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q4w: What does the 28+ y.o. single you bring to the table better than the 18-27 y.o. single you?

October 1, 2022
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Many women believe that they get better with age. The question is what does the older you bring to the table on a date that a younger version of you couldnt?

For example, the 18-27 y.o. single you is on a date with the man of your dreams: he is everything you are looking for (whatever that may be); juxtaposed with the 28+ y.o single you with the man of your dreams. Would the younger you be more appealing to the man of your dreams or the older you would be more appealing in your opinion?

Would your body be more youthful then or now? Would you be more used or less used then? Would you be more easy going then or more easy going now?

Granted, this question is for girls who are actually looking to meet men.

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Title q4w: What does the 28+ y.o. single you bring to the table better than the 18-27 y.o. single you?
Author _Duriel_1000_
Upvotes 4
Comments 41
Date October 1, 2022 12:23 AM UTC (2 months ago)
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[–]Lost-Zebra6453 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol what kind of question is this. I’m not single but when I was dating at 25 vs 18 there were huge difference

18 I was still partying. I was in a ltr but we fought a lot and I nagged a lot. Won’t go into the shit he did but it was 100% a two way street. I was more interested in partying or having fun then. Also hadn’t gone to uni yet so had no career prospects.

At 25 I finished school, and was long done with partying. I had traveled 4 countries by this point, and also learned about weight lifting and body sculpting best shape I was ever in was at 25. 18 I was too skinny partly from all the partying. In my relationship now we haven’t had a fight ever (we’ve disagreed and annoyed eachother but not taught as we communicate well and have a lot of respect for eachother)

I’m a much better partner and way more supportive than I would have been capable of in my younger years because I couldn’t even support myself back then let alone another person of they went through something like loss of job, or depression. Younger me would not have been half the mother I am today.

So all in all yea I think I was a better potential partner when I met my partner at 25 vs if we had met when I was younger

[–]Kappador66 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is actually a good answer.

[–]shreyastalpade 3 points4 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

this question is for girls who are actually looking to meet

Women aren't looking to meet men, men are looking to meet women.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Correction -they are,only incel and low value man are looking to meet women,rest are just looking for casual fun.

[–]shreyastalpade 2 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Casual fun is a buzzword for meeting and getting women.

[–]Glad-Discount-47611 points [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link

If you see it as pump and dump,not as looking for relationship then you are right.

[–]shreyastalpade 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Women don't owe sex, men don't owe commitment.

[–]_Duriel_1000_[S] -2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Women aren't looking to meet men

lol til women dont use tinder

[–]shreyastalpade 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

A lot of it is to just get validation and followers.

[–]_Duriel_1000_[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

A lot of it is to just get validation and followers.

^ is vastly different from "Women aren't looking to meet men"

[–]shreyastalpade 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Technically they aren't looking to meet men.

[–]greedyleopard42 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

i’m nowhere near that age yet, but i’m sure with age i’ll have learned much more about the world and be able to carry a better conversation. i’ll have more stories to tell and be a more complete person. maybe more confident in my abilities, and my skills at art music and language will be better. i don’t think my attractiveness is going to suddenly go down at 28 either- that’s really still super young and as long as you don’t treat your body terribly you can look good for many years after.

[–]_Duriel_1000_[S] -1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

You will be better at bringing "better" conversations, more confidence in your "abilities" (such as?) , and better art and language. Do you believe not being better at these things are common complaints/requirements for men?

i don’t think my attractiveness is going to suddenly go down at 28 either- that’s really still super young and as long as you don’t treat your body terribly you can look good for many years after.

At what age do you think you look best? At what age do you think men think you look best? At what age do you think you peak looks-wise?

[–]greedyleopard42 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

abilities such as programming and realistic art guitar chess and a lot of my other hobbies.

some men do care about these things and are impressed by them, and those are the kind of men i like anyway.

i’m unsure what age i’ll look best. i might up my physical fitness, get more flattering haircuts and wear more flattering clothes later. as long as i don’t let myself go a lot, the physical “deterioration” will be negligible for quite some time. i’m not at peak fitness or anything and i still don’t think i’ve found the best haircut for myself so improvements in those might outweigh slight aging. it really just depends on what happens. i don’t think there’s one single certain “peak” that’s set in stone.

[–]_Duriel_1000_[S] -1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

some men do care about these things and are impressed by them, and those are the kind of men i like anyway.

Have those men you like asked you out on dates before? Or do they say "when you learn how to play guitar and chess, I'll ask you out"?

i’m unsure what age i’ll look best. i might up my physical fitness, get more flattering haircuts and wear more flattering clothes later.

Why? Are you not physically fit right now? If not, wont that be detriment to your looks in the future, and in turn, cause your beauty to peak earlier than later?

i don’t think there’s one single certain “peak” that’s set in stone.

Which age of women attract most men? I think that would be a great cue.

[–]greedyleopard42 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

the ages are different for different women idk what to tell you. it depends on a lot of things. the reason we think people have to peak so early is because people treat their bodies like dogshit and the majority end up overweight. and some are genetically predisposed to have a way slower metabolism after a few years too.

i’m fit, i could probably go to gain a little weight though. i was a late bloomer and still have an extremely high metabolism.

yeah i already know how to play chess and guitar. my boyfriend loves watching me play chess and he loves telling me how fascinating it is to watch me play and the strategies i come up with. i see his expressions and he definitely feels a lot of joy seeing it. it’s one of his favorite things to brag about involving me. he plays guitar as well so that was a positive for him.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I am not looking for man but I would say this.

Would the younger you be more appealing to the man of your dreams or the older you would be more appealing in your opinion?

So you really think 27 + can win against 18-27? 50 years old man would chose 24 years old single mom rather 45 years old woman even if she is childless.

