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Spanish Judge orders man to pay ex-wife over $200K for 25 years of housework

March 12, 2023

Next they'll be ordering men to make payments at divorce for fuckyfucky at hooker rates

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Title Spanish Judge orders man to pay ex-wife over $200K for 25 years of housework
Author Dreaminofthepasts
Upvotes 4
Comments 17
Date March 12, 2023 9:19 PM UTC (2 weeks ago)
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[–]KirthWGersen 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Spain has no fault divorce. In fact, nowadays, basically all divorce is no-fault divorce there.

Also, in Spain, when you get married you can choose between sharing your property during marriage or not. In some parts of Spain, separate property is the default. In addition, you can make the equivalent of a legally binding prenup. The system is based on ancient Roman law, where you could do the same. The rules are completely different than in the USA, for example. If you married in another country but get divorced in Spain, Spanish law is what applies (this is the case in all EU countries except Denmark). So an American couple who move to Spain and get divorced may have quite a shock: in Spain there is generally nothing to pay to the other partner and alimony is very low and time-restricted. The non-working partner is expected by the court to find a job as soon as possible.

In this case, he also has to pay alimony of €500 a month for 2 years, plus child support of €1000/month for two children (this is higher than usual (€300 per child) because one of his children is in university, and in Spain you have a legal obligation to support your children until they are 25 or become independent, whichever happens first).

In this case, at the time she filed for support, he was selling the family business for €4 million.

So the outcome is not as bad as it may initially seem: the guy is being asked to pay just 5% of the value of his business in exchange for his wife having run the household over a couple of decades.

This is not a normal situation, nor is it overly burdensome for the guy.

[–]facingitall 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

If you decide to get married or live with your partner, that's a risk you're taking. If you don't plan for it with trusts, find a way around it, or choose not to do it, then it's honestly on the individual who didn't address that.

And this isn't even considering the possible arguments for why $200k is more than reasonable for 25 years of effort. House work and raising kids is definitely a sacrifice. Let's not be ignorant about that.

Either way, there's no such thing as a free lunch. You make decisions in life and face the consequences if you don't even try to address what's within your control.

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Better off paying a hooker and a maid so at least you're not paying for the "privilege" of fucking the same aging nagging whining boring complaining pussy day in and day out, and odds are that if you're MarrIageAblE, you can afford it

[–]facingitall 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not just about the sex. I don't disagree about the sex aspect.

Relationships aren't just about the sex though. That's why you see asexual or low sex drive people still getting into them.

For example, staying grounded, having someone to talk to who knows you like 15 minutes a day for sanity, or even someone to take care of you when you're sick. Being sick alone is a fucking nightmare from experience.

[–]NotARussianBot1984 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sugar babies help.make.it feel.more like a relationship.

And ya you will have to hire help when ur sick probably. But I've never been that sick.where I couldn't help myself.

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But the ostensible benefits that may even have existed have all been dissipated by modernity anyway

At least don't marry 🤷‍♂️

[–]TermAggravating8043 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Did you read it?

She raised the kids and had to keep the house to a standard that she wasn’t able to get a paying job herself, meanwhile, he built a successful business on her labour.

He owes her

[–]too_lazy_to_register 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

How exactly did he build his business on her housekeeping?

[–]TermAggravating8043 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

He was able to work, while she was stuck at home raising THEIR kids and maintaining THEIR house

[–]too_lazy_to_register 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

In most families I know, both parents work (except for the maternity leave, of course). It's not that "he was able to work" it's "she was able not to", and now she demands a compensation.

[–]TermAggravating8043 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

If you read it, you’d see they had 5 kids and the house had to be kept at a certain standard, so she physically could have done these 3 separate jobs

But I agree in households both parents work and both to their part of childcare and domestic work, but in this case the husband didn’t do his part

[–]too_lazy_to_register 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've read it (and it says they had 2 daughters), and as I understand, before the divorce they were happy with their situation. It doesn't say that keeping their house "impeccable" was his requirement.

If they didn't have a special agreement stating that she does all the housekeeping and is entitled to money for doing it, I don't see how it can be fair. He supported her financially for 25 years.

[–]TermAggravating8043 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess they did have a special arrangement then and that’s why she’s been able to sue him

[–]EviessVeralan 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Honestly my opinion of this depends on whos at fault for the end of the marriage.

[–]Dreaminofthepasts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No fault divorce = breakable at any time for no reason or any reason, no way to even inquire into it

Don't know if Spain has no fault divorce or not though

[–]Seth-Prather 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even money it’s a female judge none of the articles mention your honors fuckin gender and obvious lack of balls.

[–]Eyesofmalice 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s part of the risk of getting married. I’d you don’t trust the other person then don’t marry them.

You can’t have a marriage without having to face the uncertainty that this person who says they love may be lying.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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