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Male sexlessness is skyrocketing compared to female sexlessness - basically, women are sharing Chads. There's no way to spin that any other way.

RatDontPanic
October 11, 2022
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Title Male sexlessness is skyrocketing compared to female sexlessness - basically, women are sharing Chads. There's no way to spin that any other way.
Author RatDontPanic
Upvotes 48
Comments 104
Date October 11, 2022 3:19 AM UTC (11 months ago)
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[–]SmarmyPapsmears 15 points16 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Feminism = hypergamy

[–]RedditsOlderBrah -2 points-1 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

oh word?

We present findings from an almost comprehensive world-level analysis using census and survey microdata from 420 samples and 120 countries spanning from 1960 to 2011, which allow us to assert that the reversal of the gender gap in education is strongly associated with the end of hypergamy and increases in hypogamy

oh, word?

Across a range of different contexts (e.g. United States, France, India, South Korea, Kenya), the norms governing marriage markets have proven flexible enough to accommodate the increasing numbers of highly educated women and, as consequence, the numbers of women marrying down has increased steadily.

oh; word?

Countries in which women have more education relative to men are also those that are more tolerant and less worried about the “harmful” side effects of women’s earnings on their families’ well-being.

oh: word?

We examine the extent to which the observed decrease in hypergamy is connected to the worldwide rise in female educational attainment.

[–]melody_of_ 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

We present findings from an almost comprehensive world-level analysis using census and survey microdata from 420 samples and 120 countries spanning from 1960 to 2011, which allow us to assert that the reversal of the gender gap in education is strongly associated with the end of hypergamy and increases in hypogamy

Across a range of different contexts (e.g. United States, France, India, South Korea, Kenya), the norms governing marriage markets have proven flexible enough to accommodate the increasing numbers of highly educated women and, as consequence, the numbers of women marrying down has increased steadily.

Countries in which women have more education relative to men are also those that are more tolerant and less worried about the “harmful” side effects of women’s earnings on their families’ well-being.

We examine the extent to which the observed decrease in hypergamy is connected to the worldwide rise in female educational attainment.

All of these are just describing the obvious statistical inevitablility that with women earning similar amounts there is less pressure to be more hypergamous due to economic/cultural factors. That in. No way discredits the idea that women are hypergamous only that they wont be as hypergamous in certain situations then as others.

Your also leaving out the fact that in a society with equitable pay women statistically are going to have far less ability to marry a man who makes more then them * by definition *

This is equivalent to pointing to studies that show men in less violent cultures are less violent and then trying to conclude from that that men and women have equal levels of aggression naturally.

[–]RedditsOlderBrah -4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

hi, if you want to debate academics, cite sources. your fucked up brain's interpretations of what's going on has no value.

EDIT: the very strong and correct dickhead this is replying to blocked me to stop me from responding. that should give you some idea of how confident he is in his ideas, and how pathetic he is as a human.

[–]melody_of_ 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

if you want to debate academics, cite sources.

This isn't a debate numbnuts. Calling out the fact that your own sources dont support your core arguement was all that was needed. You are a grown man do better than crossing your fingers and hoping no one notices that your own sources dont support your own bullshit. Is your hope that if you link enough articles no one will bother reading them? Is this because you didnt read them? Or because you cant engage critically with the subject manner?

I am beyond done today.

[–]SmarmyPapsmears 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women will hyperg whether it be education or money or looks; the studies just show that women are being forced to aim lower in education because not enough men have it. They can't account for looks (which is all women fucking the same chads) as the original posts suggests.

[–]RedditsOlderBrah -5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

literally nothing you said was backed up by anything published by people who know what they're talking about.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Ok,

Firstly, most of your thesis is based on this:

"In this work, we focus on its implications for trends in assortative mating and, in particular, for educational hypergamy: the pattern in which husbands have more education than their wives."

Education. Does this mean women are now going to be earning more than men? Nope. For all the real world reasons that are behind the effect that feminazis call the "gender pay gap". In other words, motherhood.

Educational hypergamy is not the kind of hypergamy generally discussed on this thread, and you know it. Financial hypergamy is the real point. Women generally like their men to earn more than them and have more status than them. Fact.

