~ archived since 2018 ~

Why are "nice guys" always depicted as fat and ugly?

March 12, 2023

Literally every single depiction of someone drawing a "nice guy" that i've seen is a fat, neckbearded, ugly dude with a fedora or some other variation of this. The clipart of fat ugly dudes is plastered all over r/niceguys. Can attractive men not be "nice guys" as well? Have you ever encountered the entitlement and narcissism of a frat boy on a college campus? Did you know a woman has the highest chance of encountering a sexual predator at a college frat party? Why aren't tall, attractive frat boys depicted so negatively when they also harass women? Do you get a pass if you're attractive?

TheRedArchive is an archive of Red Pill content, including various subreddits and blogs. This post has been archived from the subreddit /r/AllPillDebate.

/r/AllPillDebate archive

Download the post

Want to save the post for offline use on your device? Choose one of the download options below:

Post Information
Red Pill terms in post

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you're ugly and act like a "nice guy", you are seen as being creepy, narcissistic, arrogant, and off-putting.

When you're Chad and act like a "nice guy", you are seen as being confident, outgoing, gregarious, and sociable.

So in other words, what looks good on Chad don't look good on us.

[–]Dreaminofthepasts 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Chad Only

[–]reeeeadnendn 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s a scapegoat that quietly affirms the blackpill. People use it to propagate those who are like that must be creepy and have some innate problem that can be changed, which would support the blue pill. Unfortunately for them, if Chad says your typical /r/niceguys shit women would be all over him and sexually please him.

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Attractive man can be asshole, society allows it for him. Being "nice guy" is last chance to get some positive attention from female.

[–]stophatingmybodyLambdaPill 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because "looks don't matter", until they do. When looks do matter is when you want to make fun of someone. Body shaming isn't body shaming if you're doing it to people you don't like.

[–]warramite 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just world fallacy + halo effect..

If she's approached by a 6' ripped and sharp jawline = morally good "he's got a heart of gold, he follows his heart"

5'2 indian janitor "some creep just asked me for my number, should I call the police?"

[–]Pillan24 11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is something that is quite glaring. In all nice guy or neckbeard art, the guy portrayed always happens to be ugly

[–]tayrod_432[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It really makes you think if women can see ugly guys as anything more than just manipulative or evil. A "nice guy" can not be hot they have to be ugly because hot guys are good in every way and ugly guys are evil in every way in their minds

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Halo/horns effect.

[–]facingitall 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is kind of cope tbh. I skimmed through that subreddit just now and the amount of fat posts aren't THAT much. Their stereotype seems to be neckbeard and fedora.

I think it's more the case that ugly guys are more likely to be frustrated and end up in these situations, if anything. More of a chicken and egg scenario.

I will say that it's hard to roast an attractive guy like this because you can't really say much besides saying he's mentally ill. He will still always have that over you though.

[–]rogueamazondrone 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you get a pass if you're attractive?

yes, humans are a shallow species, but why do so many posts on here state the obvious? it feels like circle jerking sometimes.

[–]tayrod_432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is there a lot of posts about the importance of looks on a sub with many members that have been ridiculed, ostracized, and gaslit about their sexual attractiveness? Why are we talking about food on this sub about starvation? Why are we talking about racism on this sub about hate crimes? Why are we talking about death on this sub for cancer? What a stupid fucking question

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW janitor // in genes we trust 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

because those comics are theodicies.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link


[–]DeepHouseDJ007 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I’m a fraternity member. I lived in my chapter house the whole time I was in college and pretty much everyone I associated with was in the Greek system and I can tell you that the “harassment” thing is largely not true; not only do most fraternity members have good social skills and are in good physical shape, which makes most of them prone to being successful with women, but we’re also constantly around sorority girls: when we’re not having mixers and parties a few times a week we’re constantly at each other’s houses since all fraternities and sororities usually have their houses right next to each other’s. Also, fraternity members have higher GPAs than the average non-Greek college student. So don’t believe the stupid stereotypes.

[–]tayrod_432[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

There are stats that back up that a college fraternity party is the most likely place a woman will be raped, sexually assaulted, or harassed though

[–]DeepHouseDJ007 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Stats? As in plural? If there’s mutisme stats that support that I’d love to see them because as someone who’s lived that life for almost five years straight I call BS.

[–]tayrod_432[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]DeepHouseDJ007 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This doesn’t say that women are the most likely to be assaulted at fraternity parties like you said, this is an article from one newspaper that cites ONE outdated study from 2005 (18 years ago).

Nowadays fraternity houses have to be sanctioned and insured by their national fraternity headquarters, and after some of the sexual assault and hazing incidents of the late 90s and early 2000s fraternity members have to be very careful of what they do under their roof or they can risk the whole chapter being closed down. People who have never been in the Greek system have a certain image of fraternity and sorority life, and that image is rarely accurate.

[–]Last-Post2085BlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because when an attractive tall guy does it, he's just being fun. When an ugly short guy does it he's a 'nice guy'

[–]ManWazoA short king with high ncount -3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because chad dont act as "nice guys". They dont go on reddit complain about their lack of sex while objectifying women. The hypocrisy of "nice guys" is what people mock, not their look.

[–]tayrod_432[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have met MANY men that do well with women that get aggressive and combative with a woman if she rejects him. Why do you think the highest amounts of reported sexual assaults and harassments happen on college campuses at fraternity parties? They are full of attractive, sexually successful men that behave like "nice guys" they just have the looks to get away with it

[–]crypto_druid -3 points-2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Why do you care about drawings?

of course caricatures are going to be exaggerated and one dimensional , it’s what makes them caricatures.

instead of trying to figure out why other people do what they do, maybe try to figure yourself out, like why are you so fragile that a cartoon triggers you. Being a nice guy isn’t a religion like Islam, nice guys aren’t the holy prophet that has to be defended

[–]tayrod_432[S] 2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

chill the fuck out I was just making a post on a discussion based forum for a topic that interests me. I've got myself figured out already so miss me with that bullshit

[–]crypto_druid -1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like you got yourself all figured out, crying about cartoons of nice guys is exactly what people who got themselves figured out do

[–]tayrod_432[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

As if someone like yourself is in a position to determine if someone has it figured out or not lol

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am, it’s why I agreed, you got this mr nice guy

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps you could teach me

[–]tayrod_432[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm not the one accusing random people on the internet that they don't have it figured out so maybe a go getter philosopher like yourself could teach me your skills

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t have it all figured out, never claimed to, but you did.

So, you would need to be the teacher in this case.

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you do “how to have it all figured out” classes?.

[–]tayrod_432[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No man that has to be you right? Considering how you've bounced from sub to sub of lonely, depressed men who have nothing with your cute little posts of accusing and generalizing. I mean Hell you made a post on this very sub lecturing people on blaming others for their problems so clearly a man this confident in himself must have quite a list of achievements and qualifications to teach the class instead. It seems you already think of yourself as an armchair therapist anyways

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I gave you an upvote for your wit. I genuinely enjoyed that response.

I do have a lot of achievements, but I wouldn’t say I have it all figured out. Life is endless learning.

I don’t think I’d make a good therapist tbh, I’m too much of an asshole, I prefer tough love to being a shoulder to cry on, you’ve probably noticed.

[–]BRightIdeas025 -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel like rapemaxxing is the only way to escape the blackpill

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2023. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter