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Why a man’s life is worth less than a womans and why feminism is a crime against humanity!!!

August 9, 2022
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In nature way back when life was fragile and life expectancy was up to 30 years of age one man can impregnate several women. So if you have 5 men and 5 women equally no problem even if the rest of the men are killed leaving only one man alive the species can still reproduce. But if we reverse the roles and there are 5 men to less than 5 women, there is a lesser chance of the species to survive. It also would breed competition amongst the men for the women, maybe even leading into bloodshed. Even in war, men are targeted for termination while women are spared from termination, because of their ability to reproduce. Women already have more rights over men on this issue. The feminist movement was to get more rights and power over men. Because men and women are not created equally they cannot have equal rights. It is an unspoken wisdom that is true even if not politically correct.

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Title Why a man’s life is worth less than a womans and why feminism is a crime against humanity!!!
Author gilamonster69
Upvotes 4
Comments 45
Date August 9, 2022 9:30 AM UTC (4 months ago)
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[–]MasonSub4BlackPill 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

scarcity =/= value.
It's about supply and demand.

A human with no defects and and good genetics is worth a lot more than those who have.

So let me put it into perspective, An attractive woman is "worth" more than an unattractive woman, If you see how guys treat ugly woman, you would understand my perspective here. Usually an unattractive woman is treated quite badly, compared to even unattractive men, because unattractive men have more labor value.

Since attractive people are more scarce they are valued more.

The analogy of humans being 5 men 5 woman is almost an impossibility, there will always be millions of us, so a woman's value is substantially lowered because of it, but if we were ever to end up in that situation, I would argue that the value of the men are actually more important because of labor, we could build a new society more quickly with men working than with woman, leaving them as a commodity in that situation, because their only value at that point is breeding machines

[–]gilamonster69[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There is no such thing as an ugly woman. Only lazy women.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn

[–]EulenWatcher 10 points11 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

There are biological differences between men and women, sure, but why do you think they can't have equal rights? And how this inequality should be practiced in your view?

[–]gilamonster69[S] 0 points1 point  (27 children) | Copy Link

Equal rights come with equal responsibility. Because man and women were not created equally they can’t have the same matching rights. Get rid of no fault divorce. In fact penalise divorce and create a culture that frowns upon it. Get rid of “risk” free sex. Slowly ween society off contraceptives.

[–]Drive-By-CuckersWhitePill 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Idk I feel like giving more responsibility to people who are struggling financially is generally a bad idea. Most people in their 20’s cannot support families…

I feel like everyone exists the way they exist and there’s no reason to try to equalize the playing field. Some people are really smart and some people are really stupid. Some people are attractive and some people aren’t. Some people are men some are women. You just have to play the cards you were dealt in life rather than changing the rules of the game

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

We can make it easier for families to raise babies with social safety nets. Why can't we change the game is it because you think it's impossible or that it's morally incorrect to change the game. For example I have generalized anxiety disorder which makes it harder for me to meet girls irl and I have hard time finding a therapist, so what would benefit me is making therapy more affordable and available to as much people as possible.

[–]Drive-By-CuckersWhitePill 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I have gad too then I went to college and now I have gad and a poly substance abuse problem

Making therapy more available is a great idea but that’s a positive change to society (adding something) which is a lot easier than a negative change (taking something away) in simple terms, prohibition doesn’t work. If you ban drugs, people do other drugs.

If you ban contraception like that guy talked about, people will still have sex when they can’t support a child, the only difference is the child will actually have to be born to a shitty parent rather than getting sterilized by an iud or getting caught in a condom before it’s even in their body

[–]Slyfer_Seven 4 points5 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

So women should have more rights, or less rights because they have the responsibility of continuing the human race? Or just different rights? What does the correlation of rights and responsibility look like here?

[–]gilamonster69[S] -2 points-1 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Not all rights are the same, the man has the responsibility of protecting the women and children over his own life, ever heard the term “women and first”, the woman has the right to run the household but with council from the man. The man being the leader of the family, his decisions come first the woman has to listen to the man and work with him.

[–]Slyfer_Seven 3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

But women are more important, per your own admission, so shouldn't they be leading? We've advanced far past the need for biological strength in everyday protection, but we haven't advanced past the need for women to have children...

