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"men age like fine wine women hit the wall at 24"

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February 22, 2023
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Title "men age like fine wine women hit the wall at 24"
Author iliyb
Upvotes 19
Comments 64
Date February 22, 2023 11:09 AM UTC (1 month ago)
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[–]carpetfoodie 12 points13 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Hair is life If you have no Hair You have no life

-St.Hamudi (PBUH)

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

I've shaved my head bald since I was 17. Luscious head of hair. So after many years I can say it's bullshit.

[–]carpetfoodie 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

What?

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I have had my head shaved like I've got no hair my entire life. Does not affect sex or dating.

[–]inkvell3431 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, you went from incel to incel 🤭🤭🤭

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that checks out too.

[–]carpetfoodie 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good for you. But the bald look is not for everyone

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree. So let's both not generalise huh?

[–]upalseBogPill 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 7 points8 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

Men do age terribly. The best looksmaxx you can do as a male beyond leanmaxxing is to minimize ageing.

You can do this by eating a diet rich in cholesterol, micro nutrients and saturated animal fats. Avoid fibre, its a total scam that puts stress on your body. For the same reason avoid rigorous excersize, drugs like caffeine, anything that stresses the body.

This is pretty much what you should be doing to feel good and be healthy anyways.

[–]infinitofluxo 1 point2 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

How can you feel good if we can't defecate well without fiber? I get clogged immediately when I eat a lot of animal protein and low fiber.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

The very idea and functionality of plant bulk/fiber in the gut is a new concept created in the 20th century. The mechanims and outcomes described as healthy is faux speculation as theres not a single case of animals doing this in nature. No animal needs fibre to defecate, and neither do you. Human is an animal like any other (according to evolution and according to Darwin.)

When you eat fibre, the intestinal lining in your gut secretes a mucus and hurries along the chyme (food) through the ileum. It wants to get rid of the fibre, so therefore it makes you go sooner. But in healthy body, stressing and manipulating your body to defacate isn't necessary nor healthy. It has been documented that people need to adapt to a high fiber diet before the stomach is adjusted to it. Same should also be true in reverse, currently you aren't adapted to it.

Maybe I shouldn't stray too far off topic though, this sub is meant for discussion about dating and relationships, not diet.

[–]Mydragonurdungeon 2 points3 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

No animals eat fiber?

What the fuck?

Most animals eat food that is extremely high in fiber like herbivores. Straight tripping dude

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Ah, but its different you see. To a herbivore cellulose isnt fibre. Let me explain.

When Herbivores eat cellulose (what we regard as fibre) they ferment this polysackaride internally and turn it into simpler sugars. They eat fibrous plant bulk and turn it into a macronutrient. They do this in a fermentation chamber, something humans dont have. Some herbivores are hindgut fermenters, some are ruminent. But what they all have in common is their miraculous ability to turn plant bulk into animal nutrient.

When a human eats cellulose, we call it fibre and something that helps the gut push everything along. This concept is entirely man-made. No animal in nature eats fibre and cellulose for this purpose. When a herbivore eats what we regard as fibre, they're actually eating sugar. Does that make sense?

So yeah, no animal eats 'fibre'.

[–]GenderNeutralBot -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Mydragonurdungeon 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What you're doing here is a weird twist of language where because they don't ONLY use it to move their bowels they aren't eating fiber.

But yes they are, they just ALSO get sugar out of it. They are still excreting it out of their bodies and it is still fibrous therefore, it's still producing the effect of helping move their bowels, they just get sugar from it as well.

[–]Lyzard96PurplePill 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Lmao this is pseudoscience.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Darwin isnt pseudoscience as far as I know. Darwin states that human is an animal like any other. Our sexual selection fill the very same evolutionary purpose as all other critters on this earth, we arent separate ethereal beings created by god/sent by aliens or whatever. So therefore im blackpilled on sex and dating.

Same goes for health and diet. Give an example of some animals that intentionally eat indigestible plant fibers as a means to defacate and im on board. Alternatively give a reason for why the human gastrointernal tract is so very different than all other life on earth. Personally I dont find either of them very likely, but you are more than welcome to try.

[–]Lyzard96PurplePill 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

.... dogs.

They eat grass when they have an upset stomach.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Dogs eating grass is something thats not necessarily healthy nor ideal. It is generally known that dogs eat grass in attempt to throw up, they have no fingers they can stick into their throat to cause vomiting, so instead they try to do it by eating grass. This is a completely different mechanism than that of dietary fiber as we dont eat fiber to throw up.

