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The silver lining of modernity (for both women and men)

November 28, 2022
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On the women’s side:

There’s never been a better time for a girl to be a slut; in fact, in today’s world women are applauded and encouraged to act as such. Let’s think about it, millions of girls are jumping out the gate the moment they turn 18 to get on onlyfans and other webcam/porn gigs.

Moving to older stages, there has never been a better time to be an unmarried, barren woman in their late 20s to 40s as there is little to no societal shame for this demographic anymore. Oftentimes, we see this configuration promoted and encouraged as they are strong, independent women who are fighting against the patriarchy.

Hell, was recently watching a Seinfeld episode where they were looking at a single mother who walked into the diner skeptically wondering where the father was, it made me realize that there’s never been a better time to be a single mother, even one who’s obese and promiscuous at that. *In fact, single mothers are considered heroes in today’s world. *

Women have never had such streamlined and ease of access to top tier men to blow out their backs; something a lot of women on here take for granted. At the swipe of an app, even an obese woman can get a tall, good-looking man to pump away.

If a man a woman is dating happens to have the slightest imperfection, a woman can simply ghost and block him as she has dozens of other men willing to date her in today’s landscape.

On the men’s side:

There’s never been a better time to be a virgin (in their 20s or 30s) NEET who lives with their parents. Sure, being a man who can’t get laid may not be ideal, but with the endless amount of cheap if not free entertainment available in today’s age (and hey weed is being legalized) — it’s incredibly easy for one to sedate and distract themselves out of their misery. Not to mention, there’s never been the level of access we have today to quick, free, and high quality porn. In the coming future, there will likely be very immersive and stimulating sex robots/dolls that will help greater act as a serviceable substitue for actual sex. With so many men nowadays getting laid sparingly or not getting laid at all, the impact of insults targeted at virgins/men not getting laid has been greatly diluted.

There’s never been a society that has had such diminishing standards for men. Even older generations are starting to understand that there’s not much incentive for men to put themselves in the workforce grinder as there’s hardly a carrot, let alone an ever-diminishing stick as first-world securities oftentimes provide at least bare material essentials.

Furthermore, because traditionalism has been deconstructed. You’re no longer expected to be put in a 60-80 hour a week work-to-death grinder just to come home to a wife who will nag and bitch at you and won’t have sex with you. You won’t have to deal with said wife deciding she simply ‘fell out of love’ with you or blaming you for ‘working too much’ (even if it afforded the lifestyle she was expecting/desiring) that somehow ‘pushed her into the arms of another man’ as they consistently have spewed time and time again — not to mention, said estranged wife taking away your house and half of your investments/assets that you toiled away for once No-Fault Divorce was enacted.

In a more broad sense, many men currently are benefiting by being born and growing up during peace times — as most men in their 20s would be sent to die in the meat grinder of war in most other periods of human existence.

For both men and women:

Fundamentally speaking, there’s never been a better time for a man or woman to be overweight/obese and single and otherwise what would be considered a failure in any other timeline of society.

Ultimately, society has pretty much fully abstracted away any real sense of shame in the modern age that anyone can effectively act as whimsically and unrestricted as possible. This probably won’t be good for the long-term stability of the society itself (regardless of what people say, shame has been a common element in pretty much all cultures throughout history up until very recently and very likely had an evolved function as a stabilizer in human social/tribal groups), but it’s an incredibly leveraged and concentrated win for the individual. I believe people should reflect and meditate on these factors and realize that ultimately there’s always a give and take for a variety of predicaments.

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[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 6 points7 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

at least we got copes and arent getting sent to battlefields (for now)

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Funny how we keep on getting closer and closer to the dystopia envisioned by the manosphere in the early 2010s. These things were memes yet you see these things happening with Ukrainian people for example. There's a prodigious amount Ukrainian women who literally took to posting lewd TikToks, flooding Tinder and starting OnlyFans months after arriving to the 1st world. Meanwhile their male counterparts are being forced to fight a war that continues to act as a cash cow for Zelensky. But yea, memes do imitate real life

[–]Heard_ya_were_WINNIN[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

[–]Heard_ya_were_WINNIN[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

haha some manosphere guys (and i count peterson among them because he offended a woman once) died or quit therefore all of them are wrong!!!

