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Male thirst is out of control in 2022 and is leading to hypergamy. My perspective as a slightly bi guy

August 14, 2022
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I've been so fed up with the hypergamy among women on dating apps. That recently I just said "fuck it, some of these transgirls on these dating apps are kinda hot. I'm gonna try it." I super liked a femme passing CD (crossdresser) on Bumble back in late June. She must not have logged in until recently because she matched with me last Saturday (the 6th) and messaged me "Hii" at 10pm+. Since on Bumble women have to make the first move. This wasn't the first time I talked with a transwoman. The femme passing ones from my experience are often flaky and Chad-only or not serious about meeting.

But something just told me as soon as I saw "Hii" that I was gonna get lucky this time. Maybe there was just something in her eyes and expression in her pics that made me feel like she'd be my first transwoman. We chatted back and forth a bit but she stopped. I guess she was busy. I was hanging out with my friend. I went to the gym at midnight motivated. Then I got a message from her at like 1:40 AM. I told her that I had just been back from the gym and my muscles were sore. She said that I need a massage. I knew where this was going. She said too bad I'm far. I said that according to the GPS, she's only 4 km away.

She asks for a body pic of me. I send her one. She replies in the morning saying I'm so handsome. I call her beautiful. She asks me what my plans are for the day. I said I just came back from a run and gonna shower and I ask about her plans. She says that she doesn't have anything planned but she'd like to go to this festival. They make it so easy for me when they are actually into me. Most women it's like pulling teeth. I ask her if she'd like to go with me. She responds eagerly. She seemed so into me in the texts leading up to our date.

When we met, she asked me why I was quiet. I said I have social anxiety. She takes my hand and puts it to her bare leg and asks if I still have anxiety. ROFL I took her on a proper date and its a festival where the vendors are cash only. She was like "I didn't bring cash" (first red flag). I said "I got cash." I paid for her iced coffee ($7 CAD). I also put in 74km on my car that day driving to her place (5 km), driving to our date (30 km+), driving her home (30 km+) and driving back to mine (5km) which costs $$$ in Justin Trudeau's Canada. So I beta provided for her a little bit. lol. She seemed into me legit so I wasn't too bothered by that. She found $5 so she paid for her own churro.

Long story, we kissed, held hands, cuddled and we went to second base in my car. She was "massaging" me while I was driving her home and put her hands underneath my pants. This was my first experience with someone with a Y Chromosome and I liked it so I guess I'm bi. Though the experience left me feeling weird because she was already talking about the future. Like how she wants to move in together eventually. And how men use her for sex. And I'm just at the point where I don't know how far I want this to go.

Ciswomen are my first preference. I don't think I can ever give up pussy for life and be in a committed relationship with a transwoman. A lot of conservatives have this binary view of sexuality thinking that you can only ever really be straight or gay and that there is no in between. As much as I find the wokescold left to be very annoying, I disagree with conservatives on this. Ciswomen are my first preference. But I like transgirls too. I enjoyed cuddling with the CD and shared affection with her. It's more than just sex for me. But commitment goes further than affection and even love.

Sex with my favourite ex was amazing. I remember when I got hard when I cuddled with my ex, I knew in my heart that she was the one I wanted to be with for the rest of my life. I don't have that feeling with the transgirl. And I was black pilled af back then. My ex made me rethink my black pilled views to a degree because she made me fall in love. I think pussy is over-rated. If I don't care about the woman attached to the pussy, fucking a pussy is no better than masturbation. My right hand can get me to cum far faster than a pussy ever can. But pussy attached to a woman you're in love with is amazing. Sex for me is very mental.

I had chatted with the CD daily since then. Fast forward to Wednesday and she asks me when I'm coming over to her apartment after I had wished her good morning. I said I'd come over after she's done work. Then in the afternoon she says that somethings come up, she was invited to a friend's birthday party and needs to be there by 6. She asks me to drop her off. Her friend's house is 20 minutes highway driving from her place and 18 minutes from my place. The CD's apartment is 11 minutes from my place. So it would take 49 minutes of driving for me to pick her up, take her to her friend's house and then go back home.

I hesitated to respond for 20 minutes. I told her, "but then we wouldn't have much time to spend together." And she said "we have an hour if you come up to my apartment before taking me to my friend's house." I hesitated for another 20 minutes and said, "that's okay, we can meet another time. Have fun at the party!" And she's like "ohh okay sure". Then later in the afternoon she's like "are you sure? even if you just drop me off?" I was so disgusted with her. I said, "we'll meet another day. It's okay." And she's like "okay sure." This was Wednesday afternoon.

And then I never heard from her again and it's been nearly a full 4 days and the weekend is almost over. I'm not her personal chauffeur. She is a user/taker. Just like many ciswomen in 2022. And from my experience courting other transgirls online, it seems like many of them have held onto the worst traits of ciswomen. Many of them are materialistic and want a guy to take her out to a nice dinner on the first date. Shower them with gifts. Is there such thing as a female dating strategy site for transgirls or something? Because FDS is transphobic. Yet transgirls act exactly like FDS femcels.

So if you think dating transgirls is going to solve the hypergamy problem, THINK AGAIN. transgirls are just as materialistic (if not more so) as ciswomen. They are just as likely to be users/takers, if not more so. Transgirls can be just as hypergamous, Chad only as ciswomen. And when I see non-passable transgirls get guys showering them with compliments online, I want to throw up. Why are men boosting the egos of non-passing ugly transwomen just like they boost the egos of ugly, landwhale ciswomen?

In a way I understand why this transgirl is a leech. She showed me her Grindr. She gets messages from all these men, some of them big dicked Chads, wanting to fuck. Men are so thirsty in 2022. If I won't give her a free ride some more desperate simp out there probably offered her a ride on short notice. I myself am on Grindr because I'm there to meet transwomen. And I get tons of messages from cismen too. Men will fuck anything. So don't be jealous of women getting Chad and Tyrone dick. Chad and Tyrone both love me too because I'm a handsome guy (though a 5'6" autistic manlet). It's not special to get attention from men. Dick is cheap. Pussy is expensive.

Men, we need to level up, we need to collectively set some standards and stop boosting the egos of these females. It's getting to the point where even transgirls and CDs are developing egos and feel entitled to rides, free meals, gifts and shit from men.