Seems like feminists followed the same logic as you, that people shouldn't have equal rights or whatever, but arrived at the more objective conclusion that men shouldn't really be in charge of, or leading anything, seeing how they aren't really important anymore

[–]EulenWatcher -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

the term “women and first”

Which wasn't really practiced and Titanic was the exception to the rule. Just like chivalry was never a reality.

[–]mcove97NeutralPill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah no sorry I'm a childfree woman. I'm not going off contraceptives. You forget that there's people like me, both men and women who love sex and who hates children.

[–]Peacesquad 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh

[–]EulenWatcher 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men and women bear equal responsibilities these days with the exception for the draft. And I think it would be easier to make the draft non-gendered rather than gendering everything else.

What you suggest isn't about the biological difference or different rights, it's more about controlling both men and women's reproductive choices.

[–]Marzipan-Happy -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Contraceptives give women control over their bodies, and everyone deserves the right to bodily autonomy.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

On this one… take my upvote.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it is not worth less tbh, you just need to understand there are better things to live for than poon

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Whenever someone say Man's life is worth less than woman's.I always roll my eyes

[–]EnteFetz -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why? That is just how it has been in almost all of human history. Average or below average men have always been disposable and only a few men on the top were irreplaceable, while all fertile women have intrinsic value.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but they can improve. For women, her value only lasts for 10 years.Those fertile turn to infertilite. Woman become more aware of their predicament but they still have to abide by the rules of dating, whereas men have many options for going their own way. Even making the best of a bad situation would be fine but men can do a lot more with a lot less, whereas women really don't have anything, after they hit the wall and are single and keep existing as useless creatures. It is woman's nature to be never satisfied even if she finds something better,she will find way to complain.They don't like to take responsibility and bear consequences while man are more accepting.

[–]IHateNormis 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

If there were 5 females and 5 men, all 5 females would only reproduce with the most attractive man. The 4 remaining men would get pissed off and kill everyone else

[–]gilamonster69[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

But, because of the environmental circumstances they wouldn’t have a choice would they. But also due to the biological circumstances the 5 men would fight with each other driven by the need to reproduce more offspring and jealousy.

[–]IHateNormis 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You are assuming that they all have an interest in continuing the species. If one man is getting all the sex, the other 4 wouldn’t care about continuing the species (species wouldn’t continue anyways due to lack of genetic diversity with only one male reproducing). They would get jealous and just kill everyone else. This is essentially one of the reasons the family structure was invented

[–]gilamonster69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am assuming that because we are driven by our biology. The reptilian brain still drives our primal nature no matter how you try to square the circle. Unfortunately In this modern age everything has been turned upside down men are becoming limp wristed pussies. We have been whipped into submission because we didn’t say no to the feminist back in the day.i know what i say is not politically correct and may hurt some. But men were originally meant to be protectors of their families.

[–]Drive-By-CuckersWhitePill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think that would be the case…

In reality they’d probably just all be fucking each other and be polygamous with the exception of those who sickly and frail or otherwise severely disadvantaged

Our closest relatives as humans are chimps and bonobos

Chimps typically have high competition between males, but multiple males typically mate with each female (sometimes males will mate-guard a specific female, and occasionally pair bonding occurs, but you never see harems like what you are talking about in chimp communities) the only people left out are older female chimps and social outcast male chimps who for one reason or another are unable to live in close proximity to other chimps and don’t exhibit much social with chimps of either sex)

In bonobo communities everyone fucks everyone, they’re peaceful creatures and they basically just fuck all day

[–]Puzzleheaded_Luck_92 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because of the media simple as that, also why are people afraid of men is the real question. Can't tell you how many times I go places and women act all cautious or afraid of me

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I understand where you are coming from, because I don't like feminism because I think they support hook up culture and have anti-romantic narrative but I acknowledge that not all feminists are like this.

I met sex negative feminist and pro romantic feminist on reddit and discord and I do agree with their premises over the mainstream and sex positive feminist. One of them linked articles to feminist work shops which teach people healthy relationship skills. I met some sex negative feminist who hate hook up culture and love romance. Feminism isn't about equal rights it's about protecting the health and well being of women and getting the needs of women met. Women do have it harder than men in some regards right, it's not about denying men's suffering but acknowledging that women suffer in a specific way that's different from men. I don't think I can change your core beliefs about feminism but I do want to encourage you to challenge them and hear out women past the annoying crowd.

