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Want more incels? Because a lot of men doing this is how you get incels.

August 21, 2022
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Title Want more incels? Because a lot of men doing this is how you get incels.
Author RatDontPanic
Upvotes 6
Comments 47
Date August 21, 2022 10:31 PM UTC (3 months ago)
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[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 14 points15 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I've been noticing there has been an increase in "open relationships" and and straight up polygamous relationships over the past decade.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 9 points10 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Yup, if this goes too far it's going to be very very bad for guys.

[–]PaliantBlackPill 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

More like bad for the stability of society. You want to see what a future polygamous society looks like?

Well just look at Islamic countries where some men take multiple wives while others get nothing. The leftover men form extremist groups and terrorize society constantly. Think mosque shootings and car bombings.

Hope sharing Chad is worth not feeling safe stepping out the front door for all the ladies.

[–]lostwanderer28 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well just look at Islamic countries where some men take multiple wives while others get nothing. The leftover men form extremist groups and terrorize society constantly. Think mosque shootings and car bombings.

Before Islam came, Arabs used to marry up to 10 or more wives. Islam tuned that number down to 4 and on top of that there is a verse literally saying that taking only one wife is the wisest choice.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well just look at Islamic countries where some men take multiple wives while others get nothing. The leftover men form extremist groups and terrorize society constantly. Think mosque shootings and car bombings.

That is true. The West has had that as well, it's just less talked about. But Youth Bulges - large populations of men with no marriage prospects - were caused by this and every time one happened, a big war followed... World War 1 and 2, the Crusades, and so on.

We'd better put a lid on that, or else the next Youth Bulge could mean World War III. Not sure how we're going to do that practically speaking. Maybe we need to look at how Japan tamed their male thirst?

[–]PaliantBlackPill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No you just promote monogamy and family values again. Making every part of courtship and gender relations behind a pay wall will not bode well for society either.

An elderly Japanese woman solution to Japans population crisis? Polygamy ♻️ and we go back to square one.

[–]BlackPillPusher 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men shouldn't get married in the first place as it's against their interests, those who do are frankly just suckers.

[–]lostwanderer28 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It is going to be bad for all men, women and children.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True.

[–]ManWazoA poly Chad 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

From my point of view it's not bad at all! Dating multiple people is fun!

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's great for the men at the top. For everyone else, not so much.

[–]PaliantBlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea sounds fun until too many people get left out of the mating market and have too much time on their hands to then turn on society.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not like men were living a charmed existence in the romance category. As for incels, I recommend they hire escorts, get their dick wet and move on. There is no benefit in wifing a chick up in 2022.

[–]IHateNormis 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is widespread and as a result why incels exist. Females either share Chad or take turns with Chad

[–]MarBitt 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

The question is whether there are more such relationships where there are more women and one man than those where there are more men and one woman.

Relationships of several men with one woman would, on the contrary, reduce the number of incels, right?

[–]Wide_Result9679 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Most men don't want to share. Which I could argue also contributes to the number of incels. Guys complain they can't get laid but want one woman to themselves which reduces the number of available women...

And of course most guys want a young woman so they're all competing for the same limited pool...

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

but want one woman to themselves which reduces the number of available women

No it doesn't. Wanting more than one woman to themselves is what does that.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I recommend you read “the Selfish Gene” by Richard Dawkins if not already done so.

Male and female dating strategies are very, very different and are driven at a genetic level.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

A culture of men sharing a woman is still a dystopia for men, it's just an opposite kind from this.

[–]MarBitt 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Being a married woman's lover is basically nothing else and yet many men will do it.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

To me that's just demeaning for the man. Wouldn't have said that 20 years ago though.

[–]lostwanderer28 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I also noticed that newer movies and TV series are pushing this whole "open relationship" thing.

I am disgusted how they try to force this down our throats and make it seem like we have a say in all of this.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I've noticed that. I thought it was an anomaly.

[–]cryptothrow2 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a side effect of California

[–]BlackPillPusher 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

One man and multiple women is actually the way human relationships worked throughout most of history, hell even these days dating apps surveys show that women find 80% of men "below average", it's just nature, hating it is useless.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

One man and multiple women is actually the way human relationships worked throughout most of history

Yeah and that's why most men never procreated. Also it's part of why all past civilizations collapsed. So if you just want endless instability and cyclical apocalypses then yeah that's a good system to have.

