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Men we need to stop reinstating our preferences against promiscuous women

roseonyxa
October 6, 2022
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I amde this post in purple pill but it got taken down so I am posting in here

Men I don't see the point in keep reinstating your preferences against promiscuous women

Look I also don't want to date promiscuous women but I don't need to justify it through pseudoscience like promiscuous women aren't able to pair bond. Instead we need to actually deconstruct and abolish hook up culture. My issue with red and blue pill is that you can only interpret the world but the point is to change it. But you all think it's a sin to change the world, to created more prosocial humans. But other animals have changed the world and their environment why can't we. Early worms in the Cambrian or Silurian era literally created modern sea floor, plants literally influenced the oxygen content in the atmosphere. Sure individually we cannot do much other live our values but if we worked together we can make a better world. We humans have every right to change the world to better suit ourselves we have been doing this for a long time with agriculture and such. We cannot let the hook up culture win, it may not be causing downfall of society but it sure is correlated with our decaying society.

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Title Men we need to stop reinstating our preferences against promiscuous women
Author roseonyxa
Upvotes 5
Comments 53
Date October 6, 2022 10:35 PM UTC (1 month ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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Comments

[–]SmarmyPapsmears 11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yea honestly idc if women wanna argue about it. You can't argue my ick away.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean?

[–]SmarmyPapsmears 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There's no amount of wordsmithing or arguing or debating that will make me want to date a high n woman.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotcha thanks for clearifying

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or marry her

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't try to repair something you didnt break. Breathe a sigh of relief and let it go. Theres nothing we can do anyways.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You do realize pesemism is the pill they feed us they want us to believe we cannot do anything because they benefit from the status quo. How do we know if we cannot change if we aren't even willing to try?

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no 'they'. There is no hidden agenda.

160 years after Darwin's discovery, people have still not come to terms with the fact that we are animals. Once we realise just how antithetical evil-ution is to our hopes and dreams, our pathetic illusion about “progress” and “improving the world” begins to fade like the mirage it is. We would never have chosen this wretched system, a merciless process of elimination which thrives on ruthless competition and unfairness. Chaos is a feature of this universe, not a bug. Pleasure is a transitory garnish, while suffering is the main course. Once you accept that it can never be changed, that our human needs and desires can never be fulfilled in this hell, anti natalism becomes the only logical path to take.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

promiscuous women are having plenty of fun good for them (except when they spread diseases and we have to pay the price uh oh) and obviously the men who bang them arent gonna stop because we said so

id just rather be alone than with an honest one than with a lying one and id only engage in hookups if i truly felt like there was nothing else worthwhile

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

promiscuous women are having plenty of fun good for them (except when they spread diseases and we have to pay the price uh oh) and obviously the men who bang them arent gonna stop because we said so

I care about the future generations and the media they will be exposed to. I don't care about changing a broken generation.

id just rather be alone than with an honest one than with a lying one and id only engage in hookups if i truly felt like there was nothing else worthwhile

Ok

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

future generations are fairly important yes but we cant help them

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you evidence to back that up?

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

the fact you said this on reddit because you dont have the power to do so

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 4 points5 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Being promiscuous as a man is just as damaging to men as well as women.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly I don't understand why red pillers only focus on women. Who care about promiscuous women we should care about the messages kids are recieving from hook up culture. If kids are told they are incapable of love and forming healthy relationships then they will believe that and make that self fulfilling prophecy true. The minds of kids can be easily manipulated which makes them vulnerable to ideologies that the media pushed onto them.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Being promiscuous as a man is just as damaging to men as well as women.

How damaging to men ? Because other man will get less options?

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

That and it damages his ability to pair-bond. And all that demand put on women will make women raise the effort-price for sex and also relationships.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 -2 points-1 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

That and it damages his ability to pair-bond

That sounds stupid.Other men having less options makes sense

And all that demand put on women will make women raise the effort-price for sex and also relationships.

Isn't women biologically built for this? It is how it always have been.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That sounds stupid.Other men having less options makes sense

Having sex with a bunch of women makes men value sex less and value women less. They'll be more likely to cheat. They'll compare her to his previous partners. Everything men fear promiscuous women will do to men, promiscuous men will do to women.

