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To people who’re against the blackpill, what exactly do you disagree with?

January 24, 2023
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I’ve been in the community since HS and I would summarize the BP this way

1) Looks are extremely important in social situations and relationships.

2) Women have far stricter requirements than men when it comes to dating.

3) Attractiveness isn’t necessarily “objective” but the majority of humans tend to agree on what physicals traits are desirable and what traits aren’t so the distinction isn’t relevant for very ugly men.

4) Personality is only relevant if someone can meet the minimum looks threshold. Women may ignore personality if the guys is extremely attractive, rich or has a high status in society.

5) “Antisocial” personality traits don’t stop chads and some normies from having a regular social life, but it does for ugly men. “Positive” traits doesn’t significantly increase the chance of an ugly man getting a relationship or being treated bette.

6) The most important traits in physical attractiveness (Face, Height and Race) are mostly influenced by genetics. Physical training + fashion can help normal looking men, but not ugly men, because there’s no gym for your face(unless you’re obese) and height.

7) Ugly women are treated somewhat worst than attractive women but in comparison to ugly men, are placed on a pedestal. Women cannot be incels.

8) It’s nigh-impossible for ugly men to find regular relationships and be treated regularly so it’s fine if they give up.

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Title To people who’re against the blackpill, what exactly do you disagree with?
Author TOitneverbegun
Upvotes 30
Comments 111
Date January 24, 2023 1:58 PM UTC (2 months ago)
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[–]IHateFernales 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only ones who deny the black pill are in denial or have an agenda

[–]DamnDirtyCountryCock 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

7 is absolutely outright false. Usually when guys talk about “ugly” women, they mean average looking women without makeup. It just goes to show how invisible truly unattractive women are in society. At least unattractive men have a chance at a relationship by working on their status or wealth like you said in #4. You see a lot of ugly rich old guys with supermodel women. It’s even a common trope for the balding old dumb father to have a bombshell wife. You never see the opposite.

[–]TOitneverbegun[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Are you aware of the pigwoman experiment?

[–]DamnDirtyCountryCock -1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I’m mildly aware of it. It looks like the original source for this “experiment” was removed, which puts its validity into question. It doesn’t help that the author uses this “experiment” as an opportunity to push people towards his corny dating app. See for yourself by plugging this into the wayback machine: https://www.sigmamaleforum.com/topic/207-fake-pig-woman-experiment-reveals-shocking-male-thirst/

Even assuming these results are completely accurate, we all know a simple right swipe is a far cry from meeting up and dating, much less committing to an actual relationship. Maybe these men haven’t closely examined the profile, maybe they impulse liked upon seeing a woman. Maybe some of them believe this is a big joke and that there’s truly a beautiful woman on the other side of the profile. Maybe some of them are bots or scammers. Maybe some of them just wanted to document the first recorded pig-human hybrid. We don’t know whether any of these men actually would have gone so far as to meet up with this hypothetical woman to have relations with her.

And that’s not even getting into societal biases. We all know racism, ableism and ageism are amplified when it comes to dating. Make the pig woman a few shades darker. Or make her 30 years older. Or give her aids. I would be surprised if she got the same amount of interest. At least guys can get over those hurdles by improving their wealth and status. Women don’t have the same opportunity.

I see so many guys complaining about lookism but at the same time being picky with looks themselves. Would you actually be willing to date the pig woman??? Show a bunch of unattractive guys a picture of an unattractive woman and ask them if they would be willing to date them. Then do the same with a bunch of unattractive women and a picture of an unattractive guy. That would be a much better experiment imo. The problem is that dating apps are set up so that women have countless options. But if women were in a situation where they HAD to give an unattractive guy a chance, I think they’d be willing to do it.

[–]IHateFernales 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

How is the validity of the pigwoman questioned when anyone can replicate it? Validity in a science experiment means it can be repeated and you get the same result

[–]DamnDirtyCountryCock 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

All the sources I could find link back to that deleted post, or are clones of the post. Please show me these replications. And even still, you aren’t invalidating any of the other points I made.

[–]IHateFernales 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You can replicate the experiment yourself

[–]DamnDirtyCountryCock 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’ll try it myself then and see what happens. Have you replicated it? And if so, how far were you able to take it short of actually meeting with them in person?