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Title Male thirst is out of control in 2022 and is leading to hypergamy. My perspective as a slightly bi guy
Author alienamongnormies
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Date August 14, 2022 3:13 PM UTC (3 months ago)
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[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 11 points12 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Male thirst is as big an enemy as female hypergamy! Another man has awakened!

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I would go as far as to say that simps are the primary problem with dating in 2022. Rather than female hypergamy itself. Female nature doesn't even factor into the equation with transgirls and CDs. This CD isn't even on estrogen! That's why she's a CD and not a T-girl. She wears makeup, perfumes, grooms and dresses like a woman. She lives her life day to day as a short effeminate Filipino man. That's why she looks so convincing as a woman. Asian men are far more effeminate than white men on average. I bet some other poor simp gave her a ride to her friend's house when I didn't. It's like she thinks she's too good to get a Presto card (transit card in the Toronto/Hamilton area) I guess. Her friend's house is just a couple bus rides away. And transfers are free up for 2 hours. She's an adult. She can get there on her own.

It's bad enough that I let it slide when she said "I don't have any cash" on our date. Ciswomen pull that stunt all the time. Makes you wonder if women even enjoy men and sex when they do that shit. Would they say "I don't have any cash" if 6' square jaw Chad from Grindr agreed to go on a date with her instead of insisting on Netflix & Chill?

On dating subs on reddit, you routinely hear women justify men paying for dates by saying that women risk rape every time they go on a date with a man. They talk about the orgasm gap and how sex rarely leads to orgasm for them. And they talk about the expense and time of putting on makeup. As if us guys don't take time and expense out of getting ready ourselves. I pay $15/month for my gym membership + $39 annual fee plus taxes. I burn lots of gas and put wear on my brakes and car driving 13.3km round trip every other day to the gym. The gas and mileage is actually more expensive than my gym membership. I bought workout clothes. I see very few women at my gym. It's mostly men. Women are staying home getting obese in 2022. I bought running shoes. I invest time and money into my cardio, strength training and diet. I put money and effort into wearing nice clothes, having a nice haircut, looking good, smelling good, good hygiene, manscaping, cologne, etc.

If women are so terrified of men, why even agree to go on a date? Why even install the dating apps in the first place? Why not go WGTOW if women think that they are doing men a favor by going on a date with us? Women are just playing these cards as an excuse to get a free meal, free drinks, free ride, gifts, bills paid, etc.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would go as far as to say that simps are the primary problem with dating in 2022.

Correction, you are wide awake to reality. You must be dehydrated from spitting out so much facts. I don't care what your sexual persuasion is, we need more people like you out telling the truth. Men need to hear this. I thought I was the only one seeing things this deep. I keep saying we gotta look at the face in the mirror and start yelling at that as part of the problem.

Hypergamy is like fire, it needs oxygen fuel and heat to happen. We can steal the fuel and the oxygen by being less simpish and thirsty. Game over!

[–]Wide_Result9679 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The #1 complaint my guys friends have about dating women is that women are flaky.

I'm not lying when I tell them it's because we're scared. When the moment arrives, yes, I'm suddenly wondering if the guy who asked me out for drinks at a fairly late hour is a predator. We date in spite of our fear, sure, but that doesn't mean the fear isn't real, it just means it's a dating challenge women shoulder that men typically don't. The fact that we date anyway is why Louis CK joked it's amazing women go on dates at all when men are such a huge threat to us.

You don't see as many women in gyms because most fit women are doing yoga, hitting group workout classes, or working out at home. The gym isn't the fave workout spot of fit women. Then on top of workout costs, women have expenses for hair, body hair removal, makeup and sexy outfits...and that's minimal. A lot of women also get spray tans and their nails done. So yeah, a guy understanding women spend more on their appearances and paying for a date is appreciated. If you had to spend what I spend to be considered acceptable, you'd probably be irritated if you had to pay on a date too. Go sit in a salon for a few hours for hair dye & cut every 6 weeks paying a lot, spend time & $ on makeup, remove all of your body hair every 2 days, work out, and then get back to me on how you'd feel if a person who has a wash & go hairstyle wearing a chill outfit with zero makeup who totally expects you to do everything I just stated wanted to split the date.

The fact that you're bitching about $15/month for a gym membership when studies show women spend at minimum about $100/month more than men do on appearances would be hilarious if you weren't dead serious. And men whine their asses off if women opt for an easy short hairstyle, don't shave, never dress or doll up in a feminine way, etc.

[–]brightglowup1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

If women are so terrified of men, why even agree to go on a date? Many don't. Haven't you noticed

Why even install the dating apps in the first place? Because it seems like a good idea until men start speaking

Why not go WGTOW if women think that they are doing men a favor by going on a date with us

Why not worry about yourself instead of trying to control everything you have zero control of? This is a common male disease. Outwardly projecting their issues and trying to edit female behavior to suit their nonsense. Women are going to do what they want. Mature. Become sexually competitive. Grow up.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You tell us to grow up yet you pink pillers expect men to handle your shit instead of handling your own shit, paying for your own shit. I'm tired of your shit. Your pussy is not as good as you think it is. I've only ever enjoyed sex with two women and I've been with 9 women and 14 hookers. Not including the transgirl.

[–]catniagara 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

To becoming gay? And they said the gay agenda was a lie 😂

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

To becoming gay? And they said the gay agenda was a lie 😂

I'm not gay. There was this hot chick (a ciswoman) at the gym two days ago bending over near me and I had a really hard time trying not to look. Sexuality is on a spectrum, not binary. There is a large zone between gay and straight. You can be turned on making out with a passing crossdresser and you can be turned on seeing a ciswoman bend over in the gym. These things are not mutually exclusive. I don't believe in labels. I'm not going to say that I am straight. But I am definitely not gay. Gay would imply that I'm not into ciswomen at all.

I've noticed a lot of homophobia and transphobia coming from women online directed towards bisexual men. Because they think that a man or a transwoman/CD is going to steal their man. If I had a girlfriend that I felt was the one (like I did with my ex), I would never cheat on her. Point blank, period. I never felt the desire to hook up with a crossdresser or transwoman when my ex was emptying my balls on the regular.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's like the chicken/egg problem. What came first? Male thirst or women hypergamy? Well, the way I see it, they both existed since the dawn of time. What changed was the internet and the globalization of the sexual market.