[–]Lyzard96PurplePill 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

https://youtu.be/SEh2Ob5djLQ

[–]chrometomydome 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you have any sources for the fibre/exercise points? Stressing the body makes sense, but I'd like to read more if possible.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool that you showed interest, but I don't have sources of fiber causing premature ageing per sé. But its known that stressors will age the body, and fiber does seem like one. So yes, its a theory, from a random internet user, not very compelling Im aware.

The thing is though, that the fiber theory is completely unproven too. Theres zero data to suggest it helps in any way with constipation. And it does go against the ideas put forward by darwin, funnily enough. The fiber hypthesis was coined in the middle of the 20th century. Its still very much an experiment. Do you want to follow the wisdom of your ancestors and Darwin, or modern day scientists? Either way is fine because both sides are largely unproven.

I saw this video yesterday and it briefly mentioned how fiber causes stress. Its widely known that fibre cause bowel irritation. Even if the man made theories sorrounding fiber were legit I still wouldnt say dietary fiber is worth it.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When people say men peak in thier 30's, they are not talking about looks.

They're talking about men's ability to be a provider.

[–]Opening_Pattern_301GloriousPill 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How common is this with men at 24?

[–]OberOst 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very uncommon. It's as common as having a four inch erect penis.

[–]EviessVeralan 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

"Men age like wine" is a cope. Men have a slower decline.

[–]BitsAndBobs304 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

men acquire money, power , fame with age

[–]EviessVeralan 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Fame and money can attract for the wrong reasons. Theres plenty of women who would go for rich dudes because they want the money even if theyre not even remotely attracted to him. If you want a woman who genuinely want to fuck you then theres a time limit for 99.99% of men.

[–]BitsAndBobs304 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

As opposed to what quality that will not attract "for the wrong reasons"?

[–]EviessVeralan 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Being hot will make people want to fuck you money wont.

[–]LainselBluePill 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

80% of men are largely invisible to women to begin with so getting wrinkles and losing hair means nothing for our SMV when it was at a 0 anyway. The only good thing about growing old as a male is you're more likely to have more resources than you had in your 20s. And I mean, a 50 year old millionaire can regularly have sex with beautiful women half his age for money

[–]EviessVeralan 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

80% of men are largely invisible to women

This stat comes from dating apps that are overwhelmingly male. If straight men choose to try to find a woman on a male majority app this is reflective of their decision making skills and not on women.

And I mean, a 50 year old millionaire can regularly have sex with beautiful women half his age for money

While this is true lots of men here actively complain about having to pay for sex

[–]LainselBluePill 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This stat comes from dating apps that are overwhelmingly male. If straight men choose to try to find a woman on a male majority app this is reflective of their decision making skills and not on women

True, but the recent stats show that most young men are actually single and most young women aren't so 80/20 works out irl too. A woman still gets 100s of messages on social media from chads even if she doesn't actually use dating apps

While this is true lots of men here actively complain about having to pay for sex

True but these subs and forums aren't a good representation of all men. The guys who frequent these forums tend to be people going through existential crisises, to romantics who "just want to be loved", to people who want to be the best in the room. Most men tend to lose their sense of morals as they age and realize these things like romance won't happen for them and it was only ever their morals that stopped them from not getting hookers anyway. "Passport bros" are becoming a thing even now which is essentially sex tourism but it's younger guys doing it too now. It's only going to grow too

[–]EviessVeralan 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True, but the recent stats show that most young men are actually single, and most young women aren't, so 80/20 works out irl too.

Do you have any evidence to support the idea that most women are being shared by the Chads? Because every single stat I've ever seen in the subject refutes the idea that polygamy is as common as you're claiming it is.

A woman still gets 100s of messages on social media from chads even if she doesn't actually use dating apps

This is just straight-up false. This is blatant delusion made up by Fresh and Fit style dudes who've never talked to an average woman in their entire lives.

[–]Mydragonurdungeon 1 point2 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

Hair loss is commonly caused by testosterone and just becomes prominent in aging.

Women's obsession with hair is a sign they like neotenous features just like they shame men for having.

Women if you want dudes who look like children ya pedophiles.

(I don't actually believe this but women make this argument about men all the time)

[–]puririnpa 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it's not simple as that, it's also about how sensitive the skin is to hormones, and the hormone isn't even testo, it's DHT that is responsible. this is how you get ''soyboy'' looking bald dudes and ''high t'' looking masculine guys with full head of hair.

