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Why are guys on incels is or looksmaxx so mean to unnattractive women?

puddingdesperation
December 4, 2022
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They complain about girls with ugly faces, heavier women, hairy women, ethnic or darker skinned women there all the time with all kinds of insults and slurs, implying they are too gross to be looked at, yet we are supposed to believe only unnattractive guys get it bad? Can you guys name a female cebtric forum where they are mean specifically towards ugly men, hairy men or ethnic-men? I saw tons of manhatred yes but not those specifically targeting a group of men that look a certain way.

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Title Why are guys on incels is or looksmaxx so mean to unnattractive women?
Author puddingdesperation
Upvotes 9
Comments 89
Date December 4, 2022 1:47 PM UTC (3 months ago)
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[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

They are bitter that their looksmatches who are ugly and hairy can just download tinder and order a boyfriend like pizza meanwhile they have to spend $100k on Dr Barry Eppley surgeries to get a match with a 300 lbs feminist who has been dealing with STDs since she was 15 :(

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Many of them are stacy only or white pussy only

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

No, they are not lol. What's wrong with wanting a white girlfriend anyway?

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Because they are shitskins complaining about jbw but hypocritically feel entitled to cumskin pussy

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure most of them are okay with dating in their race

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

they act like dark skinned females are gross regardless, %99 of incels are cumskin worshippers

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yes, white people are preferred among all the races, that's a fact. But those guys have no pussy at all, so what's problem with what they jerking off to?

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

The fact they are complaining about not being liked because of being ethnic then also ignoring any girl that isn't white, white-passing or maybe asian is hypocritical and entitled. I don't have a problem at allif a regular guy fucks with or prefers whites if he's not that obnoxious.

Maybe east asian guys have a legit complaint about white dudes having higher smv than them, but for every other ethnicity, the males are more white worshipping

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

The fact they are complaining about not being liked

All I saw there is selfloathing, not complaining.

ignoring any girl that isn't white, white-passing or maybe asian

What do you mean "ignoring"? Like they've been approached by girls at all?

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

They insult them for being ugly, disgusting and ''masculine' ', keep in mind a lot of those guys aren't even white or asian,(not that these insults would be acceptable coming from white dudes either) how do you expect me to empathize with dudes like this?

[–]Borderline-Poptart 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a white woman, I need you to know that so many white dudes fetishize "foreign" women for their features...

[–]BoogersAndSugar 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

^^ THIS is your answer, OP. They're bitter that the girls in their own league (ugly, fat, disabled, etc) still reject them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

God tier comment. You’re a wordsmith my friend.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 9 points10 points  (51 children) | Copy Link

Where they are mean specifically towards ugly men

Yes, Reddit.

All incel and male related forever alone subreddits have been purged from the site, while women get to keep thier equivalent subreddits.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

anyways no one is giving an example of anything besides ''hating incels'' but an ugly man who doesn't post on incel forums isn't someone who people care about.

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i'm getting downvoted but no good counterarguments.

[–]Spacetalks3114 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm not going to tackle your paragraph because lots of other users already did.

But for the above question, it's because it's partly projection and misinformation. They believe that women (no matter their looks) do not have to work as hard as themselves, which leads to resentment towards ugly women in particular. In a way, I'd argue it's the just worst fallacy. That the world should work in a way that makes sense. So uglier women should not have access to sex because they don't. It's unfair to them.

Also, many incels on those forums hate women in general so that could also be why.

But these types of questions are still erroneous because it pushes a narrative that only incels do this, when heaps of evidence suggest that femcel groups do the exact same thing.

Please look at both sides and recognize this isn't a man vs women issue, it's a societal vs unattractive person issue.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm rarely seeing female forums do this to an extent male forums do, sure they make fun of incels or '' pussyless'' mf' s but that isn't directly attacking appearence as much as incel forums as much as users here get delusional about it. Am i saying it never happens? No, it just happens a lot less.

[–]Spacetalks3114 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

To play the devils advocate a little, I'd argue that it's probably equal. Except that many femcel forums are masked as radfem forums and promote hate under the guise of progressiveness.

Because on forums like inceltear and fds, a lot of them do this very tactic. While not openingly sporting the label as a femcel, they sure promote their beliefs.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying radfems or femcels aren't cancerous, actually i find all forms of feminism aimless and unnecessary. However they usually attack either all kinds of men or incels not something like ''ugly men' or '' incel moids'' '' '' x kinds of men'' or ' 'shitskin men' '

Again, i' m not defending radfems, just saying they technically aren't directly attacking physical traits as much as incel forums do, which is confusing since i'm supposed to believe women hate ugly men.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

usually attack either all kinds of men

Oh now that's much more noble... um... NOT

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Again i'm not defending them, it's just that they aren't describing physical appearence.

[–]Eyesofmalice 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

As an incel I can’t defend this. There is a lot of hate thrown at women for things they can’t control while more interesting and nuanced discussions are lost in the turmoil.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

And i can't really defend radfems or femcels hating on men everyday while defending degenerate women either, however it's still true they attack physical traits less than incels.