[–]IHateFernales 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I was overwhelmed with matches and dates

[–]TOitneverbegun[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is such a huge rationalization. Most average looking guys struggle to get a few likes or responses a month and yet a photoshopped male that was made fatter was able to get so much interest within a day.

Most guys cannot just become popular or become millionaires so to say “at least guys can become rich and popular so that they can find a girl who’s only there for resources” is just silly. There’s even some studies that show that being unattractive doesn’t reduce a womens ability to find a partner but it does for men and that some men aim for women who aren’t as attractive so that there’s less competition.

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[–]TOitneverbegun[S] 5 points6 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

A lot of assertions being made here. Also many of this has nothing to do with the topic.

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[–]hutavan 4 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

This is the most ironic thing I've ever heard. The majority of your reply is about defending popular men and arguing how few of them are assholes, but he never said anything like that. What he did say is this:

Women may ignore personality if the guys is extremely attractive, rich or has a high status in society.

Antisocial” personality traits don’t stop chads and some normies from having a regular social life, but it does for ugly men.

What he actually said is that you're more likely to get away with being antisocial if you're attractive. Not that all or even most attractive people are mean. You do this shit constantly. Out of everyone in this sub you're probably the one who lacks reading comprehension skills the most from what I've seen.

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[–]hutavan 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

you are le cult

How deep and insightful

Quote the part where he "painted popular people as villains" as you said.

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

“Antisocial” personality traits don’t stop chads and some normies from having a regular social life”

[–]hutavan 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Again, he isn't saying that all chads are antisocial, he's saying that those who are can still have a regular social life.

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

He doesn’t have a social life, so how does he know? His bias prevents him from relating to or understanding popular people.

[–]hutavan 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

He doesn’t have a social life

Baseless assumption

so how does he know?

Even if that were true, he could still know from studies and statistics. Some people with antisocial personality disorder have normal social lives. I'm not sure if OP was referring to APD or what his sources are. Maybe try asking him to further elaborate some of his points and try to have an actual discussion instead of strawmaning him, arguing against points he didn't make.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

I’m with OP, you haven’t really addressed the topic beyond saying “No your wrong”.

Looks help, but are no guarantee

My autistic 6’4 model looking friend begs to differ, dude just exists and has women constantly trying to talk to him.

Confidence, wit, talent, and comfort can make up for physical defects

If a woman doesn’t find you physically attractive, you can’t convince her you are attractive, you either are attractive to her or you aren’t. If this was the case then you’d see far more attractive fit women dating charismatic obese men.

The red pill (and everything you said after that)

The red pill isn’t the black pill, I’m with OP here, you’ve gone completely off topic and went on a tangent about something completely unrelated to the point at hand.

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[–]platinirismsBlackPill 1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

You said you can make up for bad looks with charisma.

My point was that you can’t, hence why you don’t see attractive women dating charismatic obese men.

Obese men need to lose weight and, essentially, look more attractive in order to start dating women.

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

So how do you explain all the ugly and mid looking men who are successful with women? If you attended public school or college, you saw all the ugly-ass athletes and comedians who were dating and having sex.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Simple, I don’t.

I literally don’t see ugly and mid men with successful women.

There’s only 3 relationships I’ve ever seen where the man was worse than the woman, one of them is sexless, one is divorced, and in the third the guy was a millionaire.

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Ohhh. So what's with the constant narrative about women who have sex with deadbeats?

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // your genetics = your fate 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

you'd be surprised to know you and incelTV are on the same page

a comment by ITV:

"good point. IMO, being NT/having actual communication skills is more important than DT meme. and even then you still need to be AT LEAST average looking. the tragic thing is, when you are ugly, you never get to grow up with positive feedback, make those invaluable experiences and connections for your emotional growth. men aren't supposed to live like incels do. that's why many incels are "socially awkward" because they were never given the chance to grow to their potential. Ugly men are robbed of life. it's so brutal."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is brutal. Attractive people have nicer lives, better opportunities to grow. But this environment is unnecessarily corrosive. Instead of helping one another, incels confirm and compound depression and self-loathing. Every life has value, and every person has room to improve.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I have no idea what you’re talking about. What’s this about deadbeats?

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

The red pill platitude that women prefer criminals and deadbeats.

You do know, you just don’t want to argue in good faith.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not Redpill, I don’t care what they think, I also disagree with them and that viewpoint.