Furthermore, what kind of education is it that all these women are getting? It isn't STEM, otherwise there wouldn't be the constant female recruitment efforts in that area. Nope. Ladies gravitate towards useless stuff like "Gender studies". Now, you might say that there are plenty of grievance-study-related jobs at the moment, but there will come a point where the West has an "Emperor has no clothes" moment, and those people with nothing but the ability to work out who is most oppressed according to the "latest thing" will find themselves out of a job. Before you hyperventilate... I'm not referring to all ladies, I am merely pointing out a trend. Careers built on a degree with the word "studies" at the end are generally built on sand.

Second: what your paper doesn't really acknowledge is the truth presented in the graph at the top of this thread. The general reduction in women having relationships in the first place: The rise of the overeducated spinster. Why is this happening?

Because all these super-educated women still want to date up. Except because there aren't that many equally educated men any more, they find themselves competing for a declining pool of men at pretty much every age group. And simple maths says most of those women will lose that competition after, perhaps, spending some time as the Tuesday-night for the local Chad.

[–]RedditsOlderBrah -5 points-4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

hi, if you want to debate academics, cite sources. your fucked up brain's interpretations of what's going on has no value.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hi,

If you want to sulk about being BTFO'd, at least try addressing the arguments.

Your "academic" stuff is just pseudo-scientific grievance-study horseshit. The sort of thing that has no real academic strength or rigour. AND ANYWAY what I've said above negates your argument. It doesn't say what you want it to say.

Jog on, chickenlips.

Cheerio!

[–]RedditsOlderBrah -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

i guess if there's any lesson here, it's that the concept of sociological expertise is capable of melting a human brain to type barely connected words until it devolves into bizarre old-timey british slang. fascinating.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Precisely the sort of observation you get from grievance studies graduates when they can't argue their point.

It's called an Ad-Hominem. Or "playing the man, not the ball".

You aren't a millenial HR weeb are you?

[–]darksoul1622NeutralPill -3 points-2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

You told them the truth and they hated you for it

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Nope. He attempted an argument and it's been shredded.

[–]RedditsOlderBrah 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

lol. i bet all the words those losers typed made you assume they had a very strong argument

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nope. It was their strong arguments.

[–]RedditsOlderBrah 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

of course it was.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

[shrugs]

[–]RedditsOlderBrah -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

who would have thought this breed of dork values what some guy feels is true over reality.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats doesnt sound like truth

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women in turn become hypergamous in other ways, ie looks and attractiveness.

[–]Odd-Luck7658 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism = equal opportunity

Hypergamy = I want the best I can get

[–]infinitofluxo 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Hookup culture leads to that. If I was cool with casual sex I wouldn't mind sharing the girls hotter than me, I would not even care to know because the uglier ones being exclusive to me in a hookup scenario means nothing other than maybe STD safety.

But of course as non-Chad man, I don't have this option. I really can't see it changing unless most women start feeling bad about it to the point of only going out with guys with the same level of looks and looking for relationships, as they are more inclined to want since it is the most consistant way for a non-Chad to get laid even if he would rather be single.

[–]Jihocech_Honza 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The real black pill is not that you can not get sex, if you are not tall, rich or handsome enough. The black pill mean you are (and never will be) No One. You will be compared to the Chads she have slept before.

[–]infinitofluxo 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, inceldom probably means the person has some mental disorder, is very poor and ugly and can't even pay for a hooker, has some standards because he can't get aroused to sub-5 girls and prefer to stay that way (which is barely inceldom, maybe volceldom).

As a non-Chad, I've had 4 girlfriends, first one was fatter than me, I was better looking than her so she overall didn't have better men than me before. The later ones all made terrible things to me, llike dead bedrooms, disrespect, compared me to other men, cheated on me, acted as low quality women. Overall I was a decent man to them, tried to be a good guy and loved them all.

This sounds like my experience. It feels like wishful thinking that I can be able to find a girl that really likes and respects me and finds sex with me better, despite the fact that she could be fucked by a young Chad any day if she got on Tinder and asked for the D.

[–]Jihocech_Honza 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you remember those pictures from high school textbooks? The skeleton and the muscular man? I once read an essay, that every fat (or even obese) man has this inner athlet and the potential to be fit. The same with the so called "incels".