Before a women was limited to her circle of friends. Now girls are getting dms for trips to Dubai. Men are now competing on a global scale. Male attention ain't worth shit, when millions of beta simps are giving it away for free.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Male thirst is also what drives economies as a woman getting access to a dual income will always lead to more consumption of shit you never needed in the first place.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is why grass eater men like how I was for *years* at a time are bad for society. As I gave up on dating women for years and just lived a NEET hikikomori lifestyle in my dad's basement consooming.

The only reason why I am even bothering with the dating apps at all is because the only time in my life where I felt any sort of real happiness was when I was with my ex. I love her. And since she doesn't wanna be with me anymore for one reason or another (I think she still loves me but is afraid of getting hurt going back to me. Because I did break her heart when we were together), I want to be with some other woman that makes me feel the way she made me feel. Problem is, it's hard to find another woman like that. Women are such cunts in 2022. Women don't even believe in romance anymore. They just want a beta cuckold buying her shit. There is more to life than consumption though. Whatever happened to women wanting love and romance? What happened to love conquers all?

I've been immersed in black pill for years. But I like to believe in the blue pill a little bit because it keeps me sane. If I accept the black pill 100%, I would feel suicidal as my life would have no meaning beyond consumption and wage cuckolding.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yea if your happiness as a person depends on another person then that really isn't healthy mate.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yea if your happiness as a person depends on another person then that really isn't healthy mate.

It's natural for humans to crave intimacy with romantic partners and friends. Unless you're asexual like a priest, a human can't be expected to be mentally healthy without romantic and sexual contact. And also good friendships.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wanting intimacy isn't wrong. But expecting that some other person is the basis of your happiness is a recipe for disaster. You either are happy with your life and you choose to be with a person who enhances that or you simply outsource your happiness to that other person - the latter is why so many people claim that their partner no longer makes them happy - because it's fucking exhausting.

[–]Ambassadior -5 points-4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever considered that maybe transwomen are women?

[–]Fit-Faithlessness149 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Honestly? No. I'm all for equal rights and fair treatment but they aren't women. If they can't accept their genetic gender at birth how can I pretend to accept their chosen change in gender? I'm a progressive BTW.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Personally I do see transwomen as woman. But it's not quite the same thing 100%. After all when the CD was talking about commitment, I found myself in a situation asking myself can I ever really give up pussy and commit to her 100%? And the answer is no. The equipment does matter to some extent.

Also how many ciswomen grabbed my hand and put it to their bare legs within 10 minutes of a date? 0. Two ciswomen I met off Craigslist were jump offs who went straight to it. But never has a ciswoman been so sexually forward with me on a real date before. And this was my first ever date with a transwoman. I've talked with other transwomen. They are more aggressive in general. Testosterone is a helluva of a hormone. It makes you crave sex so strongly. Even the ones pumped full of estrogen are still insatiably horny.

I respect their pronouns, which is why I referred to the CD as she/her throughout, but honestly I do roll my eyes when I see wokescolding from liberals.

Personally I find that I occupy a moderate part of this political spectrum. I'm not woke enough for the wokescold liberals. But I'm too much of a degenerate to be accepted by people who have conservative views on this subject as well. The woke liberals frequently give me lectures about how I'm not sufficiently woke to date transwomen. As if that is their fucking business. How I need to "educate myself." I got that lecture this morning from a reddit liberal.

In reality, a lot of transwomen from my experience want masculine men (they specifically ask for this in their profiles) and not a liberal reddit soyboy. If anything I'm not masculine enough for the CD. She seems to prefer men who take charge more. And I'm a bit passive admittedly. I have autism and social anxiety.

[–]Ambassadior 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Transwomen aren't biological women, even they understand that. But transwomen identify and resonate with femininity.

Gender is an expression with the world around you. Hence when a guy behaves certain ways we call them pussys or girls.

Sex is the biological XX or XY chromosome and how we define them. These two overlap in the majority of cases but sometimes they don't. If you're actually progressive, it shouldn't be hard to wrap your head around.

[–]Fit-Faithlessness149 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh I can wrap my head around it. It will still never change my ingrained reaction that that's just a dude pretending to be a woman. Which is fine but the uncanny valley prevents me from being able to trick myself into thinking of them as a legitimate woman. They are a legitimate human being with emotions and feelings that I would endeavor not to harm and that's about as far as I can go.

[–]Ambassadior 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Transwomen are self aware. Again, we all know they arent biological or "legitimate" Women. They are quite literally transitioning women, who make synthetic changes like taking hormones and altering their bodies so that their internal expression meets their outward one.

Transwomen and women are two different things and anyone with enough braincells will agree. At least you can see the humanity in them and not just sex objects. No one is trying to convince you that they're biologically born females. They ask that you accept their status in being transwomen.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

They certainly behave like women when they expect us to be their free personal chauffeur and give them free meals, gifts, pay their bills, etc. If anything I find that transwomen on average are even more materialistic and predatory than ciswomen. My favourite ex, a ciswoman, believed in going Dutch. I loved her but she had BPD. lol.

I feel gross now. I might never date another CD or transwoman ever again if they are just going to emulate the worst aspects of female nature like this. The whole point of me going on a date with her was that I thought she was cool and different (because of her male brain) from all these bitches who used me and broke my heart over the years. I still haven't recovered 100% after my ex with BPD walked out on me. I went to therapy too. And these transwomen end up being even worse human beings than my ex with an actual vagina! I feel like I had PTSD when I saw an incel looking Asian man in my gym Friday night. I wondered if that is how the CD looks like behind the makeup, dress, perfume and the razor. She used me and I feel sick.

[–]Ambassadior 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps people (regardless of gender) need to warm up to a person before they can feel sexually submissive to them? Maybe a bit of care is required before letting someone stick their dong into their orifices.

I'm a dude too, so I understand the annoying parts of femininity. But that's the tradeoff we make. If you don't actually enjoy the time spent and it's not worth it to facilitate you don't have to. You can hire a hooker for a more honest transaction. The sex will probably be better too. But if you want romance, it requires actually caring about a person enough to want to do things for them.