PPD moment

only good thing i saw in your comment's replies was that universe 25 might have turned out as it did partly because of lack of stimulation for mice

[–]Heard_ya_were_WINNIN[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That lift and lurk dude literally is not literate in English. I sort of stopped trying in that subthread once I realized as such.

And yeah they'll do anything to invalidate the mouse experiment even if we're just saying the idea if itself is intriguing and we're seeing broad parallels in modern society.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Liberals are always in such denial about the moral decay in society and the consequences of the "freedom" they touted. The quality of lives of a lot of people has slumped because of what they advocated for, for decades.

For years the Republican neocons pandered to them on social issues just so they can garner their support for war mongering but the good news is MAGA has destroyed the Bush-Cheney stronghold of the party. Maybe... just maybe, the change we want or hope for can actually come democratically though it's highly unlikely.

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

The quality of lives of a lot of people has slumped because of what they advocated for, for decades.

Which people? Describe them physically and socially. Who is suffering because some physically attractive women are making OF money by selling feet pics?

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

if you wish to do this neither lainpiller nor i desire to stop you

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

tbh republicans also screwed it up with their economic plans and reagan allowing no fault divorce

[–]Zertisko 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How has quality of life degraded exactly because of “what they advocated”?

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

soyciety makes me sick and to be honest maybe it is for the better that you and i were sent our own way if this was our other path

[–]Anti_Thing 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not really anything new. Women have always prostituted themselves during war or other difficult times.

[–]h1shman 4 points5 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

They sedate you to keep you complacent. You’re fine beating off, watching netflix, smoking weed, and eating like shit. You’ve convinced yourself the only thing more miserable than your existence is applying yourself.

You’re a sad excuse for a man. You can do better brother.

[–]Heard_ya_were_WINNIN[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Brother, I live quite a decent life (obvious room for improvement), but I cannot ignore the macro-trends I see.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

What can you do? Nothing revolutionary is coming in our lifetime. Not over here in the USA anyway

[–]h1shman 5 points6 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Stop being comfortable being a loser. You’re literally 6 months of meditation, gym, and learning skills to earn money from greatly improving your happiness and outlook on life. Then 3-5 years away from completely turning your life around.

“Enjoy the decline”

This is said by men who’ve gathered the knowledge and resources to no longer concern themselves with the state of the world.

[–]EnforcementX 5 points6 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Stop being comfortable being a loser.

That is the most frustrating thing in these message boards. People (men) complaining their life sucks but refusing to do anything about it. Don’t like your job? Find a new one. Not earning enough money? Start a side hustle. Don’t like your body? Eat better. Don’t have energy? Get in the gym. Your gf cheated on you? Stop crying over her, work on yourself, get in the gym, build your value, and become someone that others won’t want to cheat on.

It all comes down to personal responsibility. You and you ALONE are responsible for where and what you are right now. Don’t like it? Stfu, stop complaining, and fu*king fix it.

[–]caption291 -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Don’t like it? Stfu, stop complaining, and fu*king fix it.

Well, you clearly don't like these men, so why are you complaining about them instead of just fixing whatever problem you have with them?

[–]EnforcementX -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s not my job to fix weak men. It’s theirs. If you re-read my comment, you’ll see that.

[–]caption291 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn't say it was your job to fix weak men. I don't agree with you. But if you're going to be consistent with your belief, you shouldn't be complaining about them and given that you dislike it you should be fixing the problem YOU have with weak men rather than expect the rest of the world to fix it for you.

Personally, I think extreme accountability is an incredibly weak mindset that people who are scared of looking at reality tend to have. This is about your fears of not being in control of stuff imo.

That's why you make incredibly deceitful statements like "Don’t like your body? Eat better. "

Timmy should skip a few hot dogs and eat more 6'4 pills right?

[–]EnforcementX 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

you should be fixing the problem YOU have with weak men rather than expect the rest of the world to fix it for you.

I don’t have a ‘problem’ with weak men. I just find it sad and, honestly, pathetic when people complain about things, but take no responsibility in trying to change the things they’re complaining about.

That's why you make incredibly deceitful statements like "Don’t like your body? Eat better. "

How is this deceitful? Americans are the fattest humans on earth. SO MANY issues people have in their lives could be fixed just by choosing better foods and to eat less, in general.

Timmy should skip a few hot dogs and eat more 6'4 pills right?