Testo peaks between 20-30 in guys btw, so testo isn't the only reason people bald.

there are even racial differences with balding with euros/sands/caucasoids balding the most and asians/amerindians/mongoloids balding the least, despite racial difference in hormones not even properly found.

and the problem is older men or bald men being forced onto teen and early 20's girls, no one cares what +30 women date.

[–]iliyb[S] 0 points1 point  (21 children) | Copy Link

Arguments like what?

[–]Mydragonurdungeon 1 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

That men liking young looking women means they are pedophiles.

Yet they get the ick from perfectly natural biological functions like testosterone causing hair loss with age.

If they weren't pedos they would be attracted to bald men.

[–]puririnpa 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

it's DHT, there are low t balding guys and high t not balding guys, hair type also plays a role.

[–]Mydragonurdungeon 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Testosterone and dht are intrinsically linked. You're more likely to be bald with high t.

[–]puririnpa 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

not always, again there are ''soft'' looking men with bald head and ''high t'' or sharp looking men with full head of hair.

testo levels peak between 20-30 anyway, so the hormone levels aren't the only reason.

[–]Mydragonurdungeon 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Exceptions don't disprove the rule.

[–]puririnpa 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

if t levels were only reason, then men would bald at 21 instead of 40, because young dudes have higher t levels then their +35 selves typically

[–]Mydragonurdungeon -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Again, EXCEPTIONS DON'T DISPROVE THE RULE.

I didn't say it was the ONLY reason just that it was the MAIN reason.

[–]puririnpa 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

what i'm saying isn't ''expection'' men typicallly have higher t at 22 than 35, but men bald more at 35.

that being said, i think it's more interesting that ''race'' of all things effects when you bald or not.

[–]iliyb[S] 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

Losing hair could mean all sorts of things. He could have a normal levels of testosterone or he could be dying from disease you really never knew in the wild so women just developed a natural ick for men who were balding.

[–]Mydragonurdungeon 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

Just like wrinkles and shriveled ovaries could but that doesn't mean much to the women crying pedo at men who prefer young looking women does it?

[–]puririnpa 2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

wrinklig usually doesn't happen at 30's, even among females.

[–]Mydragonurdungeon 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

You begin to get crows feet around that time actually, maybe a little earlier

[–]puririnpa 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

honestly not really, especially for non caucasoid women.

but to be fair, a difference is you usually don't hear older women whining about having to date their own age, you mostly see older men doing this.

[–]Mydragonurdungeon 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

No you hear older women complain men don't have the features of young men.

Women love to virtue signal

[–]puririnpa 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

older women could hook up and date with younger men or even underage boys at a higher rate than men could doo if they had the desire or tendencies, yet they do this significantly less, tells you something.

[–]Grapestheanswer -4 points-3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Yes women get everything, women have everything, dopamine trillionaires, better educations, better work, better lives, longer lives, better aging

WOMEN FUCKING HAVE EVERYTHING

MEN FUCKING HAVE NOTHING

WHAT THE FUCK MORE DO YOU WANT TO TAKE FROM MEN AT THIS POINT BEFORE YOU WILL BE HAPPY

WHAT IS LEFT TO GIVE YOU

ANYTHING LEFT??

FUCKING ANSWER ME

[–]Background_Beach618 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Bro please please don't go insane because of the blackpill

Your genetics isn't your fault. All you can do is accept and move on tbh. Seething is not gonna help

[–]Last-Post20851 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Very true! Acceptance is the first stage in fixing yourself. And besides, when you realise it isn't your fault you can feel better about the world. There are things you can fix and things you can't.

[–]Background_Beach618 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It took me a long time to not blame myself for my subhuman genetics. I think I've almost fully come to terms with it

[–]Grapestheanswer 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Is the blackpill about gynocentrism?

[–]Background_Beach618 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not really but they're related imo.

Regardless, my point still stands. Stay sane buddy boyo

[–]Grapestheanswer 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If the sick satanic society's gynocentrism doesn't bother you you aren't paying attention 🤷‍♂️

[–]iliyb[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Holy cringe

[–]Grapestheanswer 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Point out which part is a lie

[–]Deneb96 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bruh. Majority of men don't even wash their butt, use spf or even wash their face or hands.

Just go into in a hospital, urology. Almost all men have poop on their butt, age don't matter, before someone says " it's just the 50+ men" , no its not. The medical stuff can tell a lot of stories. Poop on bedsheets etc.

Aging fine means taking care of yourself and also genetics plays a huge role. People with less melanin or collagen age faster.

[–]Romeo_RichBoy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women age better than men, all of history's longest living people were women. This myth is pure bullshit.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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