Of course,Younger me would be appealing as you can give him kids easily if he want and youth is valuable thing you give to man so what the hell older me would give him.No man likes lose body with full of wrinkles and aged face.Also falling for 18-27 yo is more easier than 27+yo.We are not like men who get better with age,we just turn into useless creature dealing with broken body and other issues.I literally gave up gym after watching men getting better ,build muscles or whatever shit they do and my body keep getting lose so it kinds of like heartbreaking lol.

I can be crazy or get envy very easily which I don't think is attractive trait.I was little bit more calm in my young age.I have hearing loss so it would be annoying to ask to repeat what they said.I am sure my ex was annoyed by it.

In old age,how can body be youthful? As someone who is in aging phase, literally body is becoming bad even though I exercise,move,eat healthy and don't do anything bad to it.There is nothing you can do to stop it unless you get surgery.All of this is impossible if you gave birth to kids

The question is what does the older you bring to the table on a date that a younger version of you couldnt?

To be honest, nothing lol.All I think I will give him is bill amount.Even if I did bring something,I don't think man will fall for me and another woman will get him.

[–]_Duriel_1000_[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you so much for your honesty.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah what else can I say personality? Lol

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (18 children) | Copy Link

No women thinks they get better with age we all know most men are borderline pedo

Getting better with aging is mostly some redpill men coping, rarely women

[–]zoloftabuser 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Getting better with aging for men refers to the wealth and status they acquire over time. No one’s saying they go from average to Brad Pitt (incoming “I like pretty boys :P so your point is moot”).

Referring to men who are attracted to women aged 18-25 doesn’t make them pedophiles. This is a classic feminist tactic of infantilizing women and using heinous words in a casual manner, which downplays the severity of real victims (i.e., a woman being groped claiming she was raped).

This is like me saying you’re a predator/pedophile since you’re into pretty boys, who’re often youthful and mere children (even though they could be well into their 20s).

[–]kokorwqac 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes but isn't that '' betabuxxing'' reddit contradicts itself a lot

I don't see how someone who thinks 18 is the peak wouldn't find 15 year olds attractive, i do like young looking guys myself but i'm the minority, whereas men who prefer teen girls are common

[–]zoloftabuser 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes but isn't that '' betabuxxing'' reddit contradicts itself a lot

So when I comment, I speak for all men on Reddit? Interesting.

I don't see how someone who thinks 18 is the peak wouldn't find 15 year olds attractive

Notice how I said 18-25, but you conveniently ignored that.

i do like young looking guys myself but i'm the minority

Woman moment: thinking you’re special for having the same preference as…everyone else.

[–]kokorwqac 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most women prefer their age, i haven't seen 30 year old women bashing 30 year old men as ''post-wall' ' and going for 15-25 year old boys, it is statistically rare

Heck incel forums even have 25 year old dudes discuss 14 being ' 'prime' ' and hating on ' 'agecucks' ' do women have any similar equivalent?

[–]Liberated_Asexual 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Lol what? Where are you from? Most Western women are telling themselves repeatedly how they are getting better the older they get.

'Borderline pedo' — nice job trying to invalidate men preferring young adult women. Btw it's not all looks either, the older the woman — the more jaded she is and the more baggage she carries.

[–]kokorwqac 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

most of those men will probably find underage attractive too, come on

you could say the same for older men, but most have the morals to not go after an 18 year old boy at 33, most women just don't think 45 year old wrinkly ballsack looking dudes complainin about the ''wall'' is hyprocritical, not the same as thinking you get better

most redpillers say men peak at like 35 or 45 but no one criticizes that and thinks only women think they age like fine wine, men are much more delusional about this.

i seen 30 year old virgins and ones who fuck like 10 different guys at 15, you never know.

[–]Liberated_Asexual -2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck are you talking about? There's countless headlines where female teachers are having sex with their underage students. It goes under the rug because it's "okay" if the underage person is male.

[–]kokorwqac 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Never said it doesn't happen but it happens much lesser than the reverse, 35 year old women thinking men their age are post wall then complaining on forums isn't normalized or common either

The fact older men complaining about older women seeing themselves as equal to older men in this very thread shows women are more ''blackpilled about aging' '

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

the older the woman — the more jaded she is and the more baggage she carries.

Thats true tho.

nice job trying to invalidate men preferring young adult women

This is weird coming from you when you accused me for liking white men better.

[–]_Duriel_1000_[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You are admitting that it makes sense for men to prefer 18-27 y.o's to 28+ yo, yes.

[–]kokorwqac 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes, the thing is i think most women accept that, so the premise is wrong

[–]_Duriel_1000_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, the thing is i think most women accept that

I wish that was true

[–]FastBananaViral 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They really don’t

[–]kokorwqac 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i've never seen a woman say they peak at 30, while redpillers say men peak at 45

[–]zoloftabuser 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Baggage: trauma, jaded misconceptions, and being testy.

[–]SolidPuzzleheaded984 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Younger women are WAY less jaded.

[–]EulenWatcher 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Can't talk exactly about the given timeframes, but overall I'd say with age and experience in dating I got much better communication skills, got more attentive, mature, composed etc. All in all compared to 18 y.o. myself now I'm an adult, not a kid. There's no much difference between being 23 and 24 though. The key is in experience, not just age.

[–]_Duriel_1000_[S] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

what can a 35 yo communicate that an 18-27 yo can not communicate?

[–]EulenWatcher 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm talking about my personal experience. Better communication skills have come from experience.

[–]_Duriel_1000_[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

what couldn't you say as a 18-27 yo you that you can say as an 28_ yo you?

[–]EulenWatcher 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm better at sharing my feelings and worries and putting my boundaries. Like I don't keep silent anymore when something is wrong and it helps.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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