If timmy is fat and short, then he should eat less hot dogs, get in the gym, get a better job, wear nicer clothes, get better hygiene, and quit having the victim mindset that short dudes finish last.

Personally, I think extreme accountability is an incredibly weak mindset that people who are scared of looking at reality tend to have.

Lol wut. Extreme accountability is about understanding that no matter where or what you are in life, you have the power to change things and improve your position. It’s about taking control of the things you CAN change.

Please don’t argue for victimhood with me.. smh.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

so how come you're complaining about them? i'll tell you: it is part of human nature to want to relieve emotional pain by venting. it's why you wrote this comment instead of spending that time doing a pushup, earning a dollar or "building value". and surprise surprise, even the chadliest of chads can get cheated on.

[–]EnforcementX 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

it's why you wrote this comment instead of spending that time doing a pushup, earning a dollar or "building value".

Funnily enough, I wrote that comment shortly after getting home from the gym, after work. I’m always working on improving myself.

and surprise surprise, even the chadliest of chads can get cheated on.

I understand it hurts to get cheated on. It’s happened to me before. But fuck moaning about it online. What does that accomplish? What does that fix? Instead of crying and begging a cheater to “come back,” how about cutting them off, throw out any reminders you have of them, get in the gym, set new goals, stay busy, and focus on moving forward.

I’m encouraging people to have some self accountability and - more importantly - some fu*king self-respect. Playing the victim will never get anyone anywhere in life. Neither will being overly emotional, especially as a man. No woman is worth completely falling apart over.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

no disagreement there godspeed and good tidings

[–]EnforcementX 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

it's why you wrote this comment instead of spending that time doing a pushup, earning a dollar or "building value".

Funnily enough, I wrote that comment shortly after getting home from the gym, after work. I’m always working on improving myself.

and surprise surprise, even the chadliest of chads can get cheated on.

I understand it hurts to get cheated on. It’s happened to me before. But fuck moaning about it online. What does that accomplish? What does that fix? Instead of crying and begging a cheater to “come back,” how about cutting them off, throw out any reminders you have of them, get in the gym, set new goals, stay busy, and focus on moving forward.

I’m encouraging people to have some self accountability and - more importantly - some fu*king self-respect. Playing the victim will never get anyone anywhere in life. Neither will being overly emotional, especially as a man. No woman is worth completely falling apart over.

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

None of this is what they want. They want a beautiful 17 year old virgin to fall into their lap, “love them for who they are, not what they look like”, and cook, clean, and sexually service them.

[–]EnforcementX 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what all men want (not the 17yo part) but it’s not reality.

Men have to EARN this type of treatment from women. That’s just the truth. If a man isn’t on his shit, he can’t expect to get shit from women.

[–]puddingdesperation 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men don't like personality for whatever reason nowadays

[–]debatelord_1 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

But I don't wanna be a neet, I don't wanna be obese or live at home

I want a gf...

[–]YoungStarchild 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There there debatelord_1, everything’s going to be okay.

[–]Heard_ya_were_WINNIN[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry, it's not on the menu.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Cheat code - use your NEETbux to go to the Philippines. You get the best of both worlds, free tendies via tax payer money paired with a cute loyal traditional fertile wife :D

[–]puddingdesperation 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Betabux

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy -2 points-1 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Having a real female to have sex with would be better than any porn, I would say the 1950s were the best as a result

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

In the 1950s when women were entirely financially dependent on men, marital rape was legal, bullying was encouraged, and corporal punishment was the norm.

If you want women to be forced to pay attention to you, pay for it.

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

I was talking about a time when it was good for males. They weren’t forced to do anything, there were females who didn’t marry and divorce existed

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Divorce was rare and came with heavy social repercussions and poverty because women weren’t in the position to earn a living. They couldn’t purchase a home, have a bank account or credit without a man. Marital rape was legal.

Gee I wonder why women don’t want to return to the time when “it was good for men”.

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

If divorce was allowed it means they weren’t forced into anything, they could leave or get married to someone else. It doesn’t concern me what females want or don’t want, I was talking about males in my comment.

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Cognitive dissonance game strong

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I am being inconsistent with saying that the 1950’s were a better time for males than nowadays

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, life was more convenient for men when marital rape was legal and women were utterly dependent on men.

Tell us more about yourself.

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, it was more convenient because men could easily get married.

So it’s easier for females now because so many men are lonely now

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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