[–]Eyesofmalice 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That I don’t know, I’d have to have figures. I only lament that incel spaces were co-opted by right wingers and that genuine discussions about the gap left by patriarchy were silenced by reactonary right wing rethoric

[–]Rook_Cross 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

They're Narcissists and entitled and not getting what they think they're deserving of - a super hot girlfriend. No, it's not because (they assume) women are getting, or can get a lot of dates at the snap of a finger. It may also be because they're angry about their own looks and taking it out on others. but there are some studies on incels, the hardcore kind, and they do have real problems with personality defects like narcissism. And if you've ever hurt a narcissist, you know the kind of rage they can fly into. I think you're seeing mini outbursts. They're "injured" by not having the girl they want and lashing out on the internet. There's indeed, something wrong with them to an extreme.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

right, but you can't have nuanced discussions on this without someone telling you ''muh ugly women can just get dick on tinder'' while ignoring everything else wrong with the behaviour of those on incels is or looksmaxx org.

and no, i'm not even defending feminists/femcels, i think they are actually a leading cause of the violent misogyny and fetishism on the younger population and are also entitled narcies, however criticizing incels mean you are a radfem in this sub full of dudes.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // your genetics = your fate 0 points1 point  (30 children) | Copy Link

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[–]puddingdesperation[S] 3 points4 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

They complain about incels not men that look a certain way or are of a certain phenotype

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // your genetics = your fate 0 points1 point  (21 children) | Copy Link

they call them creepy and incel, "bitchless" etc based on those traits

women are less direct than men in that sense and calling them creeps and incels(with the stigma attached) gives plausible deniability

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 1 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

They call them incel not ''subhuman' '' 'landwhale' '' 'sheboon' '' '' pajeeta''' ''hambeast' '' 'shitskin' '

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // your genetics = your fate 5 points6 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

you forgot scrote

creep

neckbeard

virgin

besides, incel in their mind is the same thing as all of these. point is, the incels they make it clear they're insulting your looks, much as i dislike some of these epithets you mentioned. the women mix it up a bit by pretending you really deserved it by turning it into a moral trait (and this allows them to feel like good people.)

welcome to the blackpill.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

None of those are generally directly describing physical features

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // your genetics = your fate 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

they refer to your ability to get women which depends on your physical genetic features (and scrote refers to testicles), so we are in agreement.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Again, males are directly targeting ugly or darker skinned females while females are talking about incel forum posters that could theoretically look like anything

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // your genetics = your fate 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

well, context matters too.

these women tend to often hate their own race's men and view them as inferior. a lot of the stuff i've heard from curry, noodle and sand women about their respective races' men sounds straight out of stormfront. so it's been my understanding that it's their way of coping by "getting back" at them (not that i'd do it myself). if you've seen a certain childfree person in canada on ppd, you'll know what i mean.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

They bash sheboons more than noodles, ugly noodles and ugly cumskins are worshipped

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // your genetics = your fate 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

(2) scrote refers to testicles.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

That paragraph nails it so well.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That paragraph still describes behaviour instead of looks

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

That paragraph still describes behaviour instead of looks, as much as you guys are in denial of everything that doesn't make out incels to be poor innocent babies.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // your genetics = your fate 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

i dont pretend they are victims and i dont make excuses for their racism only explain what might motivate it

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Most of them worship asian women far more than any other ethnic, even though asian women are THE ONLY ones that promote the jbw shit, they don't make sense by their own logic, it's lookism

Again you are ignoring a lot of stuff because you aren't actually reading these forums, some asian guy i think posted his latina gf on this forum and they called her ''ugly shitskin goblina' '

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // your genetics = your fate 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

im not ignoring anything i just told you i dont defend this behavior and i dont like going on those forums myself

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That paragraph still describes behaviour instead of looks, as much as you guys are in denial of everything that doesn't make out incels to be poor innocent babies.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // your genetics = your fate 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

take a gander at this

[–]puddingdesperation[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

only libs do this

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

#KillAllMen came from those areas.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Killallmen is still not describing physical appearence..

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

No, it's all men, period. Like, it doesn't matter what you do in life, they want you dead regardless. That's infinitely WORSE than making fun of men of a certain group!

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

you're missing my point, i'm not even defending femcels or feminists.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, you're focusing on people who hate a certain group of men (incels) when there's bigger problems than that.

[–]None0fYour8usiness 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

You're going to the place that breeds mass shooters and wonder why they are mean?

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

According to this forum though, incels are supposed to be indiscriminatory poor babies, and that women care about looks, status or race far more supposedly,this is why i'm trying to expose a lot of this stuff. This isn't a defense of radfems/femcels either

[–]None0fYour8usiness 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean women care about status and looks drastically more than men do.

But incels absolutely aren't indiscriminatory. Though most of them aren't as vile as the ones on the incelsis forum.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Looksmaxx is like that too

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah most incels are similar, just less exeggrated

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Fucking hypocrites, those dudes. There really ain't any more to say about that.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

World is filled with hypocrisy that i know of. That being said how come this forum always pretends women care more about looks, status or race when incels is or looksmaxx org speaks for itself?

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Well because you got "my 600lb girlfriend" and even Lena Dunham is married. Women may not be WORSE than men but the "men only care about looks" narrative that women (and delusional Redpill men) propagate is absolute horseshit. Stupidity abounds on both sides.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

my dad is also fat, you'r still missing my oint.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

All I said is stupidity abounds on both sides. How in the world is that even an inch away from your point?

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

my point is that, incel or male only forums focused almost solely on physical traits, while female ones didn't

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why is that?

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bah, who cares what psychos focus on.

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Because they don't like to lie to people? Ethnic/darkskinned can be very beautiful, that's not even a factor. Also, you can affect your body mass.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying ethnic can't be pretty, however %99 of incels only like white or asian girls then complain about being ethnic

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

That means I talk only with 1% of incels that are ok with their looksmatch.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Read incel forums, do you honestly think they aren't sexually racist at all?

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do they have preferences that are shifted to light skin/light eyes? Yes, sure, like most people at this planet.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Light skin preference is MUCH more pronounced in men than women, even though you have the ''shitskin' ' incels bitching about white dudes, that is what i want to highlight

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