For me what helped develop empathy for women was listening to their struggles and watching movies like the silent voice and ride your wave. I also read post in foreveralone subreddit about women scared of being single forever. But I guess things really worked because I was already empathetic some what in begining. Maybe you can try volunteering in a women's shelter and get to know some people there I think that is a good starting point.

I won't lie everytime I hear feminism I cringe and associate it with anti romance but I try my best to see past that. I hope you took what you can from this comment 😊

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism isn't about equal rights it's about protecting the health and well being of women and getting the needs of women met.

it is about getting women's desires (!= needs) met

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

After thinking about your post and reading the comments, I think we as a society have inflated the word rights with privileges. I'm guilty of this too.

I agree with your premise, but I think the better argument would be to switch the words rights with privileges.

Rights would be like, freedom of speech.

Privilege would be stuff like abortion. Women like to inflate the word and call abortion a women's right. No. Murdering is not a right. Cause your right to do something should not infringe on the right of another, aka the baby's right to live.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i think abortion makes for a good way to let people that make bad parents self select out of the gene pool

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lot of this is a result of years of living in the wild where without protection women and weak men would wind up as animal shit on the prairie.

[–]MarBitt 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

No human being is equal to another human being. Nevertheless, people can have roughly the same rights. Why divide it into only men and women? You can put the dividing line anywhere - for example according to IQ level, education, wealth, quality of parenting, the country you live in...

[–]gilamonster69[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

and you made your point. But, the fact remains. Yes, we can have “roughly” the same rights. But with equal rights comes equal responsibility. A woman cannot and should not shoulder the burdened responsibility of a man. She is placed in her unnatural environment. Look at men “identifying” as women competing in women’s sport. The fact that there is some discrimination is good.

[–]MarBitt 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

with equal rights comes equal responsibility

Not necessarily. With power comes responsibility. With responsibility must come power.

For example. Two people both have the right to vote and freedom of speech. Do they have the same responsibility for the outcome of the election? Just in theory. In practice, one of them may have a much greater ability to influence. He may be able to convince thousands or millions of people how to vote. Or he can run for president. While the other has the right to vote, but he is not able to convince anyone else and moreover, he himself is easily influenced.

So, in practice, your responsibility does not only come from rights, but from real abilities and possibilities. Both men and women can have the right to free medical care during childbirth. But logically, women are more likely to use that right, because they also have the real ability to give birth.

So man and woman can have equal or roughly the same rights. But that does not mean that they will be able to use those rights in the same way. And responsibility is not only defined by rights, but rather by real power and abilities in the given area.

[–]Incellius_Maximus -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women didn't have it that good back then either; as a woman you were basically the slave of men, they could raid your village, kill the males and take you with them. Then they would impregnate you over and over, which had a high risk associated with it, not to mention that half the children would die before the age of five. It was probably better to be a man and just get killed in battle.

[–]Marzipan-Happy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, how do you ensure a population dissappears? Breed them out, and the women pay for it.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) -1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

inbreeding

women don't want kids and many of them are unable to have them

massive population in modern times

[–]gilamonster69[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Massive population is bs. Women don’t want kids because of the selfish mentality.

[–]Drive-By-CuckersWhitePill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women don’t want kids because they don’t have houses and husbands and they don’t have houses because the economy is in shambles and they don’t have husbands because of a massive artificially created cultural divide that is turning young men into misogynistic and often racist assholes who can’t think for themselves while turning young women and some young men into whiney liberals who can’t think for themselves

If you wanted to fix the dating crisis you’d have to restructure society in a way that takes power from the media, large corporations, congress, and religious influences and invests it in uplifting the working class

Which is something that neither the left nor the right cares about since politicians and the media are playing everyone against each other

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Do you want to have kids?

[–]gilamonster69[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Why not?

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Okay.Just asking

[–]Ihatereeddiitt -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Please don't.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it doesn't matter why they dont want kids, the point is they're not having them and that makes them "worthless" by this line of logic.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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