And very sad and bitter boy means also a sad and lonely that could be a mother and wife.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah women's egos won't allow them to change course like that.

[–]Necessary-Worry1923 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for Posting:

Love this quote:

Only straights were increasingly subjected to an explicit, detailed, relentless deletion of token after token of the subtle gestures of the language used by men and women to engage sexually, without which, it is expected that they will be unable to communicate their sexuality and their relations will cease. Only straight relations were the target of a social movement that persistently disseminated a perception of couplehood, that is, of love, as harmful by essence, and therefore as something that should cease to exist.

That movement, is called feminism.

However I think that by itself was not sufficient to kill Sex in young America.

Men going in a self-directed way (avoiding the ACRONYM) and the sudden and humongous decrease in marriage among 20 year olds is one major factor in creating young sexlessness.

[–]Pissrael_2 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Men going in a self-directed way (avoiding the ACRONYM) and the sudden and humongous decrease in marriage among 20 year olds is one major factor in creating young sexlessness.

Is that a bad thing? It seems it is only bad because sex currently has status, but maybe culture will change.

[–]Necessary-Worry1923 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

INVOLUNTARY Sexlessness in males has been linked to violence..

If everyone was happy to be sex-poverished then okay No-harm , No Foul. The problem arises when we have that 33% of young guys going berserk because they could not get carnal.

Liberal media has actually equated IN- Cel as a terrorist, or some patriarchal hate group, ignoring the fact that the term was coined by a woman name Alana Boltwood who complained of not getting dates.

This can be equated to food insecurity where one third of the population is dying of starvation and a handful of guys get to eat like it was a bottomless buffet. Sounds like a Russian Oligarch versus the Bolsheviks.

[–]Pissrael_2 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

INVOLUNTARY Sexlessness in males has been linked to violence

It was for most of history, but after technology, crime how gone down as much as sex for men. We have less murders, less war and less violence than ever, but also less sex, less fertility, less relationships, and less relationship satisfaction.

No one expected that... social scientists predicted more crime if sexlessness grew, and yet we are seeing the opposite.

Will this suddenly slap and revert in just a few years and prove you right? No idea, this is new.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Real question is do average men seriously going accept those women who shared her past Chad even if she has great personality?No.So obviously male sexlessness will be there.

Or woman would rather choose to be single than settle for lower guy.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They might decide to accept these women. Problem is these women will abuse and misuse them like hell and it will be worse than if they remained sexless.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In that case,sexless situation doesn't sound bad then.

[–]Environmental_Lie561WhitePill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not true, I tend to date down. I like fixer uppers.

[–]Pissrael_2 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Or woman would rather choose to be single than settle for lower guy.

I think it is better for everyone that way. Women do not get to marry down and guys do not get delusional and resentful with you.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely ,we aren't that useful creatures like man. Also it would give peace to man.

[–]BlackPillPusher 2 points3 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

That's really nothing new, historically speaking only a tiny minority of men procreated, I don't see why are you guys so surprised, at least we're not being killed en masse by warlords and wild animals as much as we used to be, also getting sex is very easy these days.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not surprised at all, but now the lies are finally being destroyed by inescapable facts.

[–]EnteFetz 7 points8 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

If sex would be easy to get then there would not be so many sexless men.

Sex is only easy to get for top 10% of men and for women.

[–]BlackPillPusher -1 points0 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

If you got 100$ sex is super easy to get in most cities, even smaller ones.

[–]EnteFetz 6 points7 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

No it isn't. I've tried searching for something like that before and could not find anything that did not look sketchy. Also hygiene is a major concern with prostitution and for many men it is a terrible experience knowing that she actually hates you but only tolerates your presence because you pay her. I have never paid for sex and I don't think I can. I am too poor for it and the thought of a woman only being intimate with me because I pay her feels depressing to me.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // أشهد أن لا حبة إلا الحبة السوداء 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

i thought you said you were a zero standards, any legal hole is a goal kind of blackpiller

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The fuck it ain’t. Sex isn’t the issue, being unwanted and unloved is the issue.

If it was just about sex then you’d just fly to a country where prostitution is legal and blow off steam.

But buying sex from a prostitution is just glorified masturbating, it doesn’t change anything.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Think you hit the nail on the head there.