Transwomen were men born so feminine that it was necessary to change their entire identity. That's not a male brain because ours is formed around the masculine aspect of nature. You created some ideal in your head that doesn't exist. If anything, you desire a woman that leans towards the masculine aspect. But even then, do you expect to never do anything for others at all? No one is forcing you to be a chauffeur or pay anyone's bills. You have free will. If you do something, do it because you want to.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps people (regardless of gender) need to warm up to a person before they can feel sexually submissive to them? Maybe a bit of care is required before letting someone stick their dong into their orifices.

I understand that. That's why when she told me that she is an anal virgin, I said that I understood. I am not really gung-ho on the idea of having anal sex to begin with because I've got girth. I just want to hang out with her, make out and do other sexual things with her.

I'm a dude too, so I understand the annoying parts of femininity. But that's the tradeoff we make. If you don't actually enjoy the time spent and it's not worth it to facilitate you don't have to.

I enjoy the time I had with her. And I wanted to spend more time with her. When she asked me to drop her off at her friend's house, that's an activity that is going to consume about 49 minutes, 35.2km of my time, gas and mileage. Time and gas and mileage (brakes and cars wear down) I'm never going to get back. It takes 20 minutes to drive from her place to her friend's house and then 18 minutes for me to drive back home from there. 11 minutes to her place, which I normally wouldn't mind but just to spend an hour together tops?

The core issue is not that I don't enjoy spending time with her. The core issue is that I think she is trying to use me and doesn't like me as much as I thought she liked me.

You can hire a hooker for a more honest transaction. The sex will probably be better too.

I've been with 14 hookers. The sex is not better. The best sex I've ever had was with my ex-girlfriend, where we were both in love.

But if you want romance, it requires actually caring about a person enough to want to do things for them.

But isn't that supposed to be a two way street? Why is it that a man has to sacrifice for the woman and not vice versa too? My ex, whom I was with for 8.5 months, has not only never hit me up trying to get a ride from me even though she also didn't own a car, but she also always went dutch with me too! She was great. Unfortunately she had BPD and admittedly I was a jerk when we dated (because I swallowed a bit too many black pills. So I wasn't always the sweet boyfriend she needed and I regret breaking her heart) so it didn't work out in the end.

Transwomen were men born so feminine that it was necessary to change their entire identity. That's not a male brain because ours is formed around the masculine aspect of nature. You created some ideal in your head that doesn't exist. If anything, you desire a woman that leans towards the masculine aspect.

My ex, a ciswoman, would often say that she feels that she has a male brain. However she was a girly girl in terms of dress, perfume, makeup, sexuality. She was my fantasy. It's been so hard to find someone else like her. She was like no other woman I met. So much was going right with us. But I was inexperienced with romance at the time and fucked up. And she has BPD. So it didn't work out.

But even then, do you expect to never do anything for others at all? No one is forcing you to be a chauffeur or pay anyone's bills. You have free will. If you do something, do it because you want to.

I want an equal partnership. Or at least something close to that. But women think they are entitled to more than 50-50. I had a true 50-50 partnership with my ex. She never expected to bum a ride off me after 8.5 months of a relationship even though she didn't own a car. She went dutch with me. She bought me gifts too. I loved her.

[–]Ambassadior 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I enjoy the time I had with her. And I wanted to spend more time with her.

So you didn't lose anything if you enjoyed it. I enjoy watching films, the cost it takes me to drive to the theater, pay the ticket, and buy popcorn doesn't mean the directors "used" me as a consumer, I did it because I chose to. They created something I wanted to experience, similar to how women create a body and personality we as men want to experience.

When she asked me to drop her off at her friend's house, that's an activity that is going to consume about 49 minutes, 35.2km of my time, gas and mileage. Time and gas and mileage (brakes and cars wear down) I'm never going to get back. It takes 20 minutes to drive from her place to her friend's house and then 18 minutes for me to drive back home from there. 11 minutes to her place, which I normally wouldn't mind but just to spend an hour together tops?

If it's not worth it you don't have to do any of this. Just don't. But don't lambast other guys for thinking it is worth it to them.

The core issue is not that I don't enjoy spending time with her. The core issue is that I think she is trying to use me and doesn't like me as much as I thought she liked me.

If you enjoy the time spent how is that using you? Again, you have free will. If you don't want to do those things you don't have to.

I've been with 14 hookers. The sex is not better. The best sex I've ever had was with my ex-girlfriend, where we were both in love.

Either you need better hookers or better girlfriends. In time you can find them.

But isn't that supposed to be a two way street? Why is it that a man has to sacrifice for the woman and not vice versa too?

A man doesn't have to do anything for woman, they are motivated to make those sacfrices. That's what makes us masculine.

My ex, whom I was with for 8.5 months, has not only never hit me up trying to get a ride from me even though she also didn't own a car, but she also always went dutch with me too! She was great. Unfortunately she had BPD and admittedly I was a jerk when we dated (because I swallowed a bit too many black pills. So I wasn't always the sweet boyfriend she needed and I regret breaking her heart) so it didn't work out in the end.

That's awesome and I'm sorry it didn't work out but isn't it proof that women like that exist? You found one and you're bound to find another in time.

She was my fantasy. It's been so hard to find someone else like her. She was like no other woman I met. So much was going right with us.

You can find another brother. I don't know enough as to whether you should go back to her or search but there are other possibilities out there.

I want an equal partnership.

Nothing wrong with wanting this but you yourself need to be desirable enough to incite that behavior as much as women do unto us as guys.

But women think they are entitled to more than 50-50.

Men are competing for women, so we bid up through effort on containing relationships. It's not women's fault that men are willing to. But you never have to participate unless you want to.

It's easy to get lost in blackpills if your focused on the big picture, all you really need to focus on is your individual relationships.

[–]IHateNormis 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, they are not

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Damn can you put a TL,DR?

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

TL;DR: Met a CD off Bumble. First Date went well. We went to second base in my car. She hits me up Wednesday asking if I can give her a ride to her friend's house for 6pm. I was going to swing over to her apartment after she was done work. But this would only leave us an hour before having to take her to her friend's house. So I wanted a raincheck. She agreed. Then I never heard from her again nearly 4 full days later.

Male thirst is so bad in 2022 that even transgirls and CDs are using simps as personal chauffeurs and for free meals, gifts, paying bills, etc.