Isn't women biologically built for this? It is how it always have been.

Bullshit. If women were that overwhelmingly thirsty men would twist them in a knot just as badly. Look at the Chads and how they treat women.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That sounds stupid

its why fuckboys exist you know, ofc a lot of hot guys are gonna love commitment but its much harder to be like that when you are barraged with women one after the other lined up to open their legs for you

[–]Peacesquad -1 points0 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

False

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

It gives them a cheaper view toward sex and it makes them more likely to cheat.

[–]Peacesquad -1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Not at all

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Finally someone said it.I am surprised this dude is saying it affects men.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

"Is not". Wow my two year old used to be like that.

Prove to me that promiscuous men are different from promiscuous women. Show me facts. You can't. The fact is they're the same.

[–]Necessary-Worry1923 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Only a small % of women are promiscous. Only a small fraction of women use Tinder, which explains why 75% of Tinder is male users, majority of women are staying out of OLD. So eliminating hook up culture will only affect a tiny % of women.

Median N for the average American female is around 3 to5.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/promiscuous-america-smart-secular-and-somewhat-less-happy

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, it is impossible to find out how many women are actually promiscuous because women will admittedly lie about their sexual history.

https://www.mid-day.com/lifestyle/relationships/article/Women--lie-about-past-sexual-partners--to-other-half-169156

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-188365/Women-lie-sexual-past.html

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3936-fake-lie-detector-reveals-womens-sex-lies/

Tinder is not a good representation of promiscuity because a woman could download Tinder hookup with 10 guys in 10 days and delete the app. Tinder only rates active users as being actual users on the app, not the people who are inactive and have profiles.

[–]Liberated_Asexual 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, to me it makes intuitive sense with zero understanding of neurochemistry that having sex with several different people very frequently vs. having sex with a select few people exclusively would devalue the subconsciously assigned value to sex in the first place.

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

You can't destroy hookup culture because it's what both men and women the people. Women want access to the top guys for sex at the very least and will only stop when that option is closed off. The top percentile of men want no strings attached sex and will not stop until they've had their fill.

These two facts will always lead to hookup culture. This isn't anything new, girls have always hooked up with the hottest guys, you just didn't know about it. Dating apps just made that information public and enhanced the reach women had too attractive men.

What guys need to do is become the best version of themselves and stop worrying about what other people are doing. If you want low count women you will need to be high value to be able to attract them, especially if you are older than her.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why you got downvotes lol when this is basic knowledge in this sub

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The truth hurts and it's the hardest pill to swallow.

[–]tonyrehmatdemir 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I agree.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is my problem with redpillers is that you the world as stagnant and still when in reality things change. Nothing remains the same forever. So why then is it a sin to change the world. We humans have been changing the world to meet our needs in the past so why is it a sin now. It's not that we cannot change world into better place we certainly can the problem is with rot worshippers (doomers) who say we shouldn't change the world. You reduce everything to just the individual but in reality we are a collectivist species we are social by design. So why can't we work together to make the world better place for the future generation. So what if our generation is screwed we owe it to the future ones to make life better for them. I am not concerned about promiscuous women I am concerned about the kinds of media that kids are exposed to. Literally I saw a movie about this dude trying to cheat on his wife and his friend says he should stop seeking ltr and go for casual sex and admits himself that he doesn't care about the feeling of women he sleeps with which goes without much challenge in the film. Another film I watched the friends of the main character tries tell the main character to break up with boyfriend and engage in casual sex. There are TV shows like how to get away with murder and Lucifer that glorify Playboy life style and casual sex. I don't want kids to internalize messages as some thing they should mimic or that this is how the world should be.

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We humans have been changing the world to meet our needs in the past so why is it a sin now.

The problem with this is that change is orchestrated by the masses, as in most people want it or deem it necessary. Hookup culture is supported by the masses. The overwhelming majority of women want it to be available even if they don't partake and the top guys want it to continue because they benefit from it as well.

So why can't we work together to make the world better place for the future generation. So what if our generation is screwed we owe it to the future ones to make life better for them.