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I edited my comment re obesity.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know plenty of charismatic obese men, someone’s confidence, wit, and ability to positively influence others rarely has little to do with a person’s weight.

I feel like you’re a victim of the halo effect.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If a woman doesn’t find you physically attractive, you can’t convince her you are attractive

The only people who claim a man can convince others he is attractive are red pill men, and those men are wrong. The red pill is 1990s pickup on steroids thanks to being amplified by social media like reddit.

The red pill isn’t the black pill

It's exactly the same thing. Hatred and envy disguised as social engineering.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only people who claim a man can convince others he is attractive are red pill. And those men are wrong.

I agree

It’s exactly the same thing

It’s literally the complete opposite of each other. Redpill thinks you can be ugly but with good game attract women.

Blackpill thinks game is shit and you have to be good looking.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill Janitor -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't see the point in proving or discussing the blackpill with others. Though life as a blackpiller is a lot more fun and easy going, so part of me want to discuss it with others as it is an interest. So I kind of get why youre asking this.

But its good that most people arent blackpilled, for us blackpillers. With regards to number 8.

[–]noonereadsthisstuff -3 points-2 points  (39 children) | Copy Link

I know guys who do fine with women even though they're not physically attractive purely because they're outgoing and have social intelligence, and I also know guys who are tall, ripped and good looking who are disasters with women.

Looks matter, but how much they matter is magnified by the context they're in. On dating apps they're everything, if you're in dark club at 2am and the girl has a couple of drinks in her and you're saying the right things you can get away with a lot more.

[–]Constant_Ad6906 4 points5 points  (30 children) | Copy Link

couple of drinks in her and you're saying the right things you can get away with a lot more.

That sounds like rape.

[–]BitsAndBobs304[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's rape to walk up to someone who is standing and talking and consumed alcohol out of their own volition and then have sex with rhem if they agree? Your nonsensical bizzarre definition of rape is an insult to victims of rape.

[–]TOitneverbegun[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t see ugly men with women. And I see most men who are attractive gets attention from women.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

you're in dark club at 2am and the girl has a couple of drinks in her and you're saying the right things you can get away with a lot more

The fuck is wrong with you

[–]BitsAndBobs304[🍰] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Lol, im sure that this not physically attractive guys totally look like Toxie

[–]noonereadsthisstuff 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm thinking of two guys in particular:

Guy 1: Maybe not morbidly obese but close. Hairy & bearded, looks like Peter Jackson when he was fat. Massive extrovert with no social fear at all. Will wander around a bar all night talking to random strangers, buying people drinks and cracking jokes. That kind of guy. Has a hot girlfriend.

Guy 2: Basically a dwarf. 5'2, bald. Big ginger beard. Actually pretty ripped. Massively gregarious, will happily talk to anyone about anything for hours. Has a semi-serious, not quite monogamous girlfriend and fucks girls from tinder from time to time.

Neither of these are massively successful with women, but they do get women.

The problem with incels & redpill types is that they're too self absorbed to see beyond themselves. Its not just that they're not attractive, its because they're anti-social and egotisitical as well.

[–]Constant_Ad6906 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

None of those two guys exist.

[–]noonereadsthisstuff 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, you don't even talk to people. How would you know who exists?

[–]BitsAndBobs304[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

oh yeah, women hate egotistical men so much that they... provably prefer dark triad men. c'mon.

[–]noonereadsthisstuff 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Egotism without confidence just comes off as weird and creepy.

[–]GlumManufacturer1557 -3 points-2 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

  1. True, for all genders.
  2. Not necessarily.
  3. True, for men and women alike.
  4. True, for men and women alike.
  5. 1st true mainly for men, 2nd applies to both.
  6. True, for men and women alike. Face and body.
  7. 1st phrase false, 2nd phrase true
  8. Tecnically true, but traps you into a victim mentality. Little is always better than none at all.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

  1. Not necessarily

There’s a reason why men swipe right on 54% of women while women swipe right on 5% of men on old. And it has little to do with the gender ratio on OLD.

A woman being at a healthy weight is usually more than enough to be attractive to men, you cannot reverse the genders and say the same thing.

Overall, it sounds like you agree with the Blackpill, what exactly are you against?

[–]TsugaC1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

A woman being at a healthy weight is usually more than enough to be attractive to men, you cannot reverse the genders and say the same thing.