[–]Wide-Illustrator29061 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Your correct about male thirst being the cause of hypergamy but I don't really see a solution other than some libido killing medication or a event that reduces the mae population worldwide. As for the transgirl, I think you blew it. You paying for the date and driving to see her was a test to know if you're interested in more than just sex. In reality, most men only deal with transwomen on a strictly sexual level so when they say they are cautious of men using them they are telling the truth. Although the part about moving in together is a red flag, more than likely you're more than likely the first guy to show any interest in anything other than sex. If you would have driven her you probably would've hooked up that day but maybe that's not what you wanted sub consciously. You sound like you are still unsure of your sexuality, as a straight it's not something I can relate to but I think you should definitely figure out if this is what you really want before you waste your or someone else's time.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your correct about male thirst being the cause of hypergamy but I don't really see a solution other than some libido killing medication or a event that reduces the mae population worldwide.

Unfortunately that might be it. When I got my T levels checked out in my late 20s, my T levels were very low. 90 year old man levels according to my endocrinologist. However back then I was an estrogenic sedentary office wage cuck who was overweight, 160+ lbs (at one point almost 180 and I'm 5'6") and a high percentage of body fat. Now that I'm around 140 lbs and 14-15% body fat, in the gym lifting weights 3-4x a week, my T levels might be higher now. I think my libido/sex drive is very low for a man. It's been over a week since I've had a nut and I feel fine in terms of sexual frustration. I just feel like a very lonely oxytocin-deprived sadboy. So I guess it's just easy for me to say that men should lower their standards. Because maybe I don't desire sex as much as most men.

I've always felt that sex and pussy was over-rated until my first serious gf seduced me on the second date. I could see in her eyes that she was so into me and kissing her and holding her and grabbing her ass felt so right. Only two women have only ever made me feel like that (love) before. And I've been with 9 women sexually (10 if you include the transgirl) and 14 hookers. I kept going to bed with women, including hookers, hoping that they would recreate the lightning in the bottle experience I had with the two women I loved and it's not the same. And my second serious gf made me fall in love the hardest.

As for the transgirl, I think you blew it. You paying for the date and driving to see her was a test to know if you're interested in more than just sex. In reality, most men only deal with transwomen on a strictly sexual level so when they say they are cautious of men using them they are telling the truth. Although the part about moving in together is a red flag, more than likely you're more than likely the first guy to show any interest in anything other than sex.

I was interested in her more than just sex. On our date she even said that the way I look at her it's as if I'm falling in love with her. If I'm being honest with myself, I was smitten with her. It wasn't love. It's too early for that anyways. But I definitely liked her. That's why I didn't fight with her when she told me that she didn't have cash and I paid for her. Why I didn't hit her up for gas money. I thought she was into me. A part of me felt scared by her commitment talk because I feel like her ceiling with me is to rank #3 among the girls I've been with. I've only truly loved two women (both cis). I don't think I can ever commit to her 100% and give up vagina. It's really something when you're in love with a woman and pound the shit out of her pussy, kissing her, biting her, being bitten, pulsating inside of her. And cuddling with her afterwards and being bathed in oxytocin. I don't think the CD can ever make me feel the way my ex made me feel.

If you would have driven her you probably would've hooked up that day but maybe that's not what you wanted sub consciously.

I know *I want her*. The problem is that I feel like she doesn't want me. I know we moved fast going to second base on the first date. But it still feels kinda fucked up that she expects me to drop her off at her friend's house while leaving us with only an hour together prior at her apartment. I feel like she's just trying to use me. I'm not her personal chauffeur. It takes time and gas. It's 20 mins highway driving to her friend's house and then 18 mins for me to drive home in addition to the 11 mins to her apartment. That's 49 mins, 35.2 km of driving. I'm not an Uber. My ex never made such requests of me like that and we dated for 8.5 months.

You sound like you are still unsure of your sexuality, as a straight it's not something I can relate to but I think you should definitely figure out if this is what you really want before you waste your or someone else's time.

How can I really know about my sexuality until I try it though? This involves involving another person. Hell I was so deep into black pill and MGTOW when I met who would become my first serious gf that when I fell in love with her, it caught me off-guard. And then after her I swore that I would never fall in love again and then I fell in love yet again! I used to be a 100% pure misogynist who saw dating as purely transactional. Now I feel like I'm some sort of hybrid between black and blue pill. Because I feel like love is the most important thing in life and find casual sex to be empty. But women keep disappointing me.

After our date I envisioned this future in my head where either my ex hits me up and then I leave the CD for my ex. Or I leave her for another ciswoman that makes me feel the way my ex made me feel. And then end up breaking the CD's heart. Sexuality and romance is a messy thing. I think I'm predominately heterosexual. But I can still have romantic feelings for transwomen and CDs. It just might not be at the level that I have for a ciswoman that makes me go crazy. Like my ex. I know 100% in my heart that if my ex hit me up with "I miss you", I would go back to her in an instant. She made me feel things that no one has ever made me feel before.

[–]brightglowup1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I've been so fed up with the hypergamy among women on dating apps.

It's this simplistic, immature, refusal to accept reality that's slightly irritating whenever I stop and try to take male issues seriously.

Considering all the downsides that come with intermingling with inadequate men, on what planet is it rational to throw tantrums about any sentient being aiming for the best she or he can get?

it is not rational. Then you select a gamified version of natural selection and spiral

For what? All these diatribes for what?

Men, we need to level up, we need to collectively set some standards and stop boosting the egos of these females.

By virtue of witnessing yall unravel for simple realities like this, our ego is boosted bc it announces how poorly equipped you are for life as an adult. The world is a cold place and all the weak ends up crushed. All. These bratty tantrums suggest you're in trouble. Find another way.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Saying I need to mature. From a pink piller who expects men to take care of her like she's some sort of child. As if women aren't grown and can't earn their own money in 2022.

[–]IHateNormis 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Read the first three lines, you are probably gay

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's so classic how conservatives are like "you're gay bro" while the liberals are like "you're a bigot for focusing on her being trans so much! transwomen are women! You aren't sufficiently woke to date transwomen." If I get polarized reactions from both sides, I think I'm doing something right. I wish wokescold liberals would just shut the fuck up. I expect the bigotry from the conservatives. I have a higher expectation of liberals because they are supposed to be the open-minded ones. Not the puritans. Bisexuality is a thing. Straight and gay are not binary. They exist on a spectrum as well. On the Kinsey Scale I think I am predominately heterosexual. But I don't think it's 100% straight if an effeminate Asian man in makeup, long hair, a dress, shaved legs and perfume can get me hard. I'm cool with that. I was in a relationship with a Chinese girl for nearly 2 years who had like no sex appeal. And tbh I like the Asian crossdressers and transwomen more. They put in more effort to look and smell good. Unfortunately they have just as much ego as ciswomen these days from my experience.