[–]BlackPillPusher 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Civilizations will always collapse and fall, that's just how human nature is, and the nature of life as a whole, too.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Why should we do things that we know will cause it to happen? You really don't want to see everything fall apart. They don't call it the Dark Ages for nothing.

[–]BlackPillPusher 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Not up to me, not up to you, tomorrow you'll be drafted and there's fuckall you can do about it except exchanging that piece of paper for a government rape cage.

[–]Wide_Result9679 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Men wanting one woman to themselves also creates more incels.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not true, there's roughly one man per woman so men wanting one woman is actually optimal. It's the serial monogamy that's the problem. Women don't re-marry. Then there's men who have multiple women. And women who could care less about men.

[–]Wide_Result9679 -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yet many men don't get even one woman, so every guy who takes a woman permanently is creating a deficit.

Women don't re-marry because as you just said, one woman per man is optimal...for men. Women are not finding this arrangement optimal, so they bow out.

A woman choosing what's best for her isn't "could care less about men." I've watched women dump men because he suddenly stopped being capable of cooking & cleaning once they moved in together. Enforced monogamy isn't a thing anymore and women are celebrating while men rage (on average) for good reason.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yet many men don't get even one woman, so every guy who takes a woman permanently is creating a deficit.

That's not creating a deficit. The lack of interested women is the problem, that's different but similar. There are in fact a lot of women simply not even interested in marriage or even dating. Plus if she's divorcing him he hasn't taken her permanently even if he thought he did.

A woman choosing what's best for her isn't "could care less about men." I've watched women dump men because he suddenly stopped being capable of cooking & cleaning once they moved in together.

I've watched women dump men for less than that, and same goes for men dumping women.

Enforced monogamy isn't a thing anymore and women are celebrating while men rage (on average) for good reason.

We need to adopt the blase' attitude toward dating that women have. The herbivore craze in Japan has left women there rudderless. We don't need to go that far - we just need to stop being so damned thirsty!

[–]PaliantBlackPill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah, just nah. You can’t compare one man taking one woman off the dating market to one guy taking MULTIPLE women off the dating market.

[–]Wide_Result9679 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Either way, there's some women taken off the dating marketplace.

[–]Silver_Took32 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Why would polyamory create more incels?

You do realize that it’s not just “two women dating a man,” right?

There are a variety of styles of polyamory. It’s often a man married to a man and dating other men. It’s two women in a committed relationship independently dating other women. It’s a man and a woman who are married who separately date other men and women. It’s a committed triad of two men and a nonbinary person. It’s a woman who is dating a man and a woman. It’s solo poly where the person chooses not to have a nesting partner and date several people without committing to monogamy, marriage, or living together.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You do realize that it’s not just “two women dating a man,” right?

True, point taken. But for a straight up hetero man, all of those arrangements are dystopian for different reasons.

[–]PaliantBlackPill -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Humans innate biology benefits polygamy over polygyny because of the opportunity costs of a woman getting pregnant.

[–]Silver_Took32 -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s some dumbass Evo psych shit.

[–]PaliantBlackPill -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Then why would cults or religions practice polygamy and not polygyny? They don’t believe in evolution.

[–]ManWazoA poly Chad -2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If theres one incel and 100 monogamous married women the incel can date 0 person. If theres 1 incel and 100 polyamorous women, the incel can date 100 person. So you think having more dating opportunity creates more incel?

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

If theres one incel and 100 monogamous married women the incel can date 0 person.

How did you come to that crazy math?

[–]ManWazoA poly Chad -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I used a tool that was neglected by op: logic!

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That ain't logic you used, son.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So what you want?More open relationship lile woman accepting prosmicious life or sharing man to decrease incel?

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The interesting thing here isn’t that the husband wanted it. It’s that the wife allowed it.

He’s following a genetic level sexual imperative. She’s the female variant of a cuck.

[–]BumblingBeta 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Like someone else said, it was already like this with women sharing Chads. It's just getting worse and more and more open and accepted now.

That's why I asked about visiting different countries. At least you can go and live this kind of life as a man in other countries, if you can't get it in western countries.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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