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q4w: Why do some women think they are more valuable than men because you let men pump and dump you?

_Duriel_1000_
September 22, 2022
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This is directed at unmarried girls primarily but other girls can chime in. I want to know why do you think you are more valuable than men, or "incels" because you spread your legs and let men pump and dump you?

I think its common fact that men will stick our dicks in anything: holes in walls, socks, our hands, your butt, your pussy, etc. So, when you spread your legs for a man, you aren't doing anything special to raise your value, just like a sock that we like fucking doesn't have any additional value.

How come you believe that letting men use you makes you better than a man who doesn't use you?

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Title q4w: Why do some women think they are more valuable than men because you let men pump and dump you?
Author _Duriel_1000_
Upvotes 0
Comments 13
Date September 22, 2022 11:13 PM UTC (2 months ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Female hook up warriors are Just like Male hook up warriors I don't understand why there be different. I don't think hook up warriors devalue men who don't hook up but probably views the act of not wanting something serious early in life as revolting. I interacted with hook up warriors online and they all mocked me for wanting serious back when I was 17 years old. Granted these were men but I wouldn't doubt female hook up warriors being wierded out about someone wanting something serious early on.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are already biologically built for pump and dump.. They are being told lies that sex with man will make him commit you.Thats why they think like that.

Do you really think every woman is going be like saint pure. I believe true nature is some women already have to sacrifice their values to make man more desirable so that in future he will become good partner to someone else because man learn things from experience.Sad but true

[–]Rook_Cross 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

LOL, it's posts like these that remind me just how bitter and out of touch RP/PUA/incels, whatever, are. That someone can post this and not know how bad this is, that they can walk around thinking like this, living a life like this, it's beyond me. I think premarital sex, pornography, the lo,t is disgusting, but this is even worse. You think you're making women sound bad here but you make men look like abject creatures instead, which they're not. You're post contains all the hints as to why it's so hard for this minority of men to get in relationships or have sex, and why it will generally continue to be so.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

ah yes the famed personality

[–]caption291 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This sounds like a meme...what is it from?

[–]mcove97NeutralPill 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it makes me more valuable but also not less.

How come you believe that letting men use you makes you better than a man who doesn't use you?

Uh.. I don't? I also don't let men use me who I don't use too. Like what do you think? That I'm letting a guy hook up with me for his sole benefit? Nah ah. If I'm letting a guy hook up with me it's cause I want to hook up with him for my benefit and sexual pleasure and gratification and enjoyment.

Oh wait what???!! For my benefit? Yes actually.

You're asking how is it to my benefit? Well... Pleasure DUH!

I don't just let men pump and dump me. They also let me pump and dump them, so the using is very much a mutual thing. That's why it's called FWB, or fuckbuddies, or one night stand , because you both use each other for sex. Wait what? Women use men for sex too?! Yes. Yes indeed they do. I do...

[–]We_Are_All_One -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Casual sex damages women and their ability to pair bond. The same is not true for men.

[–]Cobra_x30 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it makes me more valuable but also not less.

I think you missed the point of his post. You might think of this as mutual pleasure but the guy you are sleeping with does not. This kind of goes to the point of female self delusion.

I've been in FWB relationships many times... and often with women I have some kind of emotional attachment to. However, I never share how I actually feel about the situation. It absolutely lowers my valuation of the woman. That's just a fact.

But the question posed is summed up best as "Why do people who have easy access to sex due only to structural reasons look down on people who do not?". I know some women do this, but a lot of others don't. I know some guys who do this too, so it's not a gendered issue to my opinion. To me it's like rich people who look down on the poor, or people who drive past the homeless and yell "Get a job you bum!"

[–]cutbutgets 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Men can think of me as less all they want, I don't care. I once hooked up with a personal trainer who was completely rude in the morning as I was leaving. Two weeks later he messaged me and I didn't respond. He continued to message me for months and finally after three texts in one day I responded with '?'. He started apologizing about the morning after we hooked up and wanted to meet. I was like: you really think I'm gonna see you again lol?? He followed with calling me names and easy. Fine. Don't like me, you won't see me. I had a FWB situation where the guy was a sweetheart, changed breaks on my car, took me out, etc. I never felt like he held anything over my head and that lasted over a year. Be careful how you treat people. Just because you view me as less doesn't mean I do

[–]Cobra_x30 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I had a FWB situation where the guy was a sweetheart, changed breaks on my car, took me out, etc. I never felt like he held anything over my head and that lasted over a year.

I'm more like this guy. It's just my personality type. I know it kills attraction for a good chunk of women, but it works well with others. I've learned to be a bit more balanced over time. With that said... guys like me keep what we really think of women to ourselves. Your personal trainer guy is just kind of a standard player type... but he's probably in really good shape and doesn't have to work as hard as most guys. I yo-yo. Sometimes I'm in fantastic shape... sometimes I'm not.

Over time I've had lots of women come back to me over and over. I don't see the point in being a dick. What I find most fascinating is how many women particularly in the "Anglosphere" overvalue themselves.

[–]cutbutgets 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Personal trainer guy was in good shape but his attitude killed all the attraction (it didnt come out until after we hooked up). The FWB was also very attractive in my opinion, taller too. Idk I was married to a super attractive guy and my last bf was a bodybuilder. Good looking guys commit for sure, they just have more fun between relationships. And no, we don't overvalue ourselves. It's a free market and value adjusts 🤷‍♀️

[–]Peacesquad 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So you use men. Print the copies fellas!

[–]Chalkie_ 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's based off the logic that if he fucks me he must love/like me. Women believe this because inorder to fuck a guy 9/10 times they need feelings for that guy. Its simply solipsism and projection.

The reality is however that men don't need to develop feelings to want to fuck a woman. Men know this. Some women even know this. But alot of women don't and therefore see themselves being pumped and dumped as some kind of accomplishment that makes them feel wanted/desirable.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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