No one who applies common sense and logic would say the same thing, because men are indiscriminate and will fuck and have satisfying sex with damn near any woman. Women are not biologically compelled to seek sex from men they are not attracted to or men who aren't able and willing to ensure that sex is a mutually satisfying adventure for both.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m not even talking about sex, this applies to relationships too.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Relationships involve sex. A woman isn't going to settle for someone who disgusts her when he kisses her. But a man has a different threshold for disgust.

[–]GlumManufacturer1557 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I said not necessarily because, although that may be true for a majority of cases, that statement does not apply to all women or to all men.

Although I agree looks are a very determinant factor in one's life, I am against the idea that that principle is only appliable to men's experiences, and I also don't think nothing can be done to improve one's attractiveness, regardless of gender.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The Blackpill doesn’t specify that you can’t do nothing about it, just that looks are the most important aspect of dating. That also includes muscles, clothes, grooming, etc.

I also apply it to both men and women. If a woman wants to attract men, she needs to work on her physical attractiveness.

[–]GlumManufacturer1557 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, but both of those are very common mindsets in the blackpill community, and theres a lot of misogyny going on in there too. To be frank, you seem like an honest person, and I agree with most of your points. But it really seems that most blackpillers do not share your beliefs, and that is why I do not compactuate with it.

[–]BitsAndBobs304[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

5? More like 0,1%

[–]gruckendudBlackPill 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

At the end of the day I would say most of these thing are true for both genders, it is just the degree to which they are true that makes the biggest difference. Yeah, a girl who isn't as attractive is definitely not in a great position compared to an attractive girl or a chad, but an ugly girl does not even have things remotely as bad as an ugly man, this is true for everything.

The only fulfilling romantic life for a man is to be a chad who runs through many women. Even chad would never be able to have a fulfilling relationship, since women demand so much. Even ugly women can have a fulfilling relationship, which is something that really no man has access to due to female hypergamy. Not even chad can escape it.

[–]GlumManufacturer1557 -1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

An unattractive woman will have a much easier time dating than an unattractive man, but other areas of her life will be much tougher than that man's. In the end, there are upsides and downsides to being an ugly female and being an ugly male, as there are being a man and being a woman.

That said, it is pointless to argue about who has it worse, because even if an imbalance were to exist, we, as a collective, would be much better dedicanting our times to trying to solve the problems rather than debating what side has got more.

[–]TOitneverbegun[S] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

There’s no problem to solve, though.

You’re born with certain genetics and that’s all there is to it

[–]GlumManufacturer1557 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

I was talking more generally, like all this "feminism vs men's rights" stuff, but It also applies to more specific situations. If you have this victim mentality, youll never get better. Sure, maybe you have horrible genetics. Maybe you will never be "Chad". But being ugly is better than being abhorent. If you actively decide it is better to smell like shit, dress like shit, eat like shit, and bitch about "females" all day on incels.is than to try and take any minimal action to better yourself, yes, you are at fault.

[–]TOitneverbegun[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Doing the opposite of these things won’t get you relationships or friends if you’re ugly, so ultimately it doesn’t matter how much an incel takes care of himself

[–]GlumManufacturer1557 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Sure, maybe it won't. Your motivation to better yourself shouldnt come from external approval.

And even if it did, you can't know until you try.

[–]inkwel43 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I tried it. Actually I've tried it my entire life. Actually I'm pretty sure I'm more hygenically thorough then your average person. I'm probably more hygienic than you. In particular. It's just the way I was raised what can I say.

I'm still a 24 khhv about to turn 25 in March lmao. So I can confirm. It doesn't. Work.

[–]GlumManufacturer1557 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Exepct improving your looks is not only about hygiene. That is just basic human skills. What is a khhv?

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[–]TryLambda 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

That’s not black pill buddy… that’s red pill truths you listed

[–]h1shman 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was about to say this is just redpill. My only disagreement is ugly women are invisible.

