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What are your thoughts on the blackpill?

October 7, 2022
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Title What are your thoughts on the blackpill?
Author MasonSub4
Upvotes 4
Comments 20
Date October 7, 2022 8:13 PM UTC (1 month ago)
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[–]platinirismsBlackPill 5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

100% true, any study that has focused on why dates succeed or why women choose a man always comes down to one major reason, their physical attractiveness.

Has anybody actually read any studies that state otherwise? That looks had little effect, or that personality trumped physical attractiveness in dating?

My own personal anecdotal experience perfectly fits into the Blackpill too, I’ve still yet to meet an ugly dude who pulls women, I’ve witnessed a “Chad” pull women by simply existing. I used to be invisible until after I got attractive. All evidence leads to the same conclusion.

[–]RedditsOlderBrah 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

the only studies i've seen where physical attractiveness has been observed as the dominant factor of attraction has been from OLD and speed dating tests. OLD is literally just photos of people. speed dating you have essentially no time for any other trait to create attraction.

if i went and got you evidence, what would it take to change your mind?

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

There’s studies on 1 hour long coffee dates, OLD, speed dating, women’s preference for height & muscle, getting women and their mums to decide who she should date out of the profiles shown, simple studies on what men & women found attractive (for women, it was physical attractiveness and interest in sports), studies that show a correlation between a woman’s happiness in relationship and their relationship height gap, there’s even studies that show a correlation for a woman’s willing to flirt with other men and break up with their partner just by measuring how much more attractive the woman is compared to the man.

I mean hell, you don’t even need a study, there’s sperm donors that refuse 5’7 men or shorter for the very simple fact that women who choose donors do not want short kids despite 5’7 being the global average height.

The only studies I’ve read that showed personality played a role is when people are already inside a long term relationships or married, there’s no evidence to suggest it plays any role in the dating scene itself.

I’d need studies that show how physical attractiveness has little effect when it came to attracting and dating women.

I’d need studies that clearly shows how personality played a strong role in attracting and dating women, if there’s any evidence for this please show me.

[–]RedditsOlderBrah 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

1 hour long coffee dates

this is still not a long time, but it's the only one in the list which isn't just objectively looks with nothing else to go on. so link away, i'd love to read it.

studies that show a correlation between a woman’s happiness in relationship and their relationship height gap, there’s even studies that show a correlation for a woman’s willing to flirt with other men and break up with their partner just by measuring how much more attractive the woman is compared to the man.

did you know studies show an almost exact correlation between US spending on science, space, and technology and the suicides by hanging, strangling, and suffocation?

there’s no evidence to suggest it plays any role in the dating scene itself.

i think i've found your problem. i can find loads of data on things women find attractive. but you think they are all lying so literally nothing that doesn't confirm your belief will be accepted.

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

This is still not a long time

This is basically every first date ever. You meet and chat at a coffee shop for a bit then decide if you want to end the date there or go and do something else like bowling or mini-golf or something.

science, technology, and strangulation

Lmao the ol’ “Causation does not equal Correlation” comeback, nice.

I can find lots of data on things women find attractive

Then please, send them. I’m not stopping you. Preferably peer reviewed studies please. Not random comments on Reddit.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd say money and status are major factors as well, but physical attractiveness is what generates the initial attention. Physical attractiveness though? That's made up of a LOT of things.

FWIW I used to know an ugly dude (and I mean: bucket-of-smashed-crabs ugly, with ginger hair, wonky teeth and eyes like two piss-holes in the snow) who would pull women all the time. Literally every night he went out. He wasn't in shape - although he wasn't skinny. He wasn't rich. Had dress sense that would make Jeremy Clarkson look like a runway model. Had no status to speak of. Wasn't particularly witty. Sounded like Sloth of Goonies fame when he spoke. Yes, really.

But was 6'7".

Once, I saw him see a petite, pretty girl he liked the look of on the dance floor. He walked over to her, looked down at her - she was like a deer in headlights - reached down behind her with one hand, literally picked her up with no words uttered, and walked out of the club. She seemed utterly entranced by the whole thing and was trying to get her tongue down his throat before he'd made it ten paces.

Now, bear in mind that those of us who are of average height and average looks - ie, the most numerous - would never in a million years have gotten away with that. We have to cultivate game, go to the gym, dress up nicely etc etc in order to catch female attention. Life is not easy.

Then, take a further step and imagine that you have been cursed by the genetic lottery. You are below average looks and height. Socially awkward. What have you got to do for any female attention at all?

It's the fact that these guys - the 1/2/3's - have zero hope of getting any poon, ever, that generates anger and resentment in them. That's how incels are born. That's where blackpill as we understand it now resides.

Oh, and the female equivalents? the 1/2/3's? They'd never have a problem getting sex. It's just not with the man they want. That adds to the incel resentment.

[–]Holiday-Reach-8948 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve actually read where scent plays a part of attractiveness… would that count though in terms of what you’re talking about it? When I say scent, I think they were referring to one’s natural scent (vs cologne or perfume - though, I would imagine that could be a contributing factor as well).

For example, let’s say you see a model on Insta but when you meet her in person, she smells like fish (the gross kind). Are you still interested? Regardless, I wonder if the sane is true for women… let’s say she see a hot guy (insert place) but as she approaches him, his cologne is overwhelming or better yet, he has terrible BO. Thoughts?

[–]SolidPuzzleheaded984 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Blackpill is super accurate and truth.

It’s only annoying due to the extremists.

But yes Blackpill has the most evidence and everyone knows looks matter the most.

[–]SmarmyPapsmears 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It has a lot of truths but also I hate fatalism so usually blackpillers annoy me

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

accurate yet overly pessimistic

[–]SlapThatSillyWillyBlackPill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's brutal but true.

[–]FishTank34 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s over

[–]MasonSub4BlackPill[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How can it be ovER if it nevER even began?

[–]kokorwqac 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

ER was a volcel

[–]BlackPillPusher 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's way different today from what is was originally meant to be, lots of nuance, ask me if you need any details

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's hard determinism in action.

[–]boomershack 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh boy

I'm racist against ugly people.

I love God and would do anything he says. But I really don't wanna be friends with ugly people.

Some of y'all are cool but I do not like most ugly people.

And ugly people don't like attractive people!

It's not a gendered thing.

[–]MasonSub4BlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah ugly people are so rude and inconsiderate, they have absolutely no personality. Just don't be ugly bro, all good looking people are good people look at Jeremy meeks, Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez these were good people. If you look like Danny Devito you deserve to end up in hell for being ugly.
In life you should always strive to be a good person that means don't be ugly.
Just don't be ugly bro.

[–]boomershack 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Na, some of them are cool.

[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's true in the sense that how physically attractive you are will ultimately determine your ability to attract partners but it's false in the sense that you can't improve your attractiveness by working out and changing your style.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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