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Tom Leykis was Andrew Tate before Andrew Tate

January 8, 2023
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Back in the days, when YouTube was at it's nascent stage, Young guys might not know this, but Leykis was Andrew Tate before Andrew Tate.

Tom is the Father of the Red Pill. Hands down. All of them. Kevin Samuels, Coach Greg Adams, Donavan Sharpe, Alpha Male Strategies, Richard Cooper, Better Bachelor, and dozens of these content creators all owe their platforms to this guy. ALL of them. Leykis 101 is the blueprint of all of them. They have some variations but the basis of the message is out there more than ever. Women cant pull the crap that they once use to.

I do not ofcourse fully endorse his views, but it's weird how the original Red Pill coach has long since been forgotten

There was one more guy - A black comedian whose name I cannot remember, would appreciate if someone could chime in...

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[–]Lovers691BlackPill 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A black comedian- Patrice O'Neal

[–]Pale-Aardvark-2464[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Patrice O'Neal

and thank you!!!!!!

[–]PuertoRock007 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well you are right Tom Leykis is probably the father of the Red Pill. He was teaching it before Rollo.

I just wouldn't say he's Andrew Tate. Leykis game is really about being a "salt daddy". Where he lures females in thinking they are going to use him as a beta bucks, but instead he just fucks them a few times without giving them anything.

I never heard him discuss anything about the alpha fux side of hypergamy. Maybe it has to do with his age that the alpha side was over a long time ago, who knows.

I also noticed the same about Kevin Samuel's. All he ever spoke about was getting your beta bucks points up. Never heard him talk about the alpha side. To me it seems like Kevin Samuel's was trying to redefine the beta bucks as the new alpha. Kevin was also an older guy so maybe it was an age thing with him too.

[–]Pale-Aardvark-2464[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I never heard him discuss anything about the alpha fux side of hypergamy.

the dude practically invented the afbb terminology. Remember the pointdexter husband - his was the timmy beta cuck

[–]PuertoRock007 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But his advice was always to get your money up. Never heard him talk about Hitting the gym or having swag.

Money does help alot of guys, but remember there are guys out there that can get those girls without money.

[–]upalseBogPill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah, Leykis actually was a talented shock jock. There were many like him all the way back to early 80s, especially stand up. I'v'e tried few of Tate's rant podcasts. I don't see the appeal, it's pure garbage, even by low standards for RP content. I suppose the swag flash and rabidly seeking notoriety is all that one needs?

[–]Whisperinthelair -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lol tbh Tom is the kinda guy I would trust about women considering looks wise he's not very attractive at all. I only take advice from ugly or fat guys. Tbh tho he was from a different time. Before tinder changed everything. Fun fact: tinder was created by Jews.

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

jews troll everyone while foids get blamed for it

[–]Whisperinthelair 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Foid nature is to blame but others are to blame for taking away the ability to domesticate them.

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

meh, jews or other stuff brainwashes moids too.

[–]Whisperinthelair 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jews aren't to blame for everything.

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I prefer Jesse Lee Peterson, a lot funnier

[–]MicrosoftOSX 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Tate is a caricature… i dont think there is any similar public persona

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought Rolo Tamasi was the father of the Redpill?

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