[–]TOitneverbegun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

  1. only to superficial people, and that is many. You can't change this, but only losers let themselves be bothered by things they can't change.You are setting yourself up for failure if you are basing your level of happiness on how people treat you.People don't owe you kindness. Most dgaf aout you. Most don't even know who you are.Don't take that personally. Get used to it, or consider yourself at the door of a horrible life of disappointments. People aren't nice, and people are superficial creatures.
  2. I don't think this is important
  3. Yes
  4. Some yes, some no. there is no yes or no answer. Seeing nuance is the antidote to blackpill.
  5. Go outside, I can't get through this
  6. This is depressing and distorted thinking. The gateway to phrenology, which I thought died in the 19th century.
  7. You spelled 'worst' wrong.Ah, life philosophy written by people who make elementary school grammar mistakes. I swear this is ghost written by 11 year olds and people who didn't go to school or don't read books. Always a great combination of variables.
  8. You are using the word 'nigh'. This is the actual problem people don't want to talk to you. Hitting my point home that you are probably 11 and this is deep.
  9. Oh you give up? Ok, I don't care.That's on you and it's your life. I have my own shit you have yours. Nobody owes you kindness, don't take that personally. Read a book.

[–]TOitneverbegun[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

1) Well then most people are superficial, and most humans are social creatures, so it’ll affect incels mental health regardless.

2) It is when taking about dating dynamics.

5) My interactions with humans irl and a multitude of studies is the reason for this view, so.

The rest of you’re complained are just you being a bitchy woman, which I simply don’t care for.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I am so bitchy about these cultures because it breaks my heart we are losing our young boys to Eliot Roger worship, and boys being groomed by our finest older men with Mountain Dew mouth rot and instead of real school, getting sucked into hustlers uni, where Andrew Tates telling you to be illiterate.

Just avoid pseudo Shakespearean words when you speak, and this will get you ahead like 500% with any human communication. The issue is many of you don't value social skills, but desire full on relationships and intimacy, and social experiences. You can't have authentic relationships without the ability to conform to social rules.

A lot of the setbacks incel and blackpills have are easy fixes they can't see until someone who is not from the culture points them out. Unfortunately, they take it personally and devalue it because it's not someone from the echo chamber. I think I am doing a favor by telling you it doesn't help my friend, if you to talk like JP from grandma's boy.

You are clearly younger, and you are more salvageable. Many more of these 'nature' dilemmas are things you can nurture yourself, but it requires strength, a lot of independence, and ditching the comfort and radicalization of your echo chamber. Reading a book by a good writer can peel you away from Mountain Dew tooth rot and hustler university and mewing world.

[–]AdventurousSource5191 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Because the blackpill, as with all "pills", are based on a heavily nihilistic, atheistic culture uprooted from religion that used to serve as a center identity to unite factions of society together before the Sexual Revolution convinced us that everything opposite to our morals worked better.

[–]TOitneverbegun[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I’m Christian. The BP is just acknowledging reality, it can lead to nihilism but doesn’t necessarily do so. Many people who believe in the BP aren’t even religious or ugly

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

This doesn't go with the Christian theology so I don't know what kind of "Christianity" you're basing it on, full stop.

[–]TOitneverbegun[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Where in Christian theology does it say that women don’t care for looks in dating?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats not what the bp is only about lol

[–]lovestocomment 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think black pill is actually a thing. It's either you're blue pilled or red pilled. It's either you're eyes are opened or they are closed. What you choose to do with the information you receive is up to you.

[–]SedTheeMighty 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s the closest “pill” to the truth and the way social dynamics work. Several psychology studies back up the claims (halo effect and the chemicals released upon physical attraction being like eating chocolate)

[–]MiamiSunrise12 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree with the concept or the generalization of how difficult it is for the average man to meet a partner. Most women and end up marrying average guys because again most women are average. Eventually in the long run the Chads will marry Stacies, which means that Brads will eventually find their partners once the Chads in his age bracket and social circle are off the market.

I also disagree with the idea that race plays a significant role in determining how attractive someone is. Obviously in western countries where most people are white minorities will have a harder time dating just because people want to go out and date others that resemble them selves. Have a situation been reversed, if I as a white man go to the Middle East I will naturally have a harder time dating.

In addition, I feel as though most people underestimate just how much social change has occurred in the last couple of generations. We are no longer living in a world where countries are putting up laws preventing interracial relationships. People are free to date whoever they want, and generally speaking society is a lot less racist now than they used to be. There are more celebrities that are ethnic minorities then at any point in human history. This clearly wouldn’t be the case if there were such a strong racial preference for white people in white countries.

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