I find the sanctimonious bullshit from liberals very annoying though. Since I consider myself a liberal. But I can't relate to a lot of the liberals that I see on reddit in 2022. For me liberalism is about live and let live. And universal health care and social safety nets and that type of shit. Not this woke bullshit that is a distraction from the more serious issues harming the poor like inflation.

[–]IHateNormis 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wanting to have sex with men as a male is gay, nothing to do with politics

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wanting to have sex with men as a male is gay, nothing to do with politics

I also want to have sex with women too. And have. And enjoyed it very much with a couple women in particular. Sexuality is not binary straight or gay. There are shades in between.

[–]BumblingBeta 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm confused - does she look and sound exactly like a woman, but with a penis? Or is she a man dressing as a woman?

I also get liked by trans women on normal dating apps. But they look exactly like men, just dressed as women (and presumably with male appendage), and I'm not attracted to that.

Do you think I should use Grindr as a straight guy? Would I get anything decent from it? Obviously I would ignore the men, because I'm straight.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm confused - does she look and sound exactly like a woman, but with a penis? Or is she a man dressing as a woman?

She looks like a woman. She's a passing crossdresser. She wears makeup, has long hair, wears women's clothes, shaves her legs and body hair, wears perfume. Has a penis. Her voice is feminine but it kind of is like a gay bottom's voice I guess. Since she is not on estrogen. No breasts because she's not on estrogen. But her voice didn't bother me even once and I've liked small titty girls too. My preference is for a woman with a big rack, big ass and a slim waist. But that's like winning the lottery.

I haven't had any luck on Grindr yet with transwomen and CDs. Though It's not like I have been putting a lot of effort on Grindr. The thing too is that a lot of TS/CD girls are into casual sex. And I'm not about that. Which is why I am sad it didn't work out with the CD admittedly. Because she is into affection and romance like I am. And her apartment is 11 minutes away. Either she was trying to use me by trying to bum a ride off me. Or maybe she thinks I don't care about her because I didn't want to give her a ride to her friend's house. Since she seemed more emotionally invested than typical for a first date. Admittedly I was emotionally invested to a degree too. Which is why it sucks that I got ghosted after I didn't want to be her taxi/personal chauffeur.

Mentally it throws me for a loop that I am feeling shitty after being ghosted by what is essentially an Asian incel. lol. I'm not into effeminate Asian dudes like keshi (Vietnamese-American) or the K-Pop/J-Pop guys. I only appreciate these guys on an aesthetic level. But when effeminate Asian men get into cross dressing, especially if they hop on estrogen, it turns me on if it suits them. Most of the transwomen and CDs I've been sexually attracted to are Asian. One was latino.

[–]RStonePTRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hypergamy is the the default instinctive feminine behaviour. Men don't create it anymore than women create testosterone.

[–]anon080anon 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Hey there! I enjoyed the story and I think I can understand your reasoning for such a rant but you def need a larger sample size than just her to make conclusions for sure! After all, I'm a passable CD in Alberta and I'm pretty sure that 100% of the time if I was given the option, I'd always choose an uncomplicated, no-strings-attached dick-down from a nice looking cock over any kind of ride, meal, gift or shit! So, yeah, this girl is hardly representative. Honestly, to be a bit blunt, I think overall you need to be a bit more critical of who you choose for your affections because this bitch had manipulative written all over her from the start and I think you just conveniently overlooked it. Here are some comments from a CD point of view:

on Bumble back in late June. She must not have logged in until recently because she matched with me last Saturday (the 6th)

No, it means she had a list of hotter guys that took priority over you and you didn't even rank high enough on her sub-conscious fuckability list to prompt a reply at the time. Further reinforced by her delayed response to your body pic later on (what a shitty thing to do) with a generic compliment and no specifics. That should have been your first flag that she's maybe not as attracted to you as you are to her and then wonder what she's after. I personally think you had something in your profile pics that suggested money or status or authority that caught her eye. So, rather than a legit attraction to your looks/body (as suggested by delayed responses), I think she's trying to play a part toward egging on a sugar daddy type dynamic or something. Such a scam would start from various framings of conversations depending on how subtle she is ranging from where she plays the part of a damsel in distress (all sorts of trials and tribulations and the world is against her etc etc), but also having ones that highlight her value to you and why she would be unique and special, to ones that casts you as a protector guardian type and focus on traits of strength, courage noble obligation, masculinity, that kind of thing. Am I right? Has this been your kind of dynamic? a daddy-daddy's little girl kinda thing?

"Hiii"...just something in her eyes and expression in her pics

Everything about her visual appearance, from posture to angle to lighting, literally everything in her pics has been carefully and artificially planned, choreographed and edited, including her eyes and expression. She likely took dozens of others before selecting that one. So, nothing about her pics should be used as a basis of her true personality. It's all fake.. lots of hard work and skillz behind it..but still fake. But really though "Hiii"? Guys that message me that are usually just auto ignore unless accompanied by a pic of a cock/face/body pic of sufficient hotness

We chatted back and forth a bit but she stopped. I guess she was busy.

No, it's because she got tired of talking to you. You either didn't have a focus for the conversation or you misread cues on what she's interested in and you lost her interest. Or, if it was in the evening, probably hooking up. /speculation/

"I didn't bring cash"

In my opinion, this was less about the money and it was more to train you into the concept of providing for her. A small compromise early on allows for a much easier related bigger compromise later on because there's precedent for it, if that makes sense? She must have been hot af to try and pull this shit on the first day though. I mean, even though the vendors only accepted cash, they probably all knew where the nearest atm was located and in the organization of the festival, that would have been a key consideration as well in order to get ppl to keep spending money.

she was already talking about the future. Like how she wants to move in together eventually. And how men use her for sex. And I'm just at the point where I don't know how far I want this to go.