As a society this is possible but in terms of sex and dating it isn't. People work together in society because a conclusion can be reached from it that is better for everyone. When it comes to sexual reproduction this cannot happen. There is no such thing as a dating economy where everyone is happy. Especially regarding men.Dating and sex are competitions between men as far as who gets access to sex and with how many women. As a man your biological narrative is to have sex with as many women as possible to ensure your genetic survival. This causes men to focus on themselves and their best interests instead of what's best for the group. Before we had enforced monogamy and slut shaming to even the playing field for average men but those institutions have been destroyed a long time ago.

There are TV shows like how to get away with murder and Lucifer that glorify Playboy life style and casual sex

This is what men and women want. Men want to be the playboy and women want to fuck him

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nothing is going to change.Promiscuous is not allowed for women and allowed for man because sex is designed for man.There is no consequence for man regarding it.Women have to deal with it as female biology is very weak and crazy.Thats how it is going to be.If became acceptable,men will still not date them even if they are high n count themselves.

Even you don't want to date prosmicious woman so why do you care others not dating them?If you have high n count,are you seriously going to want high n count woman,no.We are just built for pump and dump and young virgin is only winner.

To change hook up culture,we just need to be conservative and keep shaming for it.It works in my area.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

sex is designed for man.

huh well you know we banned a middle aged female user from this sub once who said that women enjoy sex much more than men and there's the fact women can have more orgasms in less time than men

[–]BlackPillPusher 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good luck trying to dictate others what they should and should not do, men naturally do not like promiscuous women, you won't change that

[–]tonyrehmatdemir 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

There is not much men can do, most women will lie about their promiscuity.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We can teach kids to be more critical of the media they watch and offer alternative view points

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have no prejudice against promiscuous women. They can take my load and I'll have fun doing it.

But have one as a girlfriend? A wife? Start a family?

Are you kidding?

Such a person would be a massive paternity fraud risk.

[–]FastBananaViral 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Why shouldn’t one be allowed to state their preferences?

[–]kokorwqac 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

She's saying men should stop the hooking up culture instead of peerpetuating with evo psych, she's not telling you to love promiscous women.

[–]FastBananaViral 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Most men cannot participate in hook up culture even if they wanted to. It’s like asking someone homeless to not spend money

[–]kokorwqac -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I ve seen ugly ass dudes do that

[–]FastBananaViral 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ugly dudes I know are incel or are very close to incel

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

im guessing they were rich or crimemaxxed

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am man but yeah you nailed it that's exactly what I mean

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not about you not being allowed to state your preferences is about you posting your preferences constantly on social media is not helping in significant way

[–]FastBananaViral 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is it meant to help? One can say something with no intention to “help”

[–]hdksndiisn 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you. But the problem is there are more men blindly enslaved and content in this world than there are those willing to change it, and many that can’t imagine a different world to live in so wouldn’t know where to even begin thinking about changing their actions.

What one can do is rise up in the social structure, create belief systems, marketing schemes, etc…and infiltrate the masses; basically study & learn PSYOPS and trick people into changing their perceptions.

Well, that’s one way. But as I originally meant to say the problem is that even if men don’t “date hoes” there will be 1000x more that fuck them.

Everything is cyclical. Hoe-culture will die out to conservative beliefs which will be overtaken by liberal systems, like a pendulum, swinging back and forth.

What red pill gurus should do is stop teaching men to bang sluts & marry virgins, and instead teach men to honor themselves AND women, and not perpetuate the cycles they so adamantly and vehemently detest.

The other “problem” is - there is no “problem”. What is morality in relation to sexuality anyways but a means of social control instituted by decaying religious bodies & outdated social norms which represented ideal state-driven family units existing that are no longer necessary to hold society together?

If women don’t want to change their behavior and men continually reinforce that behavior by participating in it, nothing will change. I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore I’ve been on my phone too long. I’m going to the gym. Where some chick in yoga pants will doubtlessly be taking photos of her ass in the mirror.

[–]herefortheparty01PurplePill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Naw. Im good.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean?

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Society created and upholds hookup culture, it encourages it along with feminism which serves no one but the oligarchy. Society can burn down for all I care, I've gone fishing.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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