I think the key problem with incels isn't the lack of sex, it's the lack of acceptance / constant rejection.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // أشهد أن لا حبة إلا الحبة السوداء -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

your username isn't entefetz

[–]EnteFetz 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't have standards regarding looks and personality etc. My only requirement is that she wants to have sex with me. And I am one of the lucky ones who is able to find ugly women who actually want to sleep with me. So I am not an incel, but the only options I have are either massive overweight or have speech impediments or are quite unfortunate in the face area. But I don't reject them.

[–]BlackPillPusher 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, you know, sounds like a you problem, lower your expectations.

[–]Lost-Zebra6453 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

If you can’t afford 100$ for occasional Sex how can you afford a gf?

[–]EnteFetz 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean with afford a gf? I am not going to pay her to be my Gf. In Europe we split bills.

[–]Lost-Zebra6453 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I mean if you can’t afford 100$ Occasionally how will you afford to treat her to a nice meal once in awhile, or maybe buy her a gift just because, or because it’s her birthday or Christmas? What happens when/if there are kids?

Even when you split bills like most relationships you still spend more in a relationship than when single.

[–]EnteFetz 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, if she demands me to spend more because of her, then she is not the right one for me. Isn't it cheaper to buy things for two people? Living alone is more expensive per person than living together.

[–]Lost-Zebra6453 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes it’s cheaper to live together but you shouldn’t move in with someone for that reason you should date for awhile and make sure you are compatible first and dating you do Spend money

[–]EnteFetz 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

There is a woman I have been meeting a few times this Summer and Autumn and appart from Bus tickets to get to her place I did not spend anything extra because of her.

[–]Pissrael_2 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

...it is a terrible experience knowing that she actually hates you but only tolerates your presence because you pay her.

Well, plenty of men hate their shitty job, so I do not care she does not like it. It is still consent.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sex is super easy to get for all women.

[–]EnteFetz 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know. My current FWB is objectively ugly and she has 4000 likes on Tinder and she told me when her Ex broke up with her she had a bodybuilder in her bed destroying her pussy just 4 hours after her boyfriend left.

Thanks to dating apps men have become totally disposable.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bro I've even been rejected by women on first dates whom I MOG back to the Stone Age (I just wanted casual).

It's ridiculous.

I have two gfs and an FB now at least from dating apps. That was only after looksmaxing hard though. These girls just have to turn up.

[–]Pissrael_2 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed, but it is sad those poor men are also being shamed for using porn or giving up on dating, as clearly some women want to profit of their desperation. Very sad.

[–]BlackPillPusher 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, if these men are teenagers then yeah, it's an issue but when you're grown up giving in to social pressure is just wrong, do what keeps you alive, healthy, happy and make sure you don't hurt anyone, simple as.

[–]RedditsOlderBrah 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah i'm sure it's nothing to do with the rise of the internet and the differences between the number of young men and the number of young women that will eschew real life connections to live behind a screen.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shit was bad for men before that though. Been bad for men for thousands of years. Only 40% of men ever procreated.

[–]hari_hbp -5 points-4 points  (38 children) | Copy Link

Freedom of choice, my dude. Should never be complained about as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 14 points15 points  (36 children) | Copy Link

Feminists and blue pillers are saying that women aren't actually sharing chads and that things aren't trending toward 80/20 (which isn't the ratio yet but we're marching toward it). This chart destroys their arguments.

[–]IHateNormis 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is hurting sexless men

[–]Siukslinis_acc -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Orrr.... they are doing it with other women.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or they are doing it with both lol

[–]Odd-Luck7658 -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women are having more sex than men but you have presented no evidence that Chads are involved.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only way that women can be having more sex than men is that they're sharing men. You'd understand that if you did basic math. Those men they're sharing are Chads.

[–]HinduProphet 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rising female Homosexuality ?

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yikes! Those guys need to improve themselves so they can get in the game.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What are they improving themselves for? What's the reward?

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

They are doing it for their own well being abd the reward is the satisfaction of knowing you are the best version of yourself.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, I did that. Learned TKD and BJJ and some Krav Maga, got a wife and family, built a business. Now I'm a bit flabby from so many years of child co-rearing and sitting and I'm not my best self anymore by redpill standards. But gosh darn it I am fucking happy and that's what counts.

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