Honestly, she seems kind of delusional and living in a separate reality of her own. As if such a thing is so easy - all the awkward conversations with family and friends that would need to happen. And you seem like you're well off and conservative too so those make acceptance alot more difficult. Not to mention you probably would need to think about your work relationships and all the various contacts that might equate your relationship to becoming unreliable, which is irrational but plausible. For her to assume all these things means she hasnt really given it much thought and probably at the time already believed you and her to be 'cast in the parts' so to speak. Is she one of those types that are obsessed with like disney or a certain tv series or a book or something? I feel like she's either playing a character or just dumb.

someone with a Y Chromosome and I liked it so I guess I'm bi.

No you're still straight - if you're only attracted to female features and not male, that's usually considered straight by most ppl I think, though I think it should be more of like a spectrum imo. If you're still trying to make sense of things, I think in many respects, our brain is just a machine, picking up and processing signals accordingly. At the time, your brain was perceiving various feminine signals like smooth clear skin, plump red lip, rosy cheeks, an expressive gaze, etc which the standard programming over evolutionary time has interpreted as a healthy, well-nourished mate and thereby warranted sexual attraction if you're a straight male. But standard programming ain't got shit on the transformative powers of modern day make-up, a CD exploit, and so it glitches out with the sexual attraction bit. But really though, so what if it does? I mean, I could be wrong but I think your current overarching objective atm is less about procreating and moreso about having enjoyable sex with someone with decently attractive enough feminine features, maybe with a bit of mushy stuff here and there so you can feel more connected and less lonely. And I mean, if the makeup tomfoolery gets that done for you despite it being an illusion, then why not? No one else is gonna know about it anyways.

Men, we need to level up, we need to collectively set some standards and stop boosting the egos of these females. It's getting to the point where even transgirls and CDs are developing egos

Lol, if this hypothetically happened and straight guys unionized, do you know what CDs would do? They'd probably take off their wigs and makeup and return to guy mode so that they can source cock from gay tops 😂

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

As a passable CD, I'm curious, were you living as a gay man prior to becoming a CD? And have you noticed that your sexual market value and dating market value improved after you became a passable CD?

Because personally on Grindr I find that I get an ungodly amount of attention from cis men. But I find that passing transwomen on hormones and passing CDs overwhelmingly do not reply to my messages and especially do not initiate conversation with me. Or eventually lose interest. You know the CD in the OP? I did hook up with her one more time until I got the slow fade. And then I hooked up with a passing Asian transwoman on hormones 5 times before she slow faded and ghosted me.

The Asian ts girl on HRT actually initiated contact with me on Grindr. And she was very eager for me in the beginning. Very thirsty. We had a great whirlwind romance over 2 weeks (5 hookups). She looked at me with this hunger in her eyes. She called me hot, sexy, cute. She was very sweet with me. When I had an anxiety attack on our third date, she held my hand and cuddled and kissed me. I felt like she cared about me. Only for her to ghost me later. That was the first time I ever developed romantic feelings for someone with a Y Chromosome. And the first time I sucked a dick.

And I'm a fit dude with a handsome face and look young for my age (37). And both the CD and TS girl were overweight. In fact the TS girl on HRT may have even been obese. I'm talking like 5'5" maybe 180. She was a side too with me. She was afraid to try anal because of my girth. But we had electric sexual chemistry and I liked her as a person. I feel like I liked her more as a human being than the ciswomen I've dated. Until she just lost interest out of nowhere then slow faded and ghosted me. Then she didn't seem like such a nice human being then!

I'm 5'6" 135 lbs currently. Have six-pack abs (though I'm not as cut as when I went down to 127.45 lbs back in late September) and put on some muscle recently. I joined a gym mid-July and had since lifted weights regularly. I was a little fatter when I went on dates with the CD (133.6-143.8 lbs). With my weight skewing fatter the first time I met her in early August. And leaner when I met her in late August and early September. When I was seeing the transwoman on hormones, I was leaner (130.6-133.6 lbs). Skewing a little fatter and little more muscular the first date. And a little leaner and less muscular the last date.

Meanwhile I get fit pretty Asian boy bottoms/vers bottoms wanting to suck my dick and fuck them up the ass on Grindr. They hit on me and creep my profile relentlessly. But I'm not into cis men. Though given how difficult it is to get the attention of even TS girls and CDs (passable) and especially ciswomen (though I hooked up with a ciswoman recently several times and broke my 2 year ciswoman cold streak. I used to be an overweight temporary incel at like 160+ lbs), I have been thinking about hooking up with one of the local pretty Asian guys on Grindr just to try it. They are prettier than the non-passing CDs and Tgirls so I figure why not.

Maybe it is true that the CD was getting hotter guys in her DMs and hooking up with them. But I really don't get it. She was fat. And in her IG and Tik Tok, she looked amazing. But in real life she didn't look as good as her pics. And looked fatter than her pics because of the flattering angles on Tik Tok/IG. And maybe filters make you less fat too. Conventionally, I'm far more attractive than her. And the pretty Asian gay/bi boys who like me are more conventionally attractive than her.

I think it really comes down to male thirst relative to female thirst and TS girls and CDs have been able to game this market discrepancy. There are a lot of straight men who are attracted to the feminine who are fooled by TS girls and CDs with makeup and filters who hook up with TS girls and CDs who wouldn't bring themselves to hook up with a fem cis man. And TS girls and CDs are exploiting this. My options would open up waaaaaaaay more if I opened my field up to fem cis men. I get lots of masc bottoms/vers bottoms hitting on me too. And if I was a vers, my options would open up even more. But I would get lots of action just from fems bottoms/vers bottom alone.

[–]anon080anon 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

As a passable CD, I'm curious, were you living as a gay man prior to becoming a CD? And have you noticed that your sexual market value and dating market value improved after you became a passable CD?

Yes, I started crossdressing around the end of August this summer. Before that I was and currently still am a gay masc vers cis guy that likes gay sex. I only CD for sex, but I go full throttle and am a bit of a perfectionist. Outside of that, I'm not turned on by lingerie or have any desire to be more feminine in interests, behaviors or lifestyle. Yes, my sexual market value and dating market value have substantially improved since I started, the shift being noticeably evident from the very first week. That was back when I was so shit at makeup and hair that I looked like the well girl from the ring, a hairy one. lol. But nonetheless, straight/bi decent looking guys still messaged me, interested in hooking up. It was bizarre but hooking up was way easier. I think after reaching passability, I'd objectively consider myself a 7 in hetero girl world but despite that, straight guys that I'd consider 9s or 10s- (military guys, hockey players, bartenders, guys with hollywood looks) would hit me up off either grindr or doublelist.

