and a higher chance of finding a solid partner for a relationship. Better social interactions can lead to all kinds of opportunities, both professionally and socially.

Being ugly is playing the game of life on hard mode.

[–]KirthWGersen 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Emotions are what count.

These can be created by looks, personality, status, game, context, and many other factors.

Vanishingly few people have it all. All you can can do is play the hand you were dealt in the best way possible.

The problem is when people focus on just one thing. Like those gym guys whose insecurity tells them they need an extra centimetre on their biceps to get women lining up for dates. No, man. You already have a decent enough body. What you need to do is develop a personality. Maybe hold a conversation like a man who can read words longer than three letters.

For other guys, they have the charm and the talk. But losing 50 kilos and toning up wouldn't be a bad idea.

[–]HighValueMoidxD 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Coping hard. Plenty of mindless gym rats who failed high school and never read a book in their life have fantastic success because they're attractive. They also attract academic and intelligent women by the way.

[–]KirthWGersen 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's fine for while, but it is hardly a long-term plan.

Being a well-rounded man, rather than just focussing on one aspect (physical, intellectual, money or charm, etc.), will give you a happier life as a whole in the long-term. Remember, we are here for 70+ years, so there is a lot of life to make the most of.

If you already have a great body, making it 10 percent better will be a much worse use of your time than improving other aspects of your life by far more. There are diminishing returns. Though, admittedly, most guys never reach that stage in any aspect of their lives🤣.

[–]HighValueMoidxD 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe I see your point. A charismatic man will obviously do better than a totally dumb guy if they had the exact same looks. So I agree that you should maxx looks and mental to the fullest.

Yet, it is important to remember that just being charismatic without looks is worthless.

Finally, I agree that fixing your flaws should take priority over creating assets. Fixing failos > creating halos

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Women and attractive men are the noble class of technoratic first world countries

[–]LiterallyAFknTroll 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Attractive women

[–]shreyastalpade 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Naah anything above below average women.

[–]LiterallyAFknTroll 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Below average woman is an attractive woman

[–]shreyastalpade 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Somewhat, the top comment was correct about women and attractive men.

[–]IHateNormis 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Personality mattering is the biggest lie told.

[–]HighValueMoidxD -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

He probably just acquired much more confidence through being attractive.

If he had have the same confidence when he was ugly, he would have slayed in the same manner.

Also, if he have had the same confidence when he was ugly, but didn't succeed, it was because he was just faking it and it must come from within.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

And at the center of our wonderful city rising above the urban sprawl is the cope tower Glistening in the sunlight

[–]oogabooga5425 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao

[–]curisax1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

i find it beyond laughable that this 'girls don't care about looks', 'girls aren't visual' is still told to guys lol. (obviously mainly in the pickup industry etc)

It's honestly the same as being told 'women don't have taste buds adn can't taste food' or something. It's just obscene lol.

[–]HighValueMoidxD 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Did he ever try to give you bluepill or redpill advice?

A prettyboy Chad once told me to always only vaguely answer questions to seem mysterious. So I told him it's doesn't work like that, if you're attractive and quiet you're mysterious, if you're attractive and assertive you're confident – but if you're unattractive and quiet nobody cares, and if you're unattractive and assertive you're cocky.

He didn't know a response to that and had to agree.

[–]curisax1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

he would have no idea what redpill and bluepill even mean, although he's no idiot and he's aware that he's good looking and that this is what gets him girls.

[–]HighValueMoidxD 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, but did he give you advice ever? Even unsolicited?

[–]TriggurWarning 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Once you go blackpill you never come back.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I believe we've enter a new paradigm in the dating market.

Pre-industrial era, money was mostly a product of hard work, manual labor and intelligence.

Because men we're more physically stronger than women, men were more valued as a labor force than women. Thus men typically made the bread.

Women who lacked resources would made a calculative trade off with her potential spouse.

She would balance resource, looks and personality. Because resource acquisition was difficult, it was common that resources>looks in the past.

Now in modern times, resource acquisition is no longer predicated on hard work, manual labor and intelligence. Thanks to the internet, the most important factor is intelligence. Because on average, men and women are similar in intelligence, women are now earning as much or MORE than their male counterparts.

If women in the past desired wealth/looks/personality, but are no longer restrained by wealth as a factor, what happens to the other two factors? I think that's what we're seeing now. Women are now valuing looks more than ever before.

I don't think it's coincidence. Ads for male grooming (lawn mower shaver) and skin care routine for men (I forget what company) are becoming more mainstream. I'm not that old, but male beauty wasn't really a thing back in 90s. Now it's something that's suggested to men. Soon, it will be something that's required of men. Maybe men will start wearing make up as a mainstream thing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with most of what you said, except for the makeup part.

Women hate it when a guy is ‘bypassing’ their selection radar. If she’s really into a guy but finds out he’s wearing toupee, it will most likely be a dealbreaker. I get it, it’s something that stems from millennia’s of evolution, hence they’ll always want the man who has it all effortlessly and naturally.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with your statement. I think makeup will work for hook ups. Anything past the 1 day mark will be hard to keep up.

Men also don't like being deceived too. I read a story that a man killed his wife when he found out she had major plastic surgery. That's why men prefer women with less makeup. They want to know what her true genetics are.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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