Because personally on Grindr I find that I get an ungodly amount of attention from cis men.

Yes, this was a shocking revelation that no one talks about. Grindr is used a shit ton by straight and bi guys looking to hook up with CD's/trans. A shit ton. As a CD, I've never had to initiate a conversation on grindr - literally 5 minutes after logging onto the app with a blurred out face pic, I'll receive 20 messages and a good chunk of str8/bi hotties that are just dtf and fine with coming over rn. This is true for anytime 24/7 whether it's during work hours or 3am in the morning. Having on-demand hot sex with attractive dtf straight guys will definitely be the hardest thing for me to give up when giving up crossdressing.

Regarding TS/CD girls on HRT losing interest in you, cant really conclude anything about you really because it's very possible their libido has shifted with the hormone changes.

I'm not sure what your overall question is exactly. Are you asking why you haven't yet found a CD/trans girl that will stick with you long term? um, I dunno, no idea what their reasons were but you're probably at least physically attractive enough for them to consider the possibility, if that helps. Maybe your personality is just annoying or you're bad at sex? or you've got a limp dick that you're not treating with ED pills? I know that if you texted me messages as long as these posts I'd probably consider ghosting you too (counter balanced by how nice your cock is). I feel like you may be leaving out some key information why all these CDs have ghosted you separately. Do you text them too often and unnecessarily ("just to say hi"? Do you text at weird times like 6am? Do you leave 30+ messages in a short time period. Are you coming across as desperate? Who knows.

I have one or two suggestions though. You mentioned 1) panic attacks/anxiety disorders ( maybe a wonky dopamine or cortisol system?) 2) that you were previously an incel (related to depression? low test?) 3) your weight was 160+ lbs and now it's 130 ( can affect your hormones). Also, no offense, but you seem a bit 4) more clingy/hungry for affection than most ppl (related to above anxiety?). So, I'm not a doctor but maybe your hormones/brain chemistry are a bit out of whack for whatever reason and that plays out in certain social interactions like your love life? it's a thing after all - why not ask a doctor and see what he says?

I think it really comes down to male thirst relative to female thirst and TS girls and CDs have been able to game this market discrepancy. There are a lot of straight men who are attracted to the feminine who are fooled by TS girls and CDs with makeup and filters

No, this isn't right. Straight men aren't 'fooled' at all - overwhelmingly, the guys that come over are completely aware of the situation, my dick and of themselves, nor are CDs used as substitutes for women, at least not all the time. I've asked about this before and it's more correct to describe it as a CD fetish, rather than some displaced attraction, whether it's created from porn or whatever who knows, it's a select actively chosen focus. Otherwise, how could I snag 9s and 10s which presumably have 9s and 10s females available to them already while being a 7 on the hetero female scale? it's because im in a separate 'chick with a dick' category, something they cant have, at least not often given competition and so i dont end up competing directly with females. You yourself demonstrate this based on your 2 year hetero female cold streak where your attraction is specifically cd/trans focused and not chosen in lieu of the former.

My options would open up waaaaaaaay more if I opened my field up to fem cis men. I get lots of masc bottoms/vers bottoms hitting on me too. And if I was a vers, my options would open up even more. But I would get lots of action just from fems bottoms/vers bottom alone.

That doesn't make sense at all considering you're not attracted to male features. And even if you did, if the main issue that causes your dates to ghost you after a while happens to stem from you, which it likely does, then there's no reason that it wouldnt apply to your new field of sex partners as well

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And even if you did, if the main issue that causes your dates to ghost you after a while happens to stem from you, which it likely does, then there's no reason that it wouldnt apply to your new field of sex partners as well

It's because the chaser:passable TS/CD ratio is way above 1:1. As you have noticed. So I imagine that transwomen/CDs are far more likely to ghost me than cis men would. Considering that in the gay/bi pool, we're all part of the same pool. It's a 1:1 game. A hot pretty boy twink like me is in high demand on Grindr among men. But I face stiff competition in the TS/CD pool because there's a shortage of passable TS/CDs and a large number of straight/bi men who are interested in them.

Assuming that the last transgirl I saw is getting attention from hotter guys than me, then I can understand why she would ghost me eventually. Though I have no idea what the real reason is. She never told me. She just gave me a bullshit excuse about how she's busy with work when I asked her back in late September why her interest appeared to wane (she stopped initiating conversations with me ever since the day after our fifth "date", which ended up being our last date. Up until then she had been initiating most conversations with me and texting me every day). And then when I followed up with her 9 days later, she stopped replying to me altogether.

The irony though is that the TS girl on HRT who ghosted me was creeping my Grindr profile on Tuesday, two weeks after I last tried reaching out to her (where she left me on read). So I don't know what her deal is. She's at the very least thinking about me. I think about her often, wondering why she ghosted me. She was super, super into me before and I caught feelings for her.

It sounds like you're mostly focused on casual sex. Me and the TS girl agreed to be FWBs at first. But we were moving more into romance. In our last conversation, she said that she thought that I wasn't serious about her and that we mostly just hooked up. But I treated her to a couple dates near the end of our fling. And I'm the one with autism, she doesn't have autism. It should have been pretty obvious to her that I liked her.

When I reached out to her 9 days later (when she ghosted me 100% this time) I made it clear that I did get emotionally entangled with her after she held my hand and comforted me after I had that anxiety attack on our third "date." She even removed the "Right Now" on her Grindr profile (after she creeped my profile, I took a look at hers) and kept "Relationship" in looking for so that leads me to believe that she isn't into casual sex right now. She posted something on her IG the same day I last messaged her with the #hopelessromantic hashtag. Not sure if she posted that before or after I messaged her that day. And then she mentioned something about falling in love on IG a week after. So I wondered if she had a new boyfriend. But then she was active on Grindr at the time and then creeped my profile a week later. I don't know what she's thinking.

It looks like she is looking for a relationship. Yet she says we mostly hooked up. When I made it crystal clear that I was interested in being more than FWBs. It sucks that she went from being super eager for me to ghosting me without an explanation after five dates. I liked her. And now it feels like the woman that I liked didn't exist. I liked what I thought she was. I didn't like the real her. Would someone that I like be so inconsiderate to not even tell me why they lost interest after we slept with each